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RE: A Good Beating - 6/16/2006 11:44:36 AM   
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Wow... this is a concept that is completely foreign to me.  Why someone would want to be hit, I just don't understand.  Granted, I haven't tried it, but that's probably because I don't get it.
 
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I used to feel the same way. Even thought there was no way I could take the pain of  floggers, crops, paddles and all those fun toys. But once I slowly tried different things and different sensations they are now things I crave and need. I love floggers most of all and wear the marks made by them proudly.

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RE: A Good Beating - 6/16/2006 12:05:45 PM   
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Sometimes a good beating just makes me feel Mastered

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RE: A Good Beating - 6/16/2006 1:22:18 PM   
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There's been times where i'm in a foul mood and know that a good spanking/beating would straighten me out. Maybe it's a way to emotionally release pent up fustration and or anger that you really have no other outlet for.

Other times I just have a screaming need to be hurt during sex. Being bitten, scratched, pinched etc. I think it's a different need then the "beating me into a better mood" need though. fulfills different things in my psyche. Probably why i enjoy breath play *weg* 

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RE: A Good Beating - 6/16/2006 1:40:58 PM   
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I need a good beating right now and hopefully he will give it to me tonight. I have been out of sorts, depressed, bitchy and most of all, not feeling very submissive lately. I have cried and been hugged. We have talked and I know I'm loved and wanted. I still feel out of sorts and what I keep picturing is...me naked on my tummy and Him beating me. With his hands...the crop...the floggers...I don't even care. I want the pain..the cleansing relief...the tears...the acceptance.

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RE: A Good Beating - 6/16/2006 2:03:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slavejali

Ok..so...

A question arose for me in the Obedience thread. It was just about being beaten, whipped, caned, flogged, whatever....but just the pure action of some intense sensation being inflicted on you....in a beneficial way.

So, the scenario I'm thinking about is not a punishment scenario. This is not going to be about being punished with pain. (damnit I made a conscious decision a few weeks ago not to participate in any pain threads..now I'm starting one)...Still havent got to the subject though...as I'm writing I'm trying to actually pinpoint what I'm asking about....ugh...

When I start thinking about pain (intense sensation), my thoughts get muddled, I think I'm thinking about one thing and then it changes to something else...Example: I started thinking about this in the obedience thread when Submotive kinda quipped about being whipped re her state of mind at the time etc.....and I responded with...thats been really good for me at times....now all I want is pain my heart is palpitating and I'm feeling that rush of heat. (but thats not the subject).

Ok, taking a few minutes here...

I'm not talking about punishment...maybe cathartic beating? Yet I'm not talking about being beaten to relieve stress either....this is really hard for me to write about...its all getting............spastic. My original questions and thoughts are just tuning me into the space I get when I just purely want to be beaten and so taking me off the topic I want to address.

The topic is: Do you ever get into headspaces where a good beating just fixes things? Pure and simple. Like you dont need to pull the situation apart mentally or emotionally, trying to figure out why your feeling the way you are....or maybe you feel you do need to do that...but just if your taken in hand and beaten....it just all resolves itself and you wonder what the fuck you were thinking before anyways...the issue becomes just so unimportant like it never really existed. And you realsie, the very best remedy for what you were feeling before was just to be beaten, that raw physical contact just put things in perspective..taking us back to basics...or something.

How did I do? Did any of that make sense?

(got an appointment now...but will check in on this thread when I get back)


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RE: A Good Beating - 6/16/2006 2:15:45 PM   
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Sub-space, endorphins, loss of control only truely experienced with bondage and a good sound beating(s). All resaulting in a serious release of stress. I don't know, does that sound too girly-ish to you?

Just sometimes I get a very real hankering for the kind of beatings that come with a "punishment session". Please don't confuse my use of the term "punishment" here as the type of punishment that referrs to disciplinary or corrective in intent. For myslef punishment, in a bdsm context, has always had the meaning more along the line as "let's punish the quarterback" or "punish the slave". Meaning to try to really hurt or make the person suffer as in "a good beating". ie. To make me cry and beg her for mercy, but to only stop when she is convinced that I'm not faking it. Optionally of course to stop when the mistress has worked out her stress, and emotional issues as well.


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RE: A Good Beating - 6/16/2006 2:17:22 PM   
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I personally find the need for a good beating a great thing on both sides of the fence ... for me it helps to cleanse a bad day or frustrations I might be feeling also ... but then again my profile asks that one important question. to have her bend and allow me to vent all my frustrations to cleanse myself of all the bad things that take me out of my sorts .... well that is a much appreciated thing and usually ends up with some good things happening for her.     

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RE: A Good Beating - 6/16/2006 2:20:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MichMasochist

Sub-space, endorphins, loss of control only truely experienced with bondage and a good sound beating(s). All resaulting in a serious release of stress. I don't know, does that sound too girly-ish to you?



I love a good beating but subspace can be reached vocally too without any touch, it is amazing how the mind works, the places it can go.
 
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RE: A Good Beating - 6/16/2006 2:35:42 PM   
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Yes, jali, it did make sense and i do understand, although i am not sure i can explain it either. Sometimes i just need to be beat, to be used as LaM sees fit, to feel his power over me. I need to feel put in my place. Once in a while just laying at his feet or doing something for him will help, but then there are other times, i just want to be beat. I want HIM  to hurt me. 

i do realize when i am stressed i crave a beating worse. 
may i ask if any one else has ever felt badly for wanting/ craving that type of spanking so badly? 

, I am allowed to ask/ communicate my wants/ needs, it is up to him if he wants to give it to me BUT when i am in mood like this and need this type of spanking i feel like if i ask for it, then it has lost it's purpose


Yes Jali and LaMspeach, i too feel the need for what you both have described. It truly is almost impossible to put into words exactly what you are craving/needing at those moments. It is almost like i crave that flash fire of pain and possession.

I too have excellent communication with my owners, and can ask them both for play if I wish too, yet there are those days when you feel like your entire body is screaming at them "whip me, own me" at the top of it's lungs.

Worse yet is the frustration you feel when they do not "hear" this impalpable message, it almost makes it worse. Peach i agree asking for it sort of ruins it at that moment. Whew i am glad i am not the only one, silly that i expect them to know when i do not say anything about it, sillier still to get frustrated over it, but i do.

Lol, even now i feel like i am inadequately describing that aching burning need, those of you who experience know just what i mean.

OOpppsss, Lamspeach, i think highly of your Master, nice to meet you, i am twicehappy owned by ScooterTrash and ShiftedJewel

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RE: A Good Beating - 6/16/2006 4:17:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slavejali

Back again, thanks for the responses  You know, I still dont really know what my question was...

I can so relate to what a lot of you have been saying.


There are many reasons I will beat My slave or sub. One I enjoy it and they enjoy being used.This is My favorite kind of beating
Two as punishment as they sometimes need it to clense them from the guilt. This is NOT My favorite kind of beating but sometimes necessary
Three stress relief. For giver and receiver sometimes it just feels good to be able to let it all go.

Beatings to Me are cathartic in nature. The one that put Me out of business as a masochist was the most intense feeling of My life and I have never felt so good. Despite that a year later I have issues medically because of it at the time I needed it and something inside Me changed that day...I let go of My need to submit and embraced being dominant something I ran from for a long time.

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RE: A Good Beating - 6/16/2006 7:00:40 PM   
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Yup, it can do a bunch of things for me. It does relieve stress for me. My thing is that I'm a person that rarely cries. I was raised that a lady never makes a scene, does not cry in front of others and to keep a stiff upper lip. A good beating lets all that stuff out and I almost always end the scene by being a crying mess, which is quite cleansing.

Master does not use any of this as punishment. He believes that all of this is play and therefore it is a reward. But, then again, I'm a masochist. This is fun to me. and he doesn't wish to confuse what is fun and what is punishment.



I agree OsideGirl it's  never  used as a punishment for me either

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RE: A Good Beating - 6/16/2006 7:09:49 PM   
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Hello twicehappy,

It is a pleasure to meet you also  *smiles*  Isn't wonderful to have Owners that allow and encourage us to communicate. Perhaps, we will have other chances to talk.

It is also good to know that I'm not allone and that others have "the crazies".

"The Crazies" = Those unexplainable feelings that no matter how hard you try, you just cant explain.

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RE: A Good Beating - 6/16/2006 7:21:11 PM   
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those I call moments of fate ... either you go with it and take whatever opportunity it brings . or you miss it and regret that it may have been something you wanted all along

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RE: A Good Beating - 6/16/2006 7:26:59 PM   
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Dear slavejali, Ladies and Gentlemen;

I did post but, apparently it phased out somewhere or didn't 'catch.'

I did want to share, that in my day, there were many types or reasons for a beating.

Sensual beating - was to awaken the senses, sensories, to learn about one's body and learn to feel comfortable in your skin.  It was a means to awaken the sensual side, usually soft and relaxing.

Maintaining beating - was understood the beating that could be given without reason and or requested via protocol to be beaten by a slave and was understood, that such beating was to touch the slave in such a manner required, tailored to that slave as to provide reassurance, safety, appreciation, comformation, re-establish commitment to the D/s and or M/s role, the respect, the discipline and the control the slave needed.

Catharsis beating - is understood to cause the slave to reach the point of being able to become extremely vunerable, as to become more open and the inside walls that block the dominant to crumble, as to promote emotions and releasing of emotions, as to purge, clean the soul, to let go, to release negatives and or memories harbored within the spirit, mind and soul of the slave.  It is followed by comfort, security and healing.

Educational beating - this sort of beating is known as not to be a scene or for 'pleasure,' however the beating is an educational time, to which they are subjected to.  Expectations were known and there were no disappointments from it.

Pleasure beating - mostly for the Masters/Mistresses who just wanted to have an impromptu session/scene with a slave.  Nothing done to provoke such other than the sheer desire to enjoy a slave's body through a beating/scene.

Disciplinary beating - this beating is one that isn't pleasing to either party involved however, the adjudication of an infraction causing such is to be known and no mistake is made as to why such a beating will take place.  It is not meant to be pleasure but, so severe that it is distasteful to the slave to the point of not wishing to make a repeat of the infraction but, not cross the line into abuse.  The abuse can easily happen when anger is involved.  The 'beating' for punishment may not be immediate, as to prevent the anger emotion to override good judgment of the Master and or Mistress, as well as to mentally weigh on the slave's mind, to which knowing punishment is coming in due time, adds to the weight of the disciplinary beating.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
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RE: A Good Beating - 6/16/2006 7:51:22 PM   
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I'm really enjoying this thread  Thanks for sharing everyone~

LadyHugs: thats really true,  there are all kinds of beatings.

LaMspeach: ""The Crazies" = Those unexplainable feelings that no matter how hard you try, you just cant explain." Loved that.

OsideGirl: "he doesn't wish to confuse what is fun and what is punishment."  That's pretty much Masters philosophy too

scratchingpost: "The one that put Me out of business as a masochist was the most intense feeling of My life and I have never felt so good." I found that an interesting statement, care to expand?

twicehappy: "Worse yet is the frustration you feel when they do not "hear" this impalpable message, it almost makes it worse." Can really relate to that at times...I think I'm slowly learning how to handle that.

Tamerofwild: "for me it helps to cleanse a bad day or frustrations I might be feeling also"....its such a good feeling to have your Masters frustrations taken out on you.....don't know about anyone else but it makes me feel so useful

MichMasochist: " but to only stop when she is convinced that I'm not faking it.".. thats an interesting thing to say. I can relate to the sometimes too, like sometimes I will be saying ouch or acting hurt or whatever when really I'm not hurting at all....I'm not even really connecting properly with the whole scenario....and there is a bridge I cross..where it becomes real. Doesnt happen a lot, but I have experienced it.

akisha: ""beating me into a better mood" ...a beating is great for a change in perspective. I cant say that I experience bad moods, I'm a pretty kinda even temperamented person....but I can relate to the change in perspective part which is probably associated with the same thing you're saying.

peterk: "Sometimes a good beating just makes me feel Mastered " - damn right
















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RE: A Good Beating - 6/16/2006 8:15:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tamerofwild1s

those I call moments of fate ... either you go with it and take whatever opportunity it brings . or you miss it and regret that it may have been something you wanted all along


Tamerofwild1s,
You have commented twice on my post and i dont understand either one of them. Perhaps it is because my Master and you had words on another thread. So please read my post carefuly before you  comment. They weren't about fate, missed opportunities or lack of communication. They were simply about feelings and a need for a beating  that myself and  some other submissive have trouble explaining.


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RE: A Good Beating - 6/16/2006 8:58:20 PM   
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jali

the "beating into a better mood" is usually when i'm restless and antsy and have no idea what is wrong but i'm confused and irritated with myself which makes me shorter tempered with everything and everyone around me. lol If that makes sense. Then a good flogging or paddling lets me release the restlessness and inner unease *s* very calming lol like a day at the spa *s* and alot more fun.

Normally I'm pretty even tempered as well but I do have my flare up moments *giggles*

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RE: A Good Beating - 6/17/2006 3:00:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: slavejali

LaMspeach: ""The Crazies" = Those unexplainable feelings that no matter how hard you try, you just cant explain." Loved that.


twicehappy: "Worse yet is the frustration you feel when they do not "hear" this impalpable message, it almost makes it worse."

Can really relate to that at times...I think I'm slowly learning how to handle that.


I love that term” crazies as well, thank you Peach.

Jali over the years i learned to handle the crazies but even if mentally you realize what is going on inside your head your body will still twitch with that very real need.

Ladyhugs, once again an excellent post, extremely apt descriptions, thank you as well. 



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RE: A Good Beating - 6/17/2006 6:46:48 AM   
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I read this topic when you first posted it but life has had me too busy to get back and post to it. I found myself though, thinking about it often while I have been busy. Trying to find the words to describe the feelings. What I have found is that it is difficult to try to explain how I feel about this.

I am a person who has frequently found that I have a need to sort through emotions in a physical way, maybe it's a leftover of my days of fighting. Sometimes I can accomplish that by doing something simple such as walking, sitting or hiking in the woods. Other times it may take something more physically demanding that provides a specific target upon which to take out my emotion....like splitting a pile of wood, or beating the hell out of a heavy bag.

As for beating in scene, most times for me I don't get a catharsis from simply being "beat". At least not in the sense of a prediscussed and consented to get up on the cross kind of beating. I have found that I get the best catharsis from scenes where I can actively take out my aggressions. Primal play....take down scenes. Scenes where by the time the beating begins I am physically spent and can no longer resist.

My ex had a knack for gaging my emotions and he could tell when I was "keyed up" and "feeling froggy". Sometimes leading up to it he would jokingly say something to the effect of "my needing to have it beat out of me". Other times he would just sense that I was at the "impending detonation" stage....maybe he could hear the ticking???.....and he would simply come and playfully "mess" with me. It would start innocently with wrestling, shadow boxing....that sort of thing. Before you knew it though all bets were off and we were off and running into a full blown grunting, groaning and breathless duel. Sometimes it was more of a wrestle me to bondage kind of thing, followed by a heavy impact scene.

I find in these types of "beating" scenes, that subspace is something that I fight off...or maybe it's just that my emotion runs so high it makes it impossible. It doesn't come for me until after my body hits that "wall" of physical exhaustion....but when it does come it is profound and different than what I experience in the typical "play" scene.

After these types of scenes I always feel somehow lighter, like I've just been unburdened. Like a tea kettle that was whistling on high and someone took the lid off and turned the heat down to a comfortable simmer or a tire that was filled to a dangerously high PSI and had the valve opened for a bit. Like the quiet, calm and slow feeling in your head right after a high fever has broken.

The other memory that kept calling out to me when I was looking for somehow to relate the feeling to some other, was the feeling you get when you nurse a baby...but on a higher level. For those who have nursed.....you know how you can be having a really hectic and stressful day and when you settle in that comfortable chair with baby in your arms and you get that letdown....suddenly all is calm and right with the world. Well, it's kind of like that for me....magnified to an extreme.


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RE: A Good Beating - 6/17/2006 6:51:04 AM   
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Erin,

A wonderful explanation!

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