quote:

ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess


I assume from this that 56% of white women voters are some combination of the following: conservative, anti-contraception, anti-abortion, oblivious to the "rape" statements, too concerned about the economy to worry about their individual rights (including equal pay) or just too bloody well rich to care about other people. (?)

quote:

ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess


In this year, where there was so much anti-woman rhetoric from the GOP, the fact that of the white women who bothered to vote, 56% still voted GOP is somewhat alarming (at least to me, it is).

quote:

ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess

In this year, where there was so much anti-woman rhetoric from the GOP, the fact that of the white women who bothered to vote, 56% still voted GOP is somewhat alarming (at least to me, it is).

It does seem the voting public is more polarized by race than I would have previously thought (although this does reflect historical trends where most white people generally tend to vote Republican).

I just thought all of the anti-female rhetoric would have had a greater impact on the white female vote. It is really surprising to me that it didn't.

quote:

ORIGINAL: TreasureKY
If, as you say, "most white people generally tend to vote Republican" were true, don't you think we'd be looking at a completely different political landscape right now?

quote:

ORIGINAL: TreasureKY
First, if this election were truly as polarized by race as you've suggested, Romney would have won. To be honest, McCain would have won his second term as President Obama would never have been elected.

In 2010, the census reports that there are 137,263,000 registered voters. 114,482,000 (83%) are white.

quote:

If, as you say, "most white people generally tend to vote Republican" were true, don't you think we'd be looking at a completely different political landscape right now?

quote:

As far as how women voted, it is kind of naive to think all women focus on the same limited issues. I'm rather insulted to think that I have to be pandered to on very special issues related to "female things". Like I shouldn't worry my "pretty little head" over the real issues of economy and foreign policy.

Sure there are some Republican idiots out there who say some pretty stupid things, but I don't appreciate being lumped in as supporting them simply because I'm fiscally conservative and identify as Republican. It would be nice to be given credit for having half a brain... but apparently women aren't supposed to think for themselves and need someone to tell us what we need to be concerned about.

I can see where someone accepting that guidance might be confused by the results.

quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess


I assume from this that 56% of white women voters are some combination of the following: conservative, anti-contraception, anti-abortion, oblivious to the "rape" statements, too concerned about the economy to worry about their individual rights (including equal pay) or just too bloody well rich to care about other people. (?)

You left one out: racist.

I spent a brief amount of time on a crafting website....you'd be surprised at some of the comments regarding the fact that Obama is black or has what they consider a Muslim name.

quote:

I don't suppose it ever dawned on anyone that they might have voted that way because they thought Romney was the better condidate. Naw they must be stupid or racist because they didn't vote the same way you did.

quote:

56% of white women voters are some combination of the following: conservative, anti-contraception, anti-abortion, oblivious to the "rape" statements, too concerned about the economy to worry about their individual rights (including equal pay) or just too bloody well rich to care about other people.

quote:

ORIGINAL: YN

According to your press 7 million European voters stayed home.

And women, especially single women voted for Obama, or so the reports claim. I asked the resident woman why she thought that was. She said that the way he treats and his relationship with his wife impressed her, and in her opinion would impress many other women. Male politicians with mistresses or who mistreat or disrespect women in general and their wives in particular are a regularity worldwide, and one who doesn't already has a lead in her opinion.

The various debriefings and afterwork in the media show that women and "Hispanics" turned the tide in favor of Obama, in addition to the 90% "black" support.

In summary minorities and women appear to have been the voters putting Obama ahead.

quote:

ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess
Everyone is free to vote however they want. Where did I suggest otherwise. I think voting against self-interest is illogical, but you are entitled to your opinion.

quote:

I assume from this that 56% of white women voters are some combination of the following: conservative, anti-contraception, anti-abortion, oblivious to the "rape" statements, too concerned about the economy to worry about their individual rights (including equal pay) or just too bloody well rich to care about other people. (?)

I understand these numbers are the reality of the exit polls. But I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this one. It certainly does not reflect the way most of the white women I know think (and they come from all over the country including the red states). Someone help me understand this. Was Romney right that women married to conservative men just follow their husband's vote??

quote:

So you don't think issues like equal pay, which I specifically mention in my post, are economic? What is equal pay to you then?
There is nothing wrong with being fiscally conservative but I believe women deserve equal pay for equal work.
Here is the congressional voting record for a particular bill that related to equal pay - The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009. As you can see, all but three Republicans voted against it. It is only law because Democrats voted for it. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll037.xml
Please explain to me why an ECONOMIC act of this nature should not matter to women? Why does your fiscal conservatism support a party that does not believe women are entitled to the same pay as men? Do you not believe women are just as worthy in the economy as men? Or do you not work so these types of issues are irrelevant to you? Again, I'm not asking you to be on the side of equal pay. I just want to understand why you don't care that women are paid fairly. You claim to be worried about the economy. I guess just on behalf of men?
And just to be clear, I am not confused about anything.

• A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
  
• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
  

quote:

ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess

I think voting against self-interest is illogical, but you are entitled to your opinion.

quote:

ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess

So you don't think issues like equal pay, which I specifically mention in my post, are economic? What is equal pay to you then?

There is nothing wrong with being fiscally conservative but I believe women deserve equal pay for equal work.

Here is the congressional voting record for a particular bill that related to equal pay - The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009. As you can see, all but three Republicans voted against it. It is only law because Democrats voted for it. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll037.xml

Please explain to me why an ECONOMIC act of this nature should not matter to women? Why does your fiscal conservatism support a party that does not believe women are entitled to the same pay as men? Do you not believe women are just as worthy in the economy as men? Or do you not work so these types of issues are irrelevant to you? Again, I'm not asking you to be on the side of equal pay. I just want to understand why you don't care that women are paid fairly. You claim to be worried about the economy. I guess just on behalf of men?

quote:

ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess

In this year, where there was so much anti-woman rhetoric from the GOP, the fact that of the white women who bothered to vote, 56% still voted GOP is somewhat alarming (at least to me, it is).

It does seem the voting public is more polarized by race than I would have previously thought (although this does reflect historical trends where most white people generally tend to vote Republican).

I just thought all of the anti-female rhetoric would have had a greater impact on the white female vote. It is really surprising to me that it didn't.

First, if this election were truly as polarized by race as you've suggested, Romney would have won. To be honest, McCain would have won his second term as President Obama would never have been elected.

In 2010, the census reports that there are 137,263,000 registered voters. 114,482,000 (83%) are white.

If, as you say, "most white people generally tend to vote Republican" were true, don't you think we'd be looking at a completely different political landscape right now?

As far as how women voted, it is kind of naive to think all women focus on the same limited issues. I'm rather insulted to think that I have to be pandered to on very special issues related to "female things". Like I shouldn't worry my "pretty little head" over the real issues of economy and foreign policy.

Sure there are some Republican idiots out there who say some pretty stupid things, but I don't appreciate being lumped in as supporting them simply because I'm fiscally conservative and identify as Republican. It would be nice to be given credit for having half a brain... but apparently women aren't supposed to think for themselves and need someone to tell us what we need to be concerned about.

I can see where someone accepting that guidance might be confused by the results.