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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 people their jobs - 11/21/2012 4:17:45 PM   
LookieNoNookie


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My first christmas I was so excited got my first pair of shoes, one size 9 and one size 11 and both for the same foot!!!!


I used to walk uphill, against the snow (even when there wasn't snow....sometimes it was even in July), barefoot....on broken glass, with no clothes on...while there were NUN's!!!!! watching me walk uphill, against the snow (even when there wasn't snow....sometimes it was even in July), barefoot....on broken glass, with no clothes on...and I just fucking soldiered on!

Your gawdamned right! Sometimes I even CHEWED glass on the way to 4th grade because I had no food (for like 2 weeks!...I didn't eat bugs....I ate AIR!!!!!)....occasionally even against horrific headwinds with tree's blasting into my face....lacerations gripped me....I had to go through 3 hours of hospital care before I could EVEN attend FINGER PAINTING classes!!!!!!

Yeah...top that motherfucker!!!!

Yeah....come on.....

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 people their jobs - 11/21/2012 4:20:02 PM   
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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 people their jobs - 11/21/2012 4:21:27 PM   
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My twin brother used to walk on broken glass for a quarter.   It's how we paid our way thru gradeschool.


I did it for 12 cents....AND I whored myself out Democrats!!!!

Yeah...bring it!!!!

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 people their jobs - 11/21/2012 4:22:25 PM   
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My first christmas I was so excited got my first pair of shoes, one size 9 and one size 11 and both for the same foot!!!!


I used to walk uphill, against the snow (even when there wasn't snow....sometimes it was even in July), barefoot....on broken glass, with no clothes on...while there were NUN's!!!!! watching me walk uphill, against the snow (even when there wasn't snow....sometimes it was even in July), barefoot....on broken glass, with no clothes on...and I just fucking soldiered on!

Your gawdamned right! Sometimes I even CHEWED glass on the way to 4th grade because I had no food (for like 2 weeks!)....occasionally even against horrific headwinds with tree's blasting into my face....lacerations gripped me....I had to go through 3 hours of hospital care before I could EVEN attend FINGER PAINTING classes!!!!!!

Yeah...top that motherfucker!!!!

Yeah....come on.....


You got to go to sumer school and flash nuns....too kewel...I wish I had been that rich.

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 people their jobs - 11/21/2012 4:22:53 PM   
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Nobody can beat that.

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/21/2012 4:25:45 PM   
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Yeah so let's tally here...

18,500 onto unemployment roles, when they still had viable jobs

And how many fat cats???


Perhaps you did not read the bankruptsy judge's rueling concerning how it was to be done. Perhaps you should ,since it prevents the owners from striping the corporation of it's assets and why?

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 people their jobs - 11/21/2012 4:26:19 PM   
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My first christmas I was so excited got my first pair of shoes, one size 9 and one size 11 and both for the same foot!!!!


I used to walk uphill, against the snow (even when there wasn't snow....sometimes it was even in July), barefoot....on broken glass, with no clothes on...while there were NUN's!!!!! watching me walk uphill, against the snow (even when there wasn't snow....sometimes it was even in July), barefoot....on broken glass, with no clothes on...and I just fucking soldiered on!

Your gawdamned right! Sometimes I even CHEWED glass on the way to 4th grade because I had no food (for like 2 weeks!)....occasionally even against horrific headwinds with tree's blasting into my face....lacerations gripped me....I had to go through 3 hours of hospital care before I could EVEN attend FINGER PAINTING classes!!!!!!

Yeah...top that motherfucker!!!!

Yeah....come on.....


You got to go to sumer school and flash nuns....too kewel...I wish I had been that rich.


It's a gift....and a curse.

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/21/2012 4:29:12 PM   
LookieNoNookie


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Yeah so let's tally here...

18,500 onto unemployment roles, when they still had viable jobs

And how many fat cats???


Perhaps you did not read the bankruptsy judge's rueling concerning how it was to be done. Perhaps you should ,since it prevents the owners from striping the corporation of it's assets and why?



Striping? (there were multiple other spelling and grammar errors...but I felt "striping" was the most egregious...the most deserving of my disdain).

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/21/2012 4:41:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		egregious --- its original meaning was distinguished, and archaically used it connotates same.

Disquieting; perhaps, errant; certainly, egregious, only to pedantics and hoi polloi.

Like the English blokes.




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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/21/2012 4:43:15 PM   
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The 7,000 Teamsters accepted the new contract... so I guess you think they are getting a golden parachute too huh???

So how is rejecting a new contract and closing the company going to help the 18,500 people out of work today?

Here's the simple fact... They were not getting a better collective bargaining deal. Now they have even less.


Here is another simple fact. The company went bankrupt in 2004 and were subsequently taken over by investmment bankers. The new owner broke the terms of workers contracts, so the workers went on strike.

Thats even suggesting the management were doing a good job of running the company.

Odd how capitalists cry like a babies when workers apply the right to withdraw labour. You are forgetting your mantra "no one is too big to fail"

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/21/2012 5:23:45 PM   
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egregious --- its original meaning was distinguished, and archaically used it connotates same.

Disquieting; perhaps, errant; certainly, egregious, only to pedantics and hoi polloi.

Like the English blokes.





I will destroy you for this.

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/21/2012 5:34:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

Yeah so let's tally here...

18,500 onto unemployment roles, when they still had viable jobs

And how many fat cats???


Perhaps you did not read the bankruptsy judge's rueling concerning how it was to be done. Perhaps you should ,since it prevents the owners from striping the corporation of it's assets and why?



Striping? (there were multiple other spelling and grammar errors...but I felt "striping" was the most egregious...the most deserving of my disdain).


As I have mentioned before...spelling and grammar errors are there so those intellectually challanged individuals will have something to respond to when they find themselvs unable to actually address the substance of my posts.

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/21/2012 5:37:32 PM   
LookieNoNookie


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

Yeah so let's tally here...

18,500 onto unemployment roles, when they still had viable jobs

And how many fat cats???


Perhaps you did not read the bankruptsy judge's rueling concerning how it was to be done. Perhaps you should ,since it prevents the owners from striping the corporation of it's assets and why?



Striping? (there were multiple other spelling and grammar errors...but I felt "striping" was the most egregious...the most deserving of my disdain).


As I have mentioned before...spelling and grammar errors are there so those intellectually challanged individuals will have something to respond to when they find themselvs unable to actually address the substance of my posts.


Thompson...thank you for giving us all something to work with.....we.....I....appreciate it.

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/21/2012 5:43:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

egregious --- its original meaning was distinguished, and archaically used it connotates same.

Disquieting; perhaps, errant; certainly, egregious, only to pedantics and hoi polloi.

Like the English blokes.





I will destroy you for this.


It's been tried more than once, but I don't kill easy.  The first were the ancient Pelopenesians......how do you say rebuttal in Pelopenesian?  OI?  Hint: it is not ad nauseUm, it is ad nauseAm, it means to nauseA, it does not mean to nauseU.



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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/21/2012 7:42:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Now the striking workers can go to the food pantry for dinner tomorrow. How did that strike work out for them ??

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/22/2012 6:37:27 AM   
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Now the striking workers can go to the food pantry for dinner tomorrow. How did that strike work out for them ??


Sure beats slavery.

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/22/2012 7:30:21 AM   
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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/22/2012 7:36:08 AM   
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Odd how capitalists cry like a babies when workers apply the right to withdraw labour. You are forgetting your mantra "no one is too big to fail"

Personally, I do believe that no one is too big to fail. In this case, I think the blame lies on both sides of the aisle. The management of Hostess bungled things one too many times, and the union reps were too dogmatic in their contract negotiations. Who shares MORE of the blame is open to debate, and I can see both sides of the coin here. But, I think it is fallacious for the right to place the blame purely on the unions or for the left to place it purely on management. As with all things, it takes two to tango...and this tango led them straight off a cliff.

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/22/2012 9:10:42 AM   
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Tell that to the 14,000 workers who agreed to accept the CBA


Why do you approve of management being paid seven figures while asking labor to take a wage cut in a company that is going bankrupt?

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/22/2012 9:18:28 AM   
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