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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/18/2012 8:59:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I will never cross a picket line. The bus system went on strike in my city about 5 years ago for three month during winter you can bet I walked my ass every where I needed to go. I have stood on a Picket line, just like every man in my family back to my great great grandfather who stood with the red neck coal miners. It is plan to see that Walmart employees as well as most in retail are far underpaid, and that hurts the economy. With most of Walmarts employees living on the poverty line, and certainly not making a living wage. I can see why they are agitated and will not shop at Walmart until I see this issue as resolved.

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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/18/2012 9:07:10 PM   
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Some Walmart workers are going on strike because health insurance premiums are tripling next year without Walmart absorbing the cost and because of being told on short notice they're expected to work even earlier on Thanksgiving. How are employees supposed to afford a triple increase in premiums on Walmart wages? How many employees will be forced to drop their coverage? How many deaths will that cause? Places like fire departments, hospitals, and nursing homes have to be open on holidays. Department stores and convenience stores don't. Working holidays sucks period, but I think the worst thing about it is mortality. What if a loved one ends up spending their last holiday without you because you're at working at a place that doesn't even have to be open?

http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/wal-mart-workers-black-friday-110048819.html?


Obamacare is going to take care of all of this for them (or make them un or under-employed) or the government will just make a few more scheckles on the backs of the lower middle class.

It's unusual (for me) to see people supporting Blue Laws outside of Bergen County.



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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/18/2012 9:13:06 PM   
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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/18/2012 11:04:40 PM   
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Depends, isnt writing traffic tickets retail for cops?
 

Actually, it's local revenue 'retail,' the cops are just 'customer service' in that regard.


Lowering the legal level for DUI (or DWI) from .1 to .08 was a revenue move, nothing more than that. What a coincidence that beer was allowed to go from 3.5-4% to 8% alcohol content occurring simultaneously. WHAT a freaking coincidence.

The former measure was out of 'great concern for greater safety of society,' so the story went. The latter (though simultaneous move) was for purpose of combining with the first move towards the likely prospect of raising revenues of both insurance companies and local municipalities.

There's our "greater concern for society," USA style.



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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/18/2012 11:37:07 PM   
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Depends, isnt writing traffic tickets retail for cops?   Then I will answer your other thing.

You folks dont give a fuck about these 18000 people, because they are the drain, the welfare patients on you r society. 

Let's face it, we been told that these workers are wal-mart republicans.  They are the people that make america great.

Like these little shit eating minimum wage retail jobs are somehow better than welfare or starving.


Whereas you thrive by ripping them off for pennies on the dollar. That's why you care about them, their misfortune is your fortune.

Nah writing tickets isn't retail, the people aren't buying what we're selling. Think of paying tickets as the cost of doing business. Don't want to pay, don't drive and break the law...

What's your excuse? Oh that's right, you rip them off for their own good. They have to pay the tax man somehow, and there you are, offering them pennies on the dollar. Heat is more important than Grandma's old ring, right Ron?


Well, I don't do anything like that, most of the ripping off that happens is cops coming in for their graft here. Gramas gold ring is a typical payoff for the cops around here.  They cant seem to make it stuffing thier fat pig faces with their bismarks and bearclaws on the welfare they are paid by the state city or county taxes I pay.

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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/19/2012 12:07:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Edwynn

WHAT a freaking coincidence.

There's our "greater concern for society," USA style.




Freedom to drink better beer, and a higher standard of personal responsibility...

Yeah, I can see where that would get the totalitarians into a tizzy.

As for the Walmart strike actions, you normally can't get me near a shopping center on Black Friday, but we do need a new xbox, and if the crowds are down...

Walmart is a shitty place to work. That's no secret. It amazes me to see the same faces at the checkout, year after year, when I do the monthly run for the things we buy there.

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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/19/2012 12:37:23 AM   
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WHAT a freaking coincidence.

There's our "greater concern for society," USA style.




Freedom to drink better beer, and a higher standard of personal responsibility...





OK, so the rock-gut "high gravity" beers (8%) marketed directly to the lowest of society is what you consider "better beer."

We go that, so then no surprise that your ilk consistently argue for ever greater corporate irresponsibility, as a higher art form, a la Rand, and expect ever greater "personal responsibility" from those ever increasingly dispossessed and effectively disenfranchised as direct result of such irresponsibility to make up for the slack.

Your taste and preferences in rock-gut beer seem to align perfectly with your preferences in how corporations and governments should be run, i.e., at the lowest level possible.

We got it.

Pardon if we ignore you, just be grateful we don't stomp on you, as we would a roach in the laundry room.






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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/19/2012 6:34:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's, "rot gut," Edwynn, not, "rock gut," and the lousy cheap stuff with the higher alcohol content has been sold as "malt liquor," instead of "beer," for a long time. I drink bourbon, and never cared for that swill.

But yes, it was, "a la Rand," that loosening the government regulation of beer unleashed the craft beer and micro-brewery industry as a vibrant new piece of the economy.

Fucking ignorant-assed totalitarians...

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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/19/2012 6:53:04 AM   
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OK, so the rock-gut "high gravity" beers (8%) marketed directly to the lowest of society is what you consider "better beer."







Please learn about beer before you post about it.

Malt Liquor has been around for many decades. I have never seen it over 6%. That was the stuff you're talking about. The added alcohol tends to be from rice or corn sugar which adds alcohol and is very inexpensive for the brewer to use but adds no flavor.

The high gravity beers you are talking about are all barley malt with the exception of some wheat (veiss or hefenveiss). These start at about $6 / six-pack

Now, please explain how something that costs over twice as much is being marketed to low income people?

If you have questions about beer and brewing, please feel free to ask. Ive been a brewer for almost 25 years.



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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/19/2012 7:10:51 AM   
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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/19/2012 7:11:03 AM   
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I for one am looking forward to shopping at Wal Mart this season


As if this would be news to anyone.

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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/19/2012 7:12:23 AM   
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If you ignore and exploit people long enough, eventually they get tired of the treatment, and find other ways to get what they want. Witness both the French and Russian revolutions.


The american revolution and it's aftermath was pretty bloody also. Thus the war of 1812.

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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/19/2012 4:44:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

Some Walmart workers are going on strike because health insurance premiums are tripling next year without Walmart absorbing the cost and because of being told on short notice they're expected to work even earlier on Thanksgiving. How are employees supposed to afford a triple increase in premiums on Walmart wages? How many employees will be forced to drop their coverage? How many deaths will that cause? Places like fire departments, hospitals, and nursing homes have to be open on holidays. Department stores and convenience stores don't. Working holidays sucks period, but I think the worst thing about it is mortality. What if a loved one ends up spending their last holiday without you because you're at working at a place that doesn't even have to be open?

http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/wal-mart-workers-black-friday-110048819.html?


10 years ago 87% of the corporate world covered employee insurance in America.

5 years ago it was 73%.

That's because health care has doubled or tripled (depending on where you are) in the last 5 years.

Deal with it.

Someone has to pay.

Today corporate America covers 69% or less of employee healthcare.

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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/19/2012 6:33:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		All I know is those that go on strike better stay out of the way of the Black Friday crowd!

Black Friday people are serious, and those on strike would be run down and hurt.

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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/19/2012 6:37:31 PM   
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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/19/2012 6:40:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can understand being upset about the health insurance cost rising, but I don't get why they are striking over working a holiday. If you want a job without having to work holiday, then don't get a job in retail.

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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/19/2012 6:47:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think everyone's health insurance costs are rising each year. Why should they be any different even if they work for a megalomart like Walmart? Mine went up almost 15% this year.

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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/19/2012 6:50:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Most stores are open and employees expect to work on holidays like Valentine's Day, Veteran's Day, St Patrick's Day, and Independence Day. But Thanksgiving and Christmas are the 2 major holidays spent with family. If people volunteer that's different, but nobody that doesn't work for places that have to stay open should be forced to work on those 2 days.

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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/19/2012 6:51:59 PM   
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I can understand being upset about the health insurance cost rising, but I don't get why they are striking over working a holiday. If you want a job without having to work holiday, then don't get a job in retail.

Don't be self employed either....or work as a biologist....or work in a laboratory.

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RE: Black Friday strike at Walmart - 11/19/2012 6:56:27 PM   
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