Edwynn
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OK, so the rock-gut "high gravity" beers (8%) marketed directly to the lowest of society is what you consider "better beer."
Please learn about beer before you post about it.
Malt Liquor has been around for many decades. I have never seen it over 6%.
Neither have I, nor did I claim any such thing about Malt Liquor, being that I didn't even mention that particular variety.
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That was the stuff you're talking about.
No it wasn't.
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The added alcohol tends to be from rice or corn sugar which adds alcohol and is very inexpensive for the brewer to use but adds no flavor.
The high gravity beers you are talking about ...
Yes, THAT is what I specifically referred to, thanks.
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are all barley malt with the exception of some wheat (veiss or hefenveiss). These start at about $6 / six-pack
Now, please explain how something that costs over twice as much is being marketed to low income people? 
Because I see that a large portion of purchasers of these "high gravity" beers at the convenience store are of the lower income type, for one, and I occasionally glance at the price of the 24 oz. cans I see being sold, as I grab a cola, and they are anywhere from $.99 to $1.29 a can, which being 24 oz., equates to $2.97 to $3.87 for an equivalent six-pack of 12 oz. cans. Schlitz High Gravity and "211" are the only brands I can recall, there are others. Then, if we consider that if going by $ per alcohol content, then these cheapo varieties I'm speaking of actually equate to the price range quoted above for a - twelve-pack - of 'normal' 4% beer. I know that this is not the intention of the micro-breweries (whose 8% product, as you and Heretic point out, cost more), but as for the mass market brewers I'm actually speaking of in my comment, this is far and away the cheapest I've ever seen for alcohol.
I actually was not taking issue with the law allowing the 8% beers, and I did know at the time that much of the discussion was about the small brewery "good" beers that you and Heritic are speaking of.
What I was pointing out was that, after years of denying these small boutique breweries to offer such beers, I found it to be a strange coincidence that the law finally allowed them to do so at nearly the same time that they lowered the threshold for DUI (or DWI) from .1% to .08%, and I had never seen these new "high gravity" cheap beers being sold at the convenience stores prior to that.
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If you have questions about beer and brewing, please feel free to ask. Ive been a brewer for almost 25 years.
Thanks, I certainly don't know much about it, I was just relating what I've seen at the convenience store. I don't know much about the better varieties you speak of, and brew yourself. Are the 8% varieties ALL referred to as 'High Gravity'? If so, I can see why umbrage might have been taken. In any case, it was not my intention to disparage ALL 8% content beers, just the ones I've seen being (seemingly) marketed and sold to a particular sector.
< Message edited by Edwynn -- 11/19/2012 8:07:28 PM >
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