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Muttling -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 12:56:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: coldslayer the sky is falling! the sky is falling! everyone put me in your will [:)] Yes it is!!!! Do the man next to you right this minute so you can die happy.

coldslayer -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 1:26:00 AM)
Ha! Id have more fun doing everything to him but doing him :-p im gonna die a tease!

meatcleaver -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 1:37:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Between Hollywood and the History Channel, everybody should know by now that according to some, Dec. 21,2012 is the end of the world. 10% of the world wide population believes this to be true. Doomsday won't come this year but the human species is a flawed species, unable to maintain and manage its environment and resources, it will certainly destroy civilisation at some point as the earth becomes a barren rock. A barren rock from a human perspective, we won't destroy the world, just ourselves. As evidence you just have to look at how many civilisations have destroyed themselves through destroying their habitat and over consuming their resources. The fact our society thinks it can solve our problems through technology we have yet to invent, is just a conceit.

mons -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 1:53:39 AM)
I am a Christian and I believe that if and when this world were to end, I am not even worried! But I do not want anyone to think because of my religion I have a head up over anyone, this is so not true! I am still that same person as I was before! Jil that was on thing that I saw in a movie it is scary because it has realy happen! With the bird flu from China! Life is to be live and if anyone worries about the end of the world I for one would not want to stay, at all the nuts we have now would still be there! There was an episode on the "show the Twilight Zone!! The scene takes place in an ordinary place with friends and families whom all know one another! The scene come with everyone who happen to laugh if I remember right, at the man and his family whom have a "bomb shelter"! Then the worst thing happen, a war of enormous size everyone in the Untied States would die!!! This man who made plans to save his family, ran and did just that! But then the others came his friends and families, he turned them away, in this type of usually circumstances they when mad !! So as a child I watched this and thought "I never want to be in that type of burden and having to turn away even your family! It turned out to be a fail alarm, and it forevcer changed how people saw one another! I know that people would go nuts and I think they would want to hurt anyone, who stopped them from getting food etc! No I do not want to be around to see that kind of crazies, but I do not believe in the end of the world stuff if it happen it will happen no matter what anyone says! Mons

DesideriScuri -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 2:36:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: meatcleaver Doomsday won't come this year but the human species is a flawed species, unable to maintain and manage its environment and resources, it will certainly destroy civilisation at some point as the earth becomes a barren rock. A barren rock from a human perspective, we won't destroy the world, just ourselves. As evidence you just have to look at how many civilisations have destroyed themselves through destroying their habitat and over consuming their resources. The fact our society thinks it can solve our problems through technology we have yet to invent, is just a conceit. You do realize that all the other civilizations that destroyed themselves actually didn't destroy themselves, right? The Roman Empire rose and fell, but did all the "Romans" disappear? What was it that caused the fall of the Incan, Aztec, and Mayan Civilizations? The Human Race has persevered through it all. It seems that "political structures" are what fall or destroy themselves; not the people.

Lucylastic -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 3:17:40 AM)
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html Question (Q): Are there any threats to the Earth in 2012? Many Internet websites say the world will end in December 2012. Answer (A):The world will not end in 2012. Our planet has been getting along just fine for more than 4 billion years, and credible scientists worldwide know of no threat associated with 2012. Q: What is the origin of the prediction that the world will end in 2012? A: The story started with claims that Nibiru, a supposed planet discovered by the Sumerians, is headed toward Earth. This catastrophe was initially predicted for May 2003, but when nothing happened the doomsday date was moved forward to December 2012 and linked to the end of one of the cycles in the ancient Mayan calendar at the winter solstice in 2012 -- hence the predicted doomsday date of December 21, 2012.

Rule -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 4:11:28 AM)
I found a weird note in my cupboard: "We survive anything!" It was signed: "Cockroaches United" [8D]

meatcleaver -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 4:18:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri You do realize that all the other civilizations that destroyed themselves actually didn't destroy themselves, right? The Roman Empire rose and fell, but did all the "Romans" disappear? What was it that caused the fall of the Incan, Aztec, and Mayan Civilizations? The Human Race has persevered through it all. It seems that "political structures" are what fall or destroy themselves; not the people. Rome fell because it couldn't feed its army and land and resource hungry babarians (some more civilised than Romans) were breaking down the walls of the empire. The Mayans almost certainly destroyed themselves through destroying their habitat and over consuming their resources. The human race could persevere because the human population was so small, there was always somewhere else to go. At the height of the Roman empire it had a population of 60 million people over a area of 2 million sq miles. Today we live in a world of 7 billion people and nowhere else to go.

PeonForHer -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 4:30:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: meatcleaver Today we live in a world of 7 billion people and nowhere else to go. What are you talking about? If need be, all of us who aren't already there could leave this planet and go to the USA.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 5:44:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: meatcleaver quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri You do realize that all the other civilizations that destroyed themselves actually didn't destroy themselves, right? The Roman Empire rose and fell, but did all the "Romans" disappear? What was it that caused the fall of the Incan, Aztec, and Mayan Civilizations? The Human Race has persevered through it all. It seems that "political structures" are what fall or destroy themselves; not the people. Rome fell because it couldn't feed its army and land and resource hungry babarians (some more civilised than Romans) were breaking down the walls of the empire. The Mayans almost certainly destroyed themselves through destroying their habitat and over consuming their resources. The human race could persevere because the human population was so small, there was always somewhere else to go. At the height of the Roman empire it had a population of 60 million people over a area of 2 million sq miles. Today we live in a world of 7 billion people and nowhere else to go. Romans didn't die off. They are still around. Again, you are mistaking the fall of a political entity with the ending of a people. Consider Zaire. It is no longer there, but the people didn't die off when the name disappeared.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 5:53:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Between Hollywood and the History Channel, everybody should know by now that according to some, Dec. 21,2012 is the end of the world. 10% of the world wide population believes this to be true. These theories actually surfaced in the seventies in various books dealing with Ancient Alien visitations, although a couple of the books pointed to this date as the day that the god Kukulkan, the feathered serpent would return. The Aztec belief, and not tied to the Mayan Calender, was that we were in the fifth and final world. One thing that the hundreds of talk show personalities are not telling people about the Mayan calender is that there is a scheduled celebration of a Mayan King set to be held some 400 years from now. This is on the various calender carvings that also show the end of the CURRENT calender to be 12-21-12. History has shown that in the days and weeks leading up to the end date predicted, people commit suicide, sell all personal belongings, or just behave in ways that they normally wouldn't. So far, this seems not to be happening, or the news hasn't stumbled on an upswing of suicides or other behavior associated with doomsday beliefs. There are other prophecies about the end of the world in various cultures, but none have set a date for the end. There are prophecies that concern the beginning of a new age to be accompanied by natural disasters, but again no date is given. Looking at the fact that the government seems not to be taking this seriously, thus if it happens to be true, there is a political angle to the date, what do you think should be done, or should have been done by the government? On the religious front, is this a valid belief or is it a misunderstanding of an ancient culture? Supposedly, the I Ching, or Chinese Book of Changes, contains a system of divination that also pegs December 21st 2012 as the end, too. As far as the Mayan Calendar goes, it's not necessarily accurate to say the world isn't going to end because some King is going to be celebrated centuries from now. What I've seen on TV (History, Discovery, or some other similar channel) is that there is going to be some cataclysmic event that destroys the current civilization and then the calendar restarts. Much like our calendars changing on January 1st, the Mayan Calendar will simply reset. Their supposed belief, however, is that at each reset, there is a complete destruction of the current civilization. I think the long-count calendar lasts 2500 years or so.

SthrnCom4t -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 1:00:38 PM)
Actually there is a collision or near collision predicted for 2037. The landing would be in the Pacific Ocean, 3 miles wide, triggering a giant tsunami effect on the West Coast of the USA. (among other places) We have future ocean front property in Wyoming for sale if anyone is interested.

stellauk -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 1:45:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 History has shown that in the days and weeks leading up to the end date predicted, people commit suicide, sell all personal belongings, or just behave in ways that they normally wouldn't. So far, this seems not to be happening, or the news hasn't stumbled on an upswing of suicides or other behavior associated with doomsday beliefs. But there's the Tea Party, and see what's happening to the Republican Party. And not so long back a lot of people believed Mitt Romney would make a better US President than Barack Obama.

Moonhead -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 2:06:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SthrnCom4t Actually there is a collision or near collision predicted for 2037. The landing would be in the Pacific Ocean, 3 miles wide, triggering a giant tsunami effect on the West Coast of the USA. (among other places) We have future ocean front property in Wyoming for sale if anyone is interested. That's a bit after this Christmas though, isn't it?

meatcleaver -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 2:14:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri Romans didn't die off. They are still around. Again, you are mistaking the fall of a political entity with the ending of a people. Consider Zaire. It is no longer there, but the people didn't die off when the name disappeared. I think you miss the point. The Roman empire had a population of 60 million in an area of 2 million square miles. Rome fell because it could no longer resource itself. It is one of many civilisations that over-consumed itself to destruction. However, our civilisation, on a planet of 7 billion is destroying its habitat and overconsuming its resources. If we can't manage our resources and habitat, there are no empty expanses to move into, we will be living on a rock with nowhere else to go.

meatcleaver -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 2:16:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: ORIGINAL: meatcleaver Today we live in a world of 7 billion people and nowhere else to go. What are you talking about? If need be, all of us who aren't already there could leave this planet and go to the USA. Good point. I'm trying to de-educate myself for the journey because I want to be one of the majority when I get there.

TheHeretic -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 2:22:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stellauk But there's the Tea Party, and see what's happening to the Republican Party. And not so long back a lot of people believed Mitt Romney would make a better US President than Barack Obama. And if that is the path the conversation must follow, Stella, then there are plenty of people who see the re-election of Obama as marking the end of the world. [8\|]

Moonhead -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 2:24:39 PM)
Well, that'll make a change from blaming the Mayans, at least.

DomKen -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 2:39:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SthrnCom4t Actually there is a collision or near collision predicted for 2037. The landing would be in the Pacific Ocean, 3 miles wide, triggering a giant tsunami effect on the West Coast of the USA. (among other places) We have future ocean front property in Wyoming for sale if anyone is interested. There may be a close approach in 2037, I do seem to recall that, but there is no way we could be sure where it would land. There are simply too many variables to deal with when a near earth asteroid is in final approach.

DomKen -> RE: Doomsday is coming! Or is it? (12/1/2012 2:46:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: meatcleaver quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri Romans didn't die off. They are still around. Again, you are mistaking the fall of a political entity with the ending of a people. Consider Zaire. It is no longer there, but the people didn't die off when the name disappeared. I think you miss the point. The Roman empire had a population of 60 million in an area of 2 million square miles. Rome fell because it could no longer resource itself. It is one of many civilisations that over-consumed itself to destruction. However, our civilisation, on a planet of 7 billion is destroying its habitat and overconsuming its resources. If we can't manage our resources and habitat, there are no empty expanses to move into, we will be living on a rock with nowhere else to go. There were no widespread famine during the fall of the Roman empire and I can find no indication of any sort of widespread food shortage. The fall of the Roman Empire is more usually equated with the fact that the Roman Legions were no longer made up of Roman citizens but instead consisted of germanic barbarians often more sympathetic to the invaders than to Rome itself. Another culprit would be the affterefects of the Antonine Plague (perhaps smallpox or measles) which killed about half the empire's population.

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