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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 11/16/2004 4:14:20 PM   
iwillserveu


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Status: offline 		I agree with you from a sub male perpective.

Despite woman saying I should no better if a Domina and I are arguing the relative evilness of nueclear weapons and she has to resort to "because I said so" those are her last words to me as a Domina. If you want doormats go to wal-mart. If you want a worm go to a place that sells live bait. If you want a man, we can talk.

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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 11/16/2004 4:19:31 PM   
iwillserveu


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ORIGINAL: Tristan

Why isn’t there a male supremacy equivalent to female supremacy? I don’t see male dominants or female submissives post their belief in male supremacy.



It is called "General BDSM Disscusion" Incase you had not notice Femal Superior is MUCH rarer than male superior.

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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 11/16/2004 7:18:18 PM   
MsPurrmeow


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ORIGINAL: iwillserveu

I agree with you from a sub male perpective.

Despite woman saying I should no better if a Domina and I are arguing the relative evilness of nueclear weapons and she has to resort to "because I said so" those are her last words to me as a Domina. If you want doormats go to wal-mart. If you want a worm go to a place that sells live bait. If you want a man, we can talk.


Lovely. Very well said. I love having those types of conversations. It turns me off completely when they want to know my opinion so that they can change theirs. I've got a doormat already, don't need another one. I want a brilliant mind to spar with on the tough topics. I see every discourse as an opportunity to learn. If it's not about the topics, then by hearing and understanding his perspective, I learn more about him.

Purr

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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 11/17/2004 1:34:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tristan

Kind of an interesting double standard.


Yes, it is. But there are double standards everywhere. I don't see many Male Dominants using Financial Domination as a fetish all to itself much either. Of course, not many Female Dominants require phalus worship in the form of cock sucking (although, I DO have these great penis sucker candy molds...hmmm..). The list can go on.

Note: the Financial Domination that I'm talking about is the SSC kind, not the "be my ATM you worthless pig!" kind. It CAN be done in an SSC manner.

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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 8/4/2005 5:12:32 PM   
juliettecrusher


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Status: offline 		I would say I would view Female Supremecy as mythological, an idea that Female energy is what is needed in this world to balance it. And until that balance, well... It is more for the Fem Dom as a religion camp, and though it can be made 2 dimensional (I should say Female Supremacy is not man hating, too much compassion for that), there still is much resonance in the words of Elise Sutton or the images of the OWK.

In reality, are all males inferior? Are all Females Supreme? No, it isn't about that, it is about that the male needs to submit his ego to the sometimes cruel, but ultimately wise and compassionate Loving Dominant Female, and only through this subjugation will he find himself whole again.

In short, world out of balance, people make a fetish about it. Some have turned that fetish into a seeming religion, taken as what it is, it can be quite positive.

Miss Juliette

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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 8/4/2005 7:23:03 PM   
imtempting


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ORIGINAL: cynnacent1
. Perhaps they simply claim such with hopes that subscribing to those beliefs may impress a Mistress/Domme who might take the time to stop and read their profile?


Im taking it off topic but wander if ive impressed people with my recent posts?...

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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 8/4/2005 11:24:28 PM   
SteelBondager


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I have often thought that the broad-based assertion of any group being superior or inferior is essentially a sign of weakness and insecurity on the part of the bigot making such grandiose claims


And I thought it was just stupidity...

(Umm.. isn't this a broad-based assertion of bigots being inferior?)

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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 8/4/2005 11:36:14 PM   
yoursMaam


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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 8/4/2005 11:40:04 PM   
Fidelity


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Status: offline 		Well,I have to agree that this view point you state about those who believe in female superitorty is a great justification for one weak and worthless grouping with crappy self esteem to feed off of another.

Takes all kinds, I guess.

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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 8/5/2005 2:48:01 AM   
nella


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Status: offline 		i dont belive in the superiority of any of the sexes, but some pepole do, and they should be aloved to. And i dont belive it more or less silly for a man to belive all menn are superior to woman than a woman that belive all woman is superior to men. It is an opinion, nothing more.

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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 8/5/2005 3:38:19 AM   
DublinSwitch


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ORIGINAL: Fidelity

... those who believe in female superitorty is a great justification for one weak and worthless grouping with crappy self esteem to feed off of another.




Brilliant - well said and I completly agree!

Now as for Switch Superiority...that would be a completly different kettle of fish.

I'm off to start a Switch Superiorty Cult...down on your knees worthless wormy Dom and Subs! where's me tribute? pander to my ego now!!!

Cheers

DS

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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 8/5/2005 4:18:56 AM   
nella


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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 8/5/2005 5:12:20 PM   
LadySonelle


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Status: offline 		For Me the concept of Female supremacy exists on many layers in many forms, but it is not universal at all.

On the physiological plane, Women are superior because their bodies can sustain greater injuries with fewer bad effects, recover more swiftly, live longer etc etc.
As I teach My submissives and slaves, the human body (and ALL embryos) begin as female. Only after chemical signals (triggered by chromosomes within the blastocyst cells) do the all-female templates with XY (or WN in dogs, etc) chromosomes shift to male characteristics. The original tends to be superior to the copy. The X is a broken Y, the N a broken W.

Do these examples prove immutable and universal Female Supremacy? Nope! Do they prove all men are worms? Nope! In fact, I think that most males in BDSM are superior to some degree to men NOT into bDSM because they are exercising their imaginations and intellect in the pursuit of alternative sexuality.

I encourage My slaves to be submissive to Females in BDSM and polite and courteous to ALL Women, chivalrous and gentle in their manners. A well trained male slave, perfected in his submission and manners is superior to an untrained, uneducated female in or out of BDSM. Superiority is an individual trait and manifested differently in every person.

Recently I read a letter on a mail group I belong to that went something like this:

Dear slaves I am misteress soandso please viset my websight i will drain you and turn you into my worms to sirve me and be my salves iI will beet you and mak you obay me becuase I am you mIstres! i ahve a nightflert groupe an al l mIstreses are welcom to cal and be part of my grop.

You get the picture. Sorry, but a typo or two will creep in (guilty as charged) but even the most cursory re-read would have eliminated a few of those errors! How can such a woman claim Superiority over anything if she does not exercise even the lightest effort at coherence?

Superiority is developed through effort, dilligence and practise. Male OR Female can manifest superior traits. We as Dominants are (or ought to be) leaders. Our slaves should become the best they can become, whatever sex!

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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 8/5/2005 7:10:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm really glad I took a peek at this thread...there's some very interesting insight from all here...I'm sure damn happy I love to continue learning about lifes open roads...this has me looking at some pretty preconcived ideas in a new light...just when I thought I knew alot..I find I know even less...thank you one and all...


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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 8/6/2005 4:40:47 AM   
nella


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Dear slaves I am misteress soandso please viset my websight i will drain you and turn you into my worms to sirve me and be my salves iI will beet you and mak you obay me becuase I am you mIstres! i ahve a nightflert groupe an al l mIstreses are welcom to cal and be part of my grop.


i never thoth i would say it, but this writing is even worce than mine.

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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 8/7/2005 2:34:41 AM   
MadameDahlia


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ORIGINAL: yoursMaam

with all due respect, as a hunter, any creature that can bleed for three days and not die is tougher than i am.


On a somewhat gross note... I bled for six months and didn't die. What does that make me?


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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 8/7/2005 2:40:10 AM   
onceburned


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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 8/7/2005 8:26:24 PM   
MadameDahlia


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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 8/8/2005 8:43:57 PM   
LilyOR


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Status: offline 		Yanno, I tend to be a bit literal with this female superiority stuff. By that, I mean that biologically, it's a silly concept.

Even so, I can almost wrap my mind around an interpretation of it as a non-literal perspective meant to enhance the D/s dynamic. Almost.

What really gets me is when I read a piece about female superiority in which someone vaguely make some sort of reference to the "natural order" or "nature" or some such. I think I might have read something like that on the Sutton website (maybe another site).

What I'd love to know is...what literature do these people think they're referring to and can I see it?

Lil

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RE: Female Supremacy??? My rant... - 8/9/2005 4:42:24 PM   
DeviantDreamer


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Status: offline 		I agree.

A woman who is a weak and mean bitch is not better than a good and decent man.

But overall as much as I know everyone is equal....women are superior human beings in terms of they are more likely to create than destroy. men just destroy...except for us artist types =)

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