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Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 11:24:32 AM

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Forgive me if this has been brought up before. I did a quick search and didn't find anything, so I'm assuming that if it has been brought up, it was a while ago.

We have all heard of forced orgasming, forced bi, forced chastity, forced fem, ad nausea, etc. I've even read discussions on forced exercising, but what about forced learning? I get nothing from making someone worthless, but I do enjoy pushing someone hard to better themselves. I know there are people like me in this way on here, so I'm curious if anyone has experienced this.

Learning is not something you can actually force, so I mean the word more in the way of "Strongly encouraged". Owners and trainers: have you ever forced yours to learn a subject like math or science or the like? Why and how did you do it? Were they successful? Did you both enjoy it?

Submissives: Have you ever been forced to learn a subject? Were you successful? Did the pressure from your dominant help or hinder you? Did you enjoy the experience? How did they do it?

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RE: Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 11:32:40 AM

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http://japanese-tea-ceremony.net/
http://www.thehomebutler.com/special-training-for-butlers.html

^^^^^^^^^typical courses of study.

I could use a girl educated in accounting and finance. Blowjobs? I can train at the olympic level.

There is more to forced education than what it sounds like.

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RE: Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 11:34:28 AM

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I've never forced anyone to continue their education but I've strongly encouraged it.

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RE: Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 11:39:37 AM

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My Kitty is a university student. I require that he pass all of his classes with nothing less than a C and I prefer A's or B's. I haven't given him anything specific to study yet, but that's mostly because he came to me with an unusually broad spectrum of skills. He prides himself on being a jack-of-all-trades. I just reap the benefits of his natural drive.

If, at some point, I do want him to have a skill set he doesn't already possess, then I wouldn't hesitate to require him to learn it, if it's something that will enrich our lives. I'm not going to have him learn something arbitrary that serves no useful purpose.

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RE: Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 1:08:57 PM

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I have "forced" subs to....pay attention to and then pay bills, speak to people that everyone should know how to speak to (lawyers, bankers, police) I have taught them to cook then refused to cook for them unless they could correctly repeat what I showed them. I had one once that I made work on his hand writting. Did they enjoy it ? My honest guess would be no.

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RE: Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 1:09:48 PM

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Did they enjoy it ? My honest guess would be no.

Did they thank you later in life? My honest guess would be yes.

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RE: Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 1:13:28 PM

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the phrase "forced education" is an oxymoron in my mind. i'd hope that anyone i played with could teach me useful things and vice-versa without much prodding.

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RE: Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 1:16:05 PM

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quote:

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Did they enjoy it ? My honest guess would be no.

Did they thank you later in life? My honest guess would be yes.

Two women have. One man tells others that he owes me for helping him grow but he will not thank me for it. I don't really want thanked so it is okay. I'm a momme dommy and people often forget to thank their mom for things.

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RE: Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 1:17:10 PM

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Learning is not something you can actually force

Blah blah blah... I get told there are lots of things I cannot "force" here. Conveniently for me, the accumulated internet wisdom that I read on such topics is still not able to overcome actual reality so I just soldier on.

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Owners and trainers: have you ever forced yours to learn a subject like math or science or the like? Why and how did you do it? Were they successful? Did you both enjoy it?

Oil painting -- with a focus on a career as an artist? I did it because in my considered opinion it was good for the woman I own. It's still a work in progress but her first commissioned portrait just went out the door this week. I didn't think of it in terms of "enjoyment". I find owning Carol deeply rewarding but not "enjoyable" exactly.

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RE: Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 1:23:47 PM

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I have fantasies about being forcEd to learn math skills and such, but if I wasn't willing to pursue something and he wanted me to Daddy would drop the subject, he is not willing to fight me on it.

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RE: Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 1:37:09 PM

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I have fantasies about being forcEd to learn math skills and such, but if I wasn't willing to pursue something and he wanted me to Daddy would drop the subject, he is not willing to fight me on it.

*chuckles* To be fair, I'd drop the topic also if it was just a lark of some sort. But in the case of Carol's potential career as an artist that was elevated in my head to "Potential death bed regret" so I was willing to fight her on it. Anything else would've not measured up to my standards of "love".

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RE: Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 1:44:22 PM

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I never have, but the idea appeals to me on a level. If I were to be forced to learn something I would imagine it could only benefit me. I don't know quite how forced it would be though, as it interests me...it depends on the topic at hand, I suppose. I am useless at anything mathematical, so wouldn't relish that, but it would undoubtedly prove useful. OP, I'm assuming you've never experienced this type of learning?

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RE: Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 2:00:09 PM

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No experience, but it is something that interests me. I've had several people tell me "Oh, I'd love to do X, but I'd never make it through the Y class (Usually math)". That got me thinking about what would happen if they had the support they needed and quitting wasn't an option?

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RE: Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 2:07:36 PM

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Forced Education? Forced anything?

People do not learn unless they want too, in my experience. They are enlightened then they decide to learn.

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RE: Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 2:23:19 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mysteries1984

FR

I never have, but the idea appeals to me on a level. If I were to be forced to learn something I would imagine it could only benefit me. I don't know quite how forced it would be though, as it interests me...it depends on the topic at hand, I suppose. I am useless at anything mathematical, so wouldn't relish that, but it would undoubtedly prove useful. OP, I'm assuming you've never experienced this type of learning?

And there is the enigma of the oxymoron wrapped in a conundrum.

You ain't learned it yet, so my saying get off your ass and get in this book and I will check your work or you get the belt, or some such nonsense (hey, a very disapproving look.....howz dat?) is the 'force'.

If you ain't doing it now................and you are doing it now........WOMP, THEY IT IS!!!!

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RE: Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 3:07:13 PM

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The Mouse when back to school on my command...and she gets discipline/affirmations based on her scores

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RE: Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 3:13:48 PM

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In a riddle.

Hmmm, more of a physical force? Really depends on the topic at hand, I suppose.

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RE: Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 3:32:38 PM

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Learning is not something you can actually force, so I mean the word more in the way of "Strongly encouraged". Owners and trainers: have you ever forced yours to learn a subject like math or science or the like? Why and how did you do it? Were they successful? Did you both enjoy it?

Submissives: Have you ever been forced to learn a subject? Were you successful? Did the pressure from your dominant help or hinder you? Did you enjoy the experience? How did they do it?

I have actually thrived from such force. First with my mother (depression-era-raised woman who had to drop out of highschool to work, joined the military then later had a family) who insisted I study eveeeeeeeerything (again, by force, not abuse but guilt trips lol). This force included reading a dictionary or encylopedias for over an hour then being quizzed (random pages) after the fact. By highschool I was an over-achieving dingbat of a gal who had to know all, to be all. I became less and less about force and more about my own control (being able to outsmart your own parental figures is a start) which had no bounds (unless I gave such restricitions ---ie: my one and only downfall or distraction was MEN, DAMN MEN :P) of which cause I was warned out. But, do not forget that education (once it gains the favor and attention of others or institutions becomes addictive as hell. Once you open this can of worms, once you see this monster (of brains) grow forth--be sure YOU are well adapted yet adept enough to handle the outcome. (will she become smarter/more smartass than you??)

I *kicks herself* soonafter (near graduation officer's training) lost all thrill for the chase of it and again--Mr. Downfall, so I married instead. *BoooOOooyaaaa wtf!!

After children I was nudged (by a non Dominant/equal partner) to return to University for yet more ....masochism lol.

Well, it is a thrill (if you enjoy it) but if one is not inclinded to at the very least --see the need for such improvement, then I can see how it can all go horribly wrong. Yet, on the other hand...if the person is young enough (not a geezer like me who's brain only deteriorates by the milisecond) then it 'should' theoretically be easier with youth to grasp new(er) concepts ...with the right extra tutoring and encouragement. *not dissin' fellow old folks but hell those 20something yr olds can learn.

Adding the extra pressure of another paying/or student loan owing could also add stress to that person just enough to break them into completely losing it or well--making it or breaking em.

If anything, I'd suggest 'free, but lesser-pressure courses' at just barely above their academic level to ensure the person is prepared, and even then give them attempted time to study a bit for the future course so they are not overwhelmed (emotionally also) by an experience (school) that they thought had come to an end FOREVER in their lives.

There comes a point (and perhaps age) when a person is too stubborn, wholly disinterested or thinks they 'already know the secrets of the galaxy' and no book-learnin' agenda even by gunpoint is gonna cut it. This is a far cry from fear (of the unknown) of learning things that someone feels they aren't capable of.

I can only suggest a professional opinion should be used to assess and guide, a plan for a study action plan be done before any such endeavour is acted upon. But, then again do distinguish if said person is or does thrive on more of a pressured approach, it might just work in either scenario yet will take a lot of work from all involved.

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RE: Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 3:44:18 PM

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Plural.

What do you do when you trap cheetahs, TIgers, Lions, OH MY . Bears.

Tin men take over.

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RE: Forced... education? - 12/12/2012 3:47:56 PM

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My son repeated algebra 2 three times in high school, finally passing the new Regents exam and gaining the advanced regents diploma. In NY state this means a lot. But if you asked him to figure anything out based on that today, he couldn't. He didn't learn it, he temporarily memorized it just long enough to gain him the degree.

In this case, the advanced diploma is of vast importance and he realized the value of getting it but none of it was about learning, it was just a stepping stone. He's got a college exam in wellness tomorrow and I doubt he's learned anything in this class that he has enjoyed or will remember. But it's a required half p.e. and half health class without which he can't get his diploma. Again, nothing's really been learned or enjoyed, it's just a stepping stone.

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