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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Columbine Father Darrell Scott Echoes Sentiments Over Sandy Hook Shootings Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/442192/columbine-father-darrell-scott-echoes-sentiments-over-sandy-hook-shootings/#A8dZBZSI8y5IG7Wd.99

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“In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA.

“I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA – because I don’t believe that they are responsible for my daughter’s death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel’s murder I would be their strongest opponent.

“I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy-it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of that blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves.”

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Columbine Father Darrell Scott Echoes Sentiments Over Sandy Hook Shootings Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/442192/columbine-father-darrell-scott-echoes-sentiments-over-sandy-hook-shootings/#A8dZBZSI8y5IG7Wd.99

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“In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA.

“I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA – because I don’t believe that they are responsible for my daughter’s death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel’s murder I would be their strongest opponent.

“I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy-it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of that blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves.”

Darrell Scott is a religious nutbar who blamed the death of his daughter at Columbine on the untrue claim that prayer in school had been outlawed.

The NRA should be blamed for both Columbine and Sandy Hook. They fight tooth and nail over even the most reasonable gun regulations and lobby for insanity like the stand your ground laws.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

And the military wasnt to be a permanent part of the US. They were so suspicious of a standing army that it was supposed to be raised for only 2 years at a time. Interesting how that time frame coincides with the House elections.

The power to declare war is given to Congress... not the President... anther proving point that they wanted as many in agreement as possible, not a dictator making that decision.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_Branch_Petition

Something many may want to read.

"There are instruments so dangerous to the rights of the nation and which place them so totally at the mercy of their governors that those governors, whether legislative or executive, should be restrained from keeping such instruments on foot but in well-defined cases. Such an instrument is a standing army." --Thomas Jefferson to David Humphreys, 1789. ME 7:323

"I do not like [in the new Federal Constitution] the omission of a Bill of Rights providing clearly and without the aid of sophisms for... protection against standing armies." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787. ME 6:387

"Nor is it conceived needful or safe that a standing army should be kept up in time of peace for [defense against invasion]." --Thomas Jefferson: 1st Annual Message, 1801. ME 3:334

"Standing armies [are] inconsistent with [a people's] freedom and subversive of their quiet." --Thomas Jefferson: Reply to Lord North's Proposition, 1775. Papers 1:231

"The spirit of this country is totally adverse to a large military force." --Thomas Jefferson to Chandler Price, 1807. ME 11:160

"A distinction between the civil and military [is one] which it would be for the good of the whole to obliterate as soon as possible." --Thomas Jefferson: Answers to de Meusnier Questions, 1786. ME 17:90

"It is nonsense to talk of regulars. They are not to be had among a people so easy and happy at home as ours. We might as well rely on calling down an army of angels from heaven." --Thomas Jefferson to James Monroe, 1814. ME 14:207

"There shall be no standing army but in time of actual war." --Thomas Jefferson: Draft Virginia Constitution, 1776. Papers 1:363

"The Greeks and Romans had no standing armies, yet they defended themselves. The Greeks by their laws, and the Romans by the spirit of their people, took care to put into the hands of their rulers no such engine of oppression as a standing army. Their system was to make every man a soldier and oblige him to repair to the standard of his country whenever that was reared. This made them invincible; and the same remedy will make us so." --Thomas Jefferson to Thomas Cooper, 1814. ME 14:184

"Bonaparte... transferred the destinies of the republic from the civil to the military arm. Some will use this as a lesson against the practicability of republican government. I read it as a lesson against the danger of standing armies." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Adams, 1800. ME 10:154

Amazing how we have a standing army now, against the wishes of the men who wanted us all armed. The purpose of arming all men was to not have a standing army.

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like religion has ever stopped violence!

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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/scott.asp

Here's what he actually siad:

"“We do not need more religion. We do not need more gaudy television evangelists spewing our verbal religious garbage. We do not need more million-dollar church buildings being constructed while people’s basic needs are being ignored. "

But because you don't like the fact that he won't join you in exploiting the death of his daughter and the shooting of his son for *your* agenda, he nuts?

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Columbine Father Darrell Scott Echoes Sentiments Over Sandy Hook Shootings Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/442192/columbine-father-darrell-scott-echoes-sentiments-over-sandy-hook-shootings/#A8dZBZSI8y5IG7Wd.99

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“In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA.

“I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA – because I don’t believe that they are responsible for my daughter’s death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel’s murder I would be their strongest opponent.

“I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy-it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of that blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves.”

Darrell Scott is a religious nutbar who blamed the death of his daughter at Columbine on the untrue claim that prayer in school had been outlawed.

The NRA should be blamed for both Columbine and Sandy Hook. They fight tooth and nail over even the most reasonable gun regulations and lobby for insanity like the stand your ground laws.

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He did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right!

I challenge every young person in America, and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High schoolprayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain.

Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

The NRA can only exert power if Congress allows.... blame Congress.
[/quoteTo the extant that Congress(or certain members of) are bought and paid for shills for the NRA(hence the gun manufacturers) I blame Congress !
To the extant that the NRA and the manufacturers are the ones doing the "buying" I blame them !

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If we want things to stay as they are,things will have to change...Tancredi from "the Leopard"

Forget Guns-----Ban the pools

Funny stuff....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNwFf991d-4

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

No people of faith are people of faith, when they expect it to determine EVERYBODY elses life as it does theirs, Thats when they become unbalanced.
I dont see any problem with a moment of silence. I dont believe that is a religious thing, its a sign of respect for the dead.
when it is being forced on others of different beliefs or non beliefs then yes I have an issue with it.
Having MORALS is not restricted to ONE religion or faith

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I get what you are saying and religion has done much good, but mostly by individuals and individuals grouping together who have taken the good and love and peace from those religions.

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There are plenty more people who use religion as an excuse to foment fear hate and violence,