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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 10:34:18 AM   
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A person who is outside a community cannot 'fix' that community.
I can't solve the problems of the next town over. Only those people can. They can't fix the problems in my town. Only I and my neighbors can.
re: the inner city minority communities, it seems like every time someone stands up and says "people, let's take responsibility for our own actions, let's encourage our children to stay in school, let's be parents instead of fellow gangstas." they get shouted down by the usual 2 suspects from NYC and Chicago.


There is sadly, to much truth in that. Look what happened to Bill Cosby.

That said, there is a lot we could do but its bit.much to type out on a phone.

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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 10:37:59 AM   
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A person who is outside a community cannot 'fix' that community.
I can't solve the problems of the next town over. Only those people can. They can't fix the problems in my town. Only I and my neighbors can.
re: the inner city minority communities, it seems like every time someone stands up and says "people, let's take responsibility for our own actions, let's encourage our children to stay in school, let's be parents instead of fellow gangstas." they get shouted down by the usual 2 suspects from NYC and Chicago.


There is sadly, to much truth in that. Look what happened to Bill Cosby.

That said, there is a lot we could do but its bit.much to type out on a phone.

That's one of the things I was talking about. It seems that Jackson and Sharpton realized that if people get along and work together for a common good as Dr King wanted their gravy train will come to an end so they cannot allow that to happen.

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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 11:21:22 AM   
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how exactly do you fix that?

Breed better humans. Prohibit all measures - like condoms - against sexually transmitted diseases. That affects mostly animals and it forces females to not have indiscriminate intercourse.

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Personally i find that depressing and scary.. there is an American (former politician) who has been saying that in 20 years the US will basically be a third world country.. while that sounds an extreme change, even to me, when I look at this city, I see how it is possible that the US spiral down to that..

I have been telling you lot for years that the USA population is on the wrong evolutionary track and I have told you what to do about it.

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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 11:34:00 AM   
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The death rate for young black men is staggering but few here give a rat's ass.

Oh my god 20 white kids die, amend the United States Constitution!




If you bothered to check you would find plenty of posts regards dead kids of either colour.

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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 12:27:07 PM   
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You have no idea what most of the people on here care about or not. But go ahead and act like your the only one, I sure it makes you feel better to crow about it and everyone needs a boost in self esteem from time to time.

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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 12:27:42 PM   
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There was quite a discussion about that Trayvon Martin lad being shot by an "armed volunteer", iirc.


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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 12:29:36 PM   
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By the way... no, I don't give a shit. As long as they are busy shooting each other they don't have time to kick my door down again and rob me.


theres a word for people who feel that way but I am not in the mood for a gold colored letter so I will keep it to myself. But just for shits and giggles, why don't you explain what this child did to deserve to be shot.

http://news.yahoo.com/detroit-baby-second-child-shooting-death-234800754.html

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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 12:31:07 PM   
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It is the nature of barbarians that they murder people. That is their own choice. A population of barbarians can evolve into a population of civilized beings in about five generations, and presumably even faster if they do so purposely. All that is required is to breed better humans.

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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 12:37:32 PM   
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Eugenics are frowned upon these days, Rule. I think that breeding programme they had to produce superior Germans back in the late '30s has rather spoiled the pitch for that one.

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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 12:47:15 PM   
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Who is talking about eugenics? Not me.

And as for that Germena breeding programme: In my opinion and analysis ordinary people are superior to high IQ people.

(Which makes sense in the evolution paradigm: if high IQ conferred a reproductive advantage, every individual in a population would have the same identical IQ.)

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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 12:52:31 PM   
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No they wouldn't: upbringing has as much to do with cognitive skills as genetics. Just look at Kingsley Amis' and Alan Moore's kids for a demonstration of that one.

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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 12:55:45 PM   
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Alright, I agree in some ways to the op's statement.

In America children die every day because of guns. White or minority it does not matter, in America children are dying.

And it is true, the only time this issue is raised to a national level is when something like this happens.

Everyone seems to think that every gun owner belongs to the NRA, not true, some belong to the Gun Owner's Association of America, an organization that has repeatedly criticized the NRA for selling out the rights of gun owners.

You look at statistics of gun deaths and all you see are numbers, big numbers.

What you dont see are the numbers broke down by age, race, income level, if it was a family member, if it was a criminal, gang related what.

People from other countries use the term "Gun Toting Americans" as if the majority of Americans carry firearms all the time.

Assault weapons are blamed because you can put large capacity mags in them, up to and including 100 beta mags.

Yeah, kids are dying by guns. Something needs to stop that trend.

But no one says a damn thing about kids dieing each year until something like this happens.

Those of use, gun owners and non gun owners who quietly campaign for reasonable, enforceable and comprehensive gun control laws never make the news.

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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 12:58:06 PM   
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A mass shooting of elementary school children is a bit worse than gangbangers killing each other. Stop trying so hard for those SWPL points.

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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 1:02:10 PM   
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Assault weapons are blamed because you can put large capacity mags in them, up to and including 100 beta mags.

Isn't it more because they have limited application outside of spree killings and armed robbery, rather than the size of the magazine in itself?
I buy that some people might want to use them to hunt with, but something with a larger bullet and a slower rate of fire would seem a lot more useful for that.

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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 1:06:05 PM   
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According to the CDC the leading cause of death among black men aged 15-34 is black men. It's sad and unfortunate but that's going to be a tough sell to society in general to get involved. Sounds like an excellent opportunity to mobilize the black community to try to amend what is happening in their own back yards. Since you appear to be somewhat in the loop is there anything happening on that front?

The CDC also reports that AIDS is much higher among black men and women. They suggest that this is because black men become infected in prison and then infect their partners upon release. I was not aware of that.

Read more about it here.




What do you mean "their back yard"? I find that a racist statement because it's a statement of segregation as if a black Americans are some how less American than white Americans. It's as if the black AMERICAN community is part of some other country or something. The truth is, what goes on in their community effects us as much as anything else. Why do you think there is such anti American rhetoric in "Black America"? As the great Reverend Brown once said "Not God bless America but GOD DAM AMERICA!"

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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 1:07:06 PM   
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Assault weapons are blamed because you can put large capacity mags in them, up to and including 100 beta mags.

Isn't it more because they have limited application outside of spree killings and armed robbery, rather than the size of the magazine in itself?
I buy that some people might want to use them to hunt with, but something with a larger bullet and a slower rate of fire would seem a lot more useful for that.



Ranchers and farmers like the assault weapon to deal with destructive animals like wild hogs that travel in groups. Where I live, other than helping out a neighbor with a hog problem, I rarely use a magazine larger than five rounds, unless I am target shooting.

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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 1:14:15 PM   
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Ah. Vermin control rather than hunting, then. That would actually make sense.

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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 1:22:23 PM   
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Ah. Vermin control rather than hunting, then. That would actually make sense.



When you speak of vermin, wouldnt that include reality tv show producers, stars etc, or is that a different class of vermin?

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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 1:43:13 PM   
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I was thinking more of feral animals tearing up your farmland.
Though that could apply to some of the contestants on "I'm A Celebrity..." I suppose.

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RE: Dead black kids...who cares - 12/19/2012 1:45:16 PM   
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I was thinking more of feral animals tearing up your farmland.
Though that could apply to some of the contestants on "I'm A Celebrity..." I suppose.



Good point. However lets stick to four legged non-intelligent vermin.

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