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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Hopefully the standards have been raised to that now, but right after the shootings, there was a lot of blather about "armed volunteers", which is fucking hysterical when you consider how stringently they vet anybody else who's going to work around kids, isn't it?

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
I've never understood this bomb argument.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
Face it, not one person in 10 has the ability to look someone in the eyes, point a weapon at them obtain a steady and clear sight picture with the safety off and be prepared to shoot.
Forcing those people to carry is worse than ludicrous.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Aren't they talking about volunteers rather than trained 9and evidently competent) SROs, though?
That's surely going to be just asking for trouble.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Its not fucking schadenfreude, its disgust and fucking sadness over all the bullshit. and people dick waving and chest thumping over their "gun rights" while people loose their lives over an idiot with a gun.
I take fuck all pleasure in it.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
Face it, not one person in 10 has the ability to look someone in the eyes, point a weapon at them obtain a steady and clear sight picture with the safety off and be prepared to shoot.
Forcing those people to carry is worse than ludicrous.

Really, this idea is frigging insane. I mean, picture it: you have an armed man in a school who, one hopes, will act, day to day, in such a way as not to traumatise the kids in the short term, nor inculcate a fearful and violent culture in the long term, just by his presence. So, he acts gently and never, ever draws his gun unless he's certain - because, the one time he draws it by mistake on some kid who has water pistol and makes all the kids rush home screaming and in tears, the parents will demand an end to his services. On the other hand, unless he's ready to shoot to kill - and (cf the Connecticut case) kill a child, to boot - at an instant's notice - he's not of much use in the job.

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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

That is simply not believable.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Its not fucking schadenfreude, its disgust and fucking sadness over all the bullshit. and people dick waving and chest thumping over their "gun rights" while people loose their lives over an idiot with a gun.
I take fuck all pleasure in it.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

That is simply not believable.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Its not fucking schadenfreude, its disgust and fucking sadness over all the bullshit. and people dick waving and chest thumping over their "gun rights" while people loose their lives over an idiot with a gun.
I take fuck all pleasure in it.

That is just your opinion.
Matters not one whit.

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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

The original call was for POST certified sworn police officers.

That has been backpedalled to calling for a bunch of George Zimmermans in every school.

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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

I've posted dozens of times recently about the actual scientific, medical, rational, search for solutions to the issue, and all you've done is try to derail any and all talk of a real world solution with the usual gleeful name calling and jingoistic hatemongering that feeds into such killings.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
I never got that either, till I began to grasp how much pro-gunners buy into the 'where there's a will, there's a way' argument: ('if he hadn't killed with a gun, he'd have killed with a knife/bludgeon/bomb/whatever'). There seems to be a psychological assumption behind it that motive always precedes means rather than vice versa.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I said this before and I will say it again, and my plan will save money.

1) Bring all troops stationed overseas back to the US. Closing those bases will save money

2) Take the surplus troops and put them in our schools, and patrolling the mexican border.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I said this before and I will say it again, and my plan will save money.

1) Bring all troops stationed overseas back to the US. Closing those bases will save money

2) Take the surplus troops and put them in our schools, and patrolling the mexican border.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I can tell you one way the money would become available...

If congress would stop spending money on a missile defense system that does not work.

Judging from your previous post are you saying that the missile defense system does not work due to the war heads only able to kill a few 100 thousand were you would say it works if the war head kills 100 million?

For one thing, a missile defense system does not kill people.

In this case I am saying it does not work because it wont intercept missiles.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

I've posted dozens of times recently about the actual scientific, medical, rational, search for solutions to the issue, and all you've done is try to derail any and all talk of a real world solution with the usual gleeful name calling and jingoistic hatemongering that feeds into such killings.

Errrr no you havent and no I havent.

If you mean gun killings you are wrong. If you are still on about chocolate, I will repeat myself. Your notion I keep posting about chocolate is a lie, as I have already stated yesterday.

If I am wrong, quote me. If not then stfu.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

The original call was for POST certified sworn police officers.

That has been backpedalled to calling for a bunch of George Zimmermans in every school.

he was the first thing that went through my mind when they started blathering about armed volunteers as well, to be honest.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
Aren't you basically agreeing with me?

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As for the rest of your post, you just described what cops do EVERY FUCKING DAY.