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RE: Why are we on the CM boards? - 6/18/2006 9:02:49 PM   
ownedgirlie


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ORIGINAL: sskitten

I came looking for insight and community.  I have learned a lot from reading here.  I do not like to argue but I like to speak up about issues I care about, and any issue worth caring about will have more than one perspective worth defending, of course, so there is inevitably going to be some clashing of strong-minded folks here.  I don't mind that at all when ideas are shared respectfully.
 
I feel free to come here and state my thoughts, but I am not as free as some of you.  My Dom asked me to stop posting on a thread I started (except for signing off).  He made that decision before visiting the thread, based on my reactions to it.  He is here to protect me even when I take risks.
 
Frankly, I do not feel comfortable posting here any more and will probably do so only rarely. 

For what it's worth, I enjoy your posts.

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RE: Why are we on the CM boards? - 6/18/2006 9:26:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: twicehappy

Dueling Doms, combative subs, tussling Dommes, flaming slaves, bashing switches and all the other argumentative folks here who come to spar by bandying words expressing your opinions and expounding your hypothesis I come to ask you why?

I came upon CM when I ended a relationship which I thought would last longer than the 2 and a half years it did. I was I think 44 and I was seriously looking at why, even though the last two relationships I was in were somewhat long term still ended.
In short, I discovered what my relationships had in common was that I was always attracted to and involved with  Dominant women, it wasn't an overt talked about dynamic because I wasn't aware of WIITWD as I am today. Anyway I googled "Dominant" for the hell of it because I was aware of that being a piece that I enjoyed in my partners.
Somehow along the way of exploring I got connected to CM.

Honestly now irregardless of the fact that we nitpick each other nigh to death, occasionally do our utmost to thwart our fellows whilst they attempt to foil us in return we return to the boards again and again; WHY?

I lurked and read for a time and realized I connected to what people were sharing and started to understand that this was what was missing from my intimate relationships. That I desired a power dynamic all along. Not only that but the base of honesty, trust, communication, respect, loyalty.  I began to learn a lot about myself and WIITWD. I began a relationship with a Domina while still quite a novice. Although we did not meet here CM forums helped me enrich and be more successful in that relationship. Learning complete open and honest communication about my needs as a submissive and to be involved with Dominant partner. I was so excited it was out here and I finally found it!  I kept and I keep coming back because I almost always learn something new and/or can share the insights I have from my experience, and of course because I love knowledge and a good debate, reading other's perspectives, being involved in serious discussions and laughing my ass off when humor abounds! 

Are there particular individuals you like to argue with? Beloved dire enemies you would sorely miss if they were gone?

No I don't "enjoy" arguing with any particular individuals but I do enjoy a place where everyone can come and reasonably share, debate, and voice how they envision and experience the lifestyle, the world, personal thoughts and opinions with out much site interference.  I don't think I have any dire enemies but there are a few posters I would not miserably miss if they left.

Do you have dear friends, fellow posters you always look for? That you rush to defend?

I admire some of my fellow posters. Butt heads with a few, but can totally agree with them in another thread-different issue. Some poster's I enjoy reading their wisdom, some I appreciate their written communication style, while others just crack me the phuck up.
 
I don't feel a need to rush and defend anyone here, I find people take pretty good care of themselves. I like that even though we can temporarily find agreement or temporarily separate in disagreement I find most of us can detach the issue from the individual and still have a form and sense of comraderie. I do find myself fond of almost everyone thats participates here regularly in some form or another. Yes, there are some who grow on me even though I may find them a pain in the ass sometimes.

If in a relationship or looking for one I want to ask HOW? How and to what degree does that fact color your posts?

One has nothing to do with the other. I really, kind of, don't expect to meet someone from CM, well at least I am not actively looking for someone here at CM to begin an intimate relationship with. If that were to happen it would be a pleasant surprise, but that is not the main reason I am here.

Subs/slaves do your owners moderate your posts or not? Do you feel free to come here and state your thoughts freely as long as you bring no dishonor to your owners?

When I was with my Domina she respected CM as my space and did not monitor me or my posts. She trusted my integrity.
Although I do admit to being moderated by the CM mods once.

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RE: Why are we on the CM boards? - 6/18/2006 10:07:23 PM   
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Us! flame,bitch.disagree?!!! NO say it aint so!   LOL ..
I came here out of curosity. its a friends fault, she did it , blame her. I'm neither witty nor eloquent ,not much of a writter Neither do I feel I have any great insight to offer other than my years doing this 24/7.. and living it. I do try to inject my own opinions  and views  in to what I feel , I have some insight into or have had happen to me. I'm  a bit of an ass at times , but who isnt.  As to why I keep comming back... Hmm well  the smart ass answer would be  that I have a bit of a masochistic  streak..  but  thats  not it.
I think its because its being able to be with a sort of family,  that I'm able to sit down  and converse/express my self  and be able to see something simular come back at me.
as to the flaming  and bitching.. hell.. We are a group of people , who have acknowlaged that we have deep passions ..deep passions oft breed strong opinions..
As to friends and certin posts... hmm I think  yes.. I have come to look for certin authors and their works..lol..
Well any ways  just remember what Pogo said.. We's met the enemy and he's us!
so  keep  that in mind  next  time you see a flame thrower coming your way!  LOL

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RE: Why are we on the CM boards? - 6/18/2006 10:51:56 PM   
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I usually only reply to those threads that interest me. Can't say I enjoy all the back biting but I guess that to be expected. Have learned some from some knowledgable people in the lifestyle. 

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RE: Why are we on the CM boards? - 6/19/2006 2:29:50 AM   
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First of all I belong to a few forums and each one has a different 'personality' and so often get to see very different responses to the same discussion topics.

There are 2 main things I get from forums.

First I find it a way to grow a better tolerance of some of the tastes of others.  It allows me to overcome pre/misconceptions I have.  Of course, that doesn't mean to say it will 'convert' me, but often moves me from the 'I just don't get it' feeling to the 'ok, but its still not for me'.

Second, its about sharing ideas and experiences with people of a similar kink.  It really doesn't matter what kink is brought up, there will be the naysayers.  There will be people who say that it aint d/s, just a party trick, it isn't real,  .. whatever.  The naysayers don't matter.  If they are going to read about others kinks just so they can just knock them - rather than using the posts to be more understanding - that is there choice.

But the posts from others that have similar interests and experiences are the ones important to me.  Thats where we learn from each other - consider variations, get ideas about handling issues, etc.  This is where we continue to learn, no matter how much experience we have.

Brosco

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RE: Why are we on the CM boards? - 6/19/2006 3:58:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Awww, you made my little heart go pit-a-patter.

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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

Don't tell anyone but I do love to argue (read "debate") with Lam and CD...



They have medication for that Lam... lol
 
HEY...don't go soft on me now damnit!!!!
 
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RE: Why are we on the CM boards? - 6/19/2006 4:14:06 AM   
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This is the first forum that I've ever taken part in or contributed to. If I'm perfectly honest, I discovered it when I lost the use of chat and I'm quite glad.

I have discovered that I prefer the time lapse between posting and response, it means that I can be considered about what I'm saying... I like reading how others view things and it provokes me to think about how I view things. It's also interesting to see how people respond to each other in the more *argumentative* responses.

I don't care to argue, it's tedious, boring and almost always a waste of energy and time. Debating, however, isn't.

I don't have friends here, no. I don't have any enemies either (that I'm aware of.....lol).

I've never felt the need to defend anyone nor wish for defence myself, in this forum...the only person who has to stand by my words is me. I will only represent myself.

My posts are read by my Master but there's nothing he'd read that he didn't know....I don't tailor my posts in the knowledge that he reads them, it would make the entire exercise dull and pointless.

Regards, agirl

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RE: Why are we on the CM boards? - 6/19/2006 4:17:03 AM   
twicehappy


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ORIGINAL: Evanesce

  And I'm here for lively conversation that isn't rose-tinted, touchy-feely, PC bullshit.  I don't however, see the "constant bickering" some people claim to see here.  I see strong opinions, and the occasional disagreement, but these are not always bad things.  Conflict is not always negative.  I'm afraid there are many people who need to learn this.


Well i would not call it bickering either though the action does get rather heated, that is why i love it. Honestly i would miss those folks i love to argue with. Only in heated debate with other individuals does any man expand his mind, if we all agreed who would challenge us to examine our way of thinking, make us examine and reexamine our thoughts?

quote:

ORIGINAL: Proprietrix


I don’t really see myself as a person who does a lot of flaming and bashing online. Although I’m sure I sometimes come across that way to others.

I’ll offer a viewpoint that I know the general public doesn’t agree with.
I’ll remove the veils and masks that people wrap up their questions in so I can get to the root of what they’re really asking.
I also don’t hesitate to step up to the plate to defend the underdog, and sometimes that means knocking the bully down a few notches.
And I often state the blatant truth without sugarcoating it.

But rarely do I just insult for the sake of bashing someone. If that was my goal, I have a few people in my life who crave humiliation. 


Yes you do all of these things, which makes your posts such a good read. I too try to do exactly this.

quote:

ORIGINAL: badpaliden

Us! flame,bitch.disagree?!!! NO say it aint so!   LOL ..

Hmm well  the smart ass answer would be  that I have a bit of a masochistic  streak..  but  thats  not it. I think its because its being able to be with a sort of family,  that I'm able to sit down  and converse/express my self  and be able to see something simular come back at me.

as to the flaming  and bitching.. hell.. We are a group of people , who have acknowlaged that we have deep passions ..deep passions oft breed strong opinions..

Well any ways  just remember what Pogo said.. We's met the enemy and he's us!
so  keep  that in mind  next  time you see a flame thrower coming your way!  LOL


Thank you BP for realizing as most did(but a few did not) that the intro to this post was a bit tongue in cheek.

What you say is very true and one of the things i too love, we tend to be a passionate group which breeds strong opinions, i would rather debate with someone of strong convictions that i disagree with than be surrounded with yes men anyday.

And you do not need to be a word smith to state your opinions well, which you often do.

< Message edited by twicehappy -- 6/19/2006 4:18:21 AM >


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RE: Why are we on the CM boards? - 6/19/2006 11:42:43 PM   
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It's called "whiskey," right?

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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Awww, you made my little heart go pit-a-patter.

quote:

ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

Don't tell anyone but I do love to argue (read "debate") with Lam and CD...



They have medication for that Lam... lol

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RE: Why are we on the CM boards? - 6/20/2006 12:03:43 AM   
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It gives me something to read, opens my eyes to new ideas and ways of doing things.. And while I admit I read some of the messages and replies on here and think "my God, these people are CRAZY"  I know we all like different things, and your way of doing things isn't mine.



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RE: Why are we on the CM boards? - 6/20/2006 1:17:09 AM   
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If I was not here, where would I be?

Sinergy

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RE: Why are we on the CM boards? - 6/20/2006 3:26:40 AM   
Kedikat


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I am seeking My one.
In the meantime I am diverted into revealing what an arrogant ass I am, by yapping on the forums.

I indicate in My profile that one might like to peruse My posts to get some insight to Me.

These forums are a wider world to state yourself and see others. Gain a wider view. I happen to be in a time and place in my life where my immediate day to day contacts do not fulfill my wider intellectual wants. I have a few wonderful, challenging friends, but not enough time and place with them. Here I have such a huge variety to both challenge me and comiserate with. Wild threads of information and questions.

It's like a big loud party. But you can hear and be heard clearly, by all these crazy people. Or tune out anything.

And Backspace/Edit/Time can make you seem so much wiser than you are.

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RE: Why are we on the CM boards? - 6/20/2006 3:28:56 AM   
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Kedikat,

So true.  The backspace and delete keys are the ones I use the most.

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RE: Why are we on the CM boards? - 6/20/2006 3:50:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: twicehappy

Dueling Doms, combative subs, tussling Dommes, flaming slaves, bashing switches and all the other argumentative folks here who come to spar by bandying words expressing your opinions and expounding your hypothesis I come to ask you why?

Honestly now irregardless of the fact that we nitpick each other nigh to death, occasionally do our utmost to thwart our fellows whilst they attempt to foil us in return we return to the boards again and again; WHY?

I enjoy the intelligent conversation, and the wonderful humor (some of it unintentional) you find here

Are there particular individuals you like to argue with? Beloved dire enemies you would sorely miss if they were gone?

No, though there are rigid-minded folks here, and frauds, I don't consider them my enemies. I might not stop to pick them up off the side of the road if I saw them, but I wouldn't run them over, either lol.

Do you have dear friends, fellow posters you always look for? That you rush to defend?

There are people I like and care for here. There are a number whose posts I always read, and enjoy. I may "defend" some, but I'm sure they don't need such.

If in a relationship or looking for one I want to ask HOW? How and to what degree does that fact color your posts?

I try to be honest, and be myself, so when I start looking again, people will know me a bit, and hopefully that will lead to finding the right lady.


Masters and Mistresses, Doms and Dommes are you comfortable stating your credo here knowing it is being viewed by those you own or may potentially own, not to mention the reviews by your peers?  

Yep.

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RE: Why are we on the CM boards? - 6/20/2006 4:24:03 AM   
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I guess that now i should answer some of my own questions, those i have not addressed in my replies at any rate.

quote:

Are there particular individuals you like to argue with? Beloved dire enemies you would sorely miss if they were gone? 


Absolutely; I love arguing (debating) with quite a few, LA comes to mind immediately. She will go back and forth with me while we pick each others statements apart and present each other with our opposing views, great fun. Not because i love to fight, but the debate is one of mankind’s greatest skills. Are we enemies, no, i have defended her and she has defended me, i find her to be quick witted and intelligent. We were going to meet her for dinner on our trip to Baltimore that got canceled due to illness.

CD is another, hell we got so riled up at each other it was unbelievable, i had to just block him until my grrr factor went down. The point is we made each other think.

Some of the very best friends i have started out as enemies(strong word but it works), i valued them more because they had opinions and personalitys and were willing to stand up for their beliefs.

Master and Mistress both have folks they love to debate and often disagree with(LAM you are a favorite) yet these folks would be welcome in our home in an instant, think of the mind boggling conversations we could hold, the ideas we could expound.

quote:

Do you have dear friends, fellow posters you always look for? That you rush to defend?


Yes i do have folks whom agree with or not i always read their posts because i admire their conviction and they make me think, or those that make me smile either with their silliness(Benji you are #1 in this category) or their sarcastic to the point wit(Loki wins hands down here followed by mistoferin and LaTigresse).

Those i defend would be any and all i see being flamed without good reason, or those whose point i see being twisted into something other than their original statements intent.

quote:

Subs/slaves do your owners moderate your posts or not? Do you feel free to come here and state your thoughts freely as long as you bring no dishonor to your owners?


Lol, anybody whose had ever read even one of my posts knows i always state my opinion without hesitation or fear my owners will moderate me in any form. They would correct me if the saw me being overtly rude to anyone and often they have admitted i have quite strong beliefs but they defend my right to state them in any manner i see fit without outright ill behavior on my part.

I do admit that when i was searching i read all of the post i could find made by potential Masters, it provided me instant in depth insight into their characters and households.



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RE: Why are we on the CM boards? - 6/20/2006 6:02:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: twicehappy
Absolutely; I love arguing (debating) with quite a few, LA comes to mind immediately. She will go back and forth with me while we pick each others statements apart and present each other with our opposing views, great fun. Not because i love to fight, but the debate is one of mankind’s greatest skills. Are we enemies, no, i have defended her and she has defended me, i find her to be quick witted and intelligent. We were going to meet her for dinner on our trip to Baltimore that got canceled due to illness.


I just want to get my post count up...no wait...that's not it...

You guys will have to forgive me today because I've got a crappy sinus thing going on.  At T-minus 2 weeks to move and still "working" ft, it's NOT fun.

I come here to get challenged, to at least try and use the skills I've learned in life (LAM can tell you how well I am functioning in that at any point), and honestly to try and help others with my perspectives.   

I don't have to like someone to respect them for who they are and what they have to offer.  If more people figured that out, we'd go so much farther than we are.

Now, how many posts am I up to?



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RE: Why are we on the CM boards? - 6/20/2006 6:41:17 AM   
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When we met, I had been active in the lifestyle for many years but beth had zero lifestyle experience. We met from ads on another on-line site, that didn't have a message board at the time. I didn't what her to have me as her only reference. We played a public clubs and attended as many demonstrations and munches as possible. We were on many of the old yahoo groups, and one of them referred us to CM. I encouraged beth to get different perspectives, to see what else was out there and learn from the negative as well as the positive representations. she has gone from being self conscience to confident and I am very proud of her.

The debates are fun. There are some very intelligent people here who we enjoy engaging. You'll never solve anything from the political or social debates but the challenge to substantiate your position fertilizes the search for more information. From that comes more knowledge; to learn something new every day should be everyone's goal.

I just noted that we've been here two years. There is more redundancy of some of the basic questions by new members to the treads but it's only redundant because we've been here for 2 years. Sometimes even a redundant question takes off on a tangent where a new, previously unconsidered, perspective is offered. You know, candles work very well to light the dark, but Edison still felt the need to invent a light bulb. Who knows, maybe someday a new CM member will post an absolute definition of the distinction between slave and submissive. 

We've only ever had one profile between us. We've stay because we've met so many great people and look forward to meeting more. We enjoyed setting up the Vegas CM gathering last spring. We always arrange to meet people from CM at Folsom and the Folsom Fringe. We're very social and for all the discussions regarding the lack of "real" people here, we've can represent we've met plenty.

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