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Chesterfield91 -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 3:18:59 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Baroana
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ORIGINAL: Chesterfield91
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ORIGINAL: Baroana
You are making an extremely flawed comparison by lumping together too many categories and placing apples next to oranges.
When you say that males are more likely to be the victims of violence, it is true. However, the perpetrators of such violence are also overwhelmingly likely to be male. This is anything but a "swept under the rug" issue. Male on male violence probably makes up 90% of violent crime. It is and always has been the single most significant source of disruption in society since the beginning of time. Male on male violence is in no way a hidden problem, and untold numbers of people are up in arms about it. The amount of money and resources spent on the problem is insane.
How many women commit violence against men? Very, very few per capita. One notable exception is young girls who beat on boys they like. (By the way, this might have been the case with your brother, in which case his reaction was just doubly stupid.)
Most women are not wired for violence, and even violent women tend not to attack men. As we all know, a regular woman cannot take a regular man in a fight. Violence against women, therefore, is usually committed by men, and YES it is a special problem. Why? Because as I just said, women are at a physical disadvantage and are typically not well equipped to protect themselves. Moreover, this stuff tends to occur in the home, where no one else is around to protect the female victim. Finally, an abused woman knows that she is vulnerable to retaliation if she does try to seek help after the fact.
Do I need to draw you some kind of diagram, or do you get it now?
I posted this earlier:
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ORIGINAL: Chesterfield91
Men do more damage generally being stronger, but DV rates between the genders are about equal, and some studies have even showed that in cases where the violence is not mutual women are more likely to be the perpetrators.
http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/AJPH.2005.079020
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Results. Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%)
of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women
were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases.
http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
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SUMMARY: This bibliography examines 286 scholarly investigations: 221 empirical studies and 65 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. The aggregate sample size in the reviewed studies exceeds 371,600.
Men are the majority of domestic violence victims, so to me there's no reason that they shouldn't have the same support that women do. I know that men commit more violence on men, that doesn't mean they shouldn't get support if being abused by their partners.
Surely it varies from place to place, though probably not too much. Here's what one source in Canada has to say: http://www.canadianwomen.org/facts-about-violence
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- On average, every six days a woman in Canada is killed by her intimate partner. In 2009, 67 women were murdered by a current or former spouse or boyfriend
- In just one year in Canada, 427,000 women over the age of 15 reported they had been sexually assaulted.7 Since only about 10% of all sexual assaults are reported to the police, the actual number is much higher
- About 80% of sex trafficking victims in Canada are women and girls
- AREN’T MALES JUST AS LIKELY TO BE VICTIMS AS FEMALES?
We strongly believe that ALL violence is unacceptable, and we applaud other campaigns that work to end violence. As a women’s organization, our mission focuses on women and girls. However, our teen violence prevention programs are co-ed, designed for both boys and girls.
According to police, men (49%) and women (51%) in Canada are equally at risk of violent victimization. However, men are much more likely to be assaulted by a stranger or someone from outside their family, while women are much more likely to be assaulted by someone they know.
- Some self-reported research shows women are almost as likely to use violence against their partner as men.
- Although some people claim that men are too embarrassed to admit a woman has abused them, the reverse is actually true: in self-reported research, men tend to over-estimate their partner’s violence while under-estimating their own. At the same time, women over-estimate their own violence, and under-estimate their partner's. This explains why self-reported research often shows similar levels of violence by men and women, even though other research clearly shows that women are disproportionately the victims.
- In addition, self-reported research does not clarify that men are far more likely to initiate violence, while women are more likely to use violence in self-defence.
- Most men are not abusive to their families. However, when family violence does occur, the victims are overwhelmingly female:
- 83% of all police-reported domestic assaults are against women. This pattern is consistent for every province and territory across Canada.
- In spousal violence, three times as many women experience serious violence such as choking, beating, being threatened with a knife or gun, and sexual violence. Women are more likely to be physically injured, to get a restraining order, and to fear for their lives.
- For the past 30 years in Canada, women are three to four times as likely to be killed by their spouse.
- Over 80% of victims of dating violence are female.
- Girls are four times as likely as boys to be sexually assaulted by a family member.
Even if it does vary from place to place, there's no reason that male victims shouldn't have the same support that women do, which is my point. It shouldn't be accepted either way.
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