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tazzygirl -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 11:32:16 AM)
quote: Over those years a few mistakes have been made, like giving women the right to vote, drive, own property, dictate what is cooked for meals, giving them the right to voice their opinion about how much fucking salt a man uses on his popcorn..... Dictate what is cooked... hmmm.. I ask.. I get told.. whatever you decide. My mom got the same answers. As far as the fucking salt, you could always live alone. [;)]

tazzygirl -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 11:34:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chesterfield91 quote: ORIGINAL: Baroana Fast reply Is this topic intended as a grievance against somebody? In case the OP here is unaware, this is what they call "a man's world." Men have been making up the rules of the game for quite some time now. Any complaints you have you should take up with them. This is true, but that doesn't mean that the rules of the game have always been in men's favour. If men have been making the rules for centuries... and the rules were not in their favor.... hmmmm. I think you can get the point from there.

Chesterfield91 -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 11:41:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: Chesterfield91 quote: ORIGINAL: Baroana Fast reply Is this topic intended as a grievance against somebody? In case the OP here is unaware, this is what they call "a man's world." Men have been making up the rules of the game for quite some time now. Any complaints you have you should take up with them. This is true, but that doesn't mean that the rules of the game have always been in men's favour. If men have been making the rules for centuries... and the rules were not in their favor.... hmmmm. I think you can get the point from there. Men at the top make rules in their own favour, not in favour of the men below them...

Aylee -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 11:41:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 quote: ORIGINAL: Baroana Fast reply Is this topic intended as a grievance against somebody? In case the OP here is unaware, this is what they call "a man's world." Men have been making up the rules of the game for quite some time now. Any complaints you have you should take up with them. The topic was posted in response to something said in another thread. Yes men have been making the rule for 50000 years. Over those years a few mistakes have been made, like giving women the right to vote, drive, own property, dictate what is cooked for meals, giving them the right to voice their opinion about how much fucking salt a man uses on his popcorn..... Don't forget what has happened since us wimminz were allowed shoes. Then there is that whole "reading" thing.

Baroana -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 11:42:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 quote: ORIGINAL: Baroana Fast reply Is this topic intended as a grievance against somebody? In case the OP here is unaware, this is what they call "a man's world." Men have been making up the rules of the game for quite some time now. Any complaints you have you should take up with them. The topic was posted in response to something said in another thread. Yes men have been making the rule for 50000 years. Over those years a few mistakes have been made, like giving women the right to vote, drive, own property, dictate what is cooked for meals, giving them the right to voice their opinion about how much fucking salt a man uses on his popcorn..... That'll teach them.

Aylee -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 11:42:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chesterfield91 quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: Chesterfield91 quote: ORIGINAL: Baroana Fast reply Is this topic intended as a grievance against somebody? In case the OP here is unaware, this is what they call "a man's world." Men have been making up the rules of the game for quite some time now. Any complaints you have you should take up with them. This is true, but that doesn't mean that the rules of the game have always been in men's favour. If men have been making the rules for centuries... and the rules were not in their favor.... hmmmm. I think you can get the point from there. Men at the top make rules in their own favour, not in favour of the men below them... And how does that lead to women making men victims?

jlf1961 -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 11:43:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: Over those years a few mistakes have been made, like giving women the right to vote, drive, own property, dictate what is cooked for meals, giving them the right to voice their opinion about how much fucking salt a man uses on his popcorn..... Dictate what is cooked... hmmm.. I ask.. I get told.. whatever you decide. My mom got the same answers. As far as the fucking salt, you could always live alone. [;)] My sister and I are buying the house together. Unfortunately, she could not survive on her ssdi, while I could. And she keeps telling me about the promise she made to mom before mom died about making sure I was okay. The forums is not the place to go into detail on the reasons for that promise, if you want more info, drop me a cmail, I dont mind explaining it in private.

Chesterfield91 -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 11:44:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: Chesterfield91 quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: Chesterfield91 quote: ORIGINAL: Baroana Fast reply Is this topic intended as a grievance against somebody? In case the OP here is unaware, this is what they call "a man's world." Men have been making up the rules of the game for quite some time now. Any complaints you have you should take up with them. This is true, but that doesn't mean that the rules of the game have always been in men's favour. If men have been making the rules for centuries... and the rules were not in their favor.... hmmmm. I think you can get the point from there. Men at the top make rules in their own favour, not in favour of the men below them... And how does that lead to women making men victims? It doesn't lead to women making men victims. I've never suggested that.

tazzygirl -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 11:47:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: Over those years a few mistakes have been made, like giving women the right to vote, drive, own property, dictate what is cooked for meals, giving them the right to voice their opinion about how much fucking salt a man uses on his popcorn..... Dictate what is cooked... hmmm.. I ask.. I get told.. whatever you decide. My mom got the same answers. As far as the fucking salt, you could always live alone. [;)] My sister and I are buying the house together. Unfortunately, she could not survive on her ssdi, while I could. And she keeps telling me about the promise she made to mom before mom died about making sure I was okay. The forums is not the place to go into detail on the reasons for that promise, if you want more info, drop me a cmail, I dont mind explaining it in private. lol.. my post was tongue in cheek. But factual as well. Most men dont look after their own health, they expect the women to do it for them, no matter how much they want to complain about it.

tazzygirl -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 12:15:44 PM)
quote: As well as this, violence on men is often seen as comedy. How often in films do you see a woman slap a man in the face, or kick him in the balls, and it's supposed to be funny? I find this disturbing because it's gone so far that people like Sharon Osbourne can openly ridicule a poor man on TV who has been genitally mutilated by his wife just for filing a divorce: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muuFygvXPAM I dont recall seeing this as a discussion on the boards. A search doesnt bring up the name of the woman. I dont watch the show, dont even recall the episode being discussed on the news. I do notice they all had to apologize for their behavior while discussing it. If you had brought this up as a topic, I cannot think of any woman I know posting who would have laughed. If life is that bad, move the fuck out. Even if he was abusing her, she managed to poison him long enough to incapacitate him, tie him up, and get ready to cut.... she had time to leave. You are young... not a dig at your age or your experience or your ability to hold a discussion... just a statement of fact. I am not young at 47. I remember the laughs men would have at the expense of women they raped, abused, tortured, stalked. These were open and vocal... at the house, at the work place... everywhere. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurman_v._City_of_Torrington To get a full understanding of what I grew up with, you should go to that link. That in no way excuses the laughter in the show. Sharon was being an ass... thats what people were laughing about. Its shock theater... no different than Rush. http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/03/02/has_rush_limbaugh_finally_gone_too_far_in_slut_shaming_sandra_fluke_.html Its still prevalent... now its on both sides of the sexual equation. Its not funny from either side. Osborn, to me, is just as vile as Rush.... and, just like Rush, in no way speaks for the majority of women.

Chesterfield91 -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 12:50:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl You are young... not a dig at your age or your experience or your ability to hold a discussion... just a statement of fact. I am not young at 47. I remember the laughs men would have at the expense of women they raped, abused, tortured, stalked. These were open and vocal... at the house, at the work place... everywhere. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurman_v._City_of_Torrington To get a full understanding of what I grew up with, you should go to that link. That in no way excuses the laughter in the show. Sharon was being an ass... thats what people were laughing about. Its shock theater... no different than Rush. http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/03/02/has_rush_limbaugh_finally_gone_too_far_in_slut_shaming_sandra_fluke_.html Its still prevalent... now its on both sides of the sexual equation. Its not funny from either side. Osborn, to me, is just as vile as Rush.... and, just like Rush, in no way speaks for the majority of women. Difference is that violence against women is challenged much more than violence against men, as well as misogyny being challenged much more than misandry is.

Baroana -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 12:52:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chesterfield91 quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl You are young... not a dig at your age or your experience or your ability to hold a discussion... just a statement of fact. I am not young at 47. I remember the laughs men would have at the expense of women they raped, abused, tortured, stalked. These were open and vocal... at the house, at the work place... everywhere. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurman_v._City_of_Torrington To get a full understanding of what I grew up with, you should go to that link. That in no way excuses the laughter in the show. Sharon was being an ass... thats what people were laughing about. Its shock theater... no different than Rush. http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/03/02/has_rush_limbaugh_finally_gone_too_far_in_slut_shaming_sandra_fluke_.html Its still prevalent... now its on both sides of the sexual equation. Its not funny from either side. Osborn, to me, is just as vile as Rush.... and, just like Rush, in no way speaks for the majority of women. Difference is that violence against women is challenged much more than violence against men, as well as misogyny being challenged much more than misandry is. Show me where.

Chesterfield91 -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 1:02:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Baroana quote: ORIGINAL: Chesterfield91 quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl You are young... not a dig at your age or your experience or your ability to hold a discussion... just a statement of fact. I am not young at 47. I remember the laughs men would have at the expense of women they raped, abused, tortured, stalked. These were open and vocal... at the house, at the work place... everywhere. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurman_v._City_of_Torrington To get a full understanding of what I grew up with, you should go to that link. That in no way excuses the laughter in the show. Sharon was being an ass... thats what people were laughing about. Its shock theater... no different than Rush. http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/03/02/has_rush_limbaugh_finally_gone_too_far_in_slut_shaming_sandra_fluke_.html Its still prevalent... now its on both sides of the sexual equation. Its not funny from either side. Osborn, to me, is just as vile as Rush.... and, just like Rush, in no way speaks for the majority of women. Difference is that violence against women is challenged much more than violence against men, as well as misogyny being challenged much more than misandry is. Show me where. It's all over the place. Recently I've seen a few adverts on TV about stopping violence against women, but nothing to do with stopping violence against men. A personal story would be one of my brother being attacked by a girl a few months ago. She kneed him in the balls "for a laugh". Apparently a girl kneeing a guy in the balls is funny. Anyway he instinctively reacted with a punch in the face. She posted the picture of her black eye on Facebook "this is what ____ did to me". There were hundreds of comments calling him scum, telling him to kill himself, loads of guys threatening to kick the shit out of him. He's a bad guy for defending himself because the person who kneed him in the bollocks had a vagina. That's the kind of mentality many people in our society have towards violence between men and women. I've seen this kind of thing happen many times.

tazzygirl -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 1:02:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chesterfield91 quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl You are young... not a dig at your age or your experience or your ability to hold a discussion... just a statement of fact. I am not young at 47. I remember the laughs men would have at the expense of women they raped, abused, tortured, stalked. These were open and vocal... at the house, at the work place... everywhere. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurman_v._City_of_Torrington To get a full understanding of what I grew up with, you should go to that link. That in no way excuses the laughter in the show. Sharon was being an ass... thats what people were laughing about. Its shock theater... no different than Rush. http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/03/02/has_rush_limbaugh_finally_gone_too_far_in_slut_shaming_sandra_fluke_.html Its still prevalent... now its on both sides of the sexual equation. Its not funny from either side. Osborn, to me, is just as vile as Rush.... and, just like Rush, in no way speaks for the majority of women. Difference is that violence against women is challenged much more than violence against men, as well as misogyny being challenged much more than misandry is. 5 women had to go back on public television to apologize for their conduct..... due to public opinion. How is that not challenging them?

tazzygirl -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 1:05:24 PM)
quote: It's all over the place. Recently I've seen a few adverts on TV about stopping violence against women, but nothing to do with stopping violence against men. A personal story would be one of my brother being attacked by a girl a few months ago. She kneed him in the balls "for a laugh". Apparently a girl kneeing a guy in the balls is funny. Anyway he instinctively reacted with a punch in the face. She posted the picture of her black eye on Facebook "this is what ____ did to me". There were hundreds of comments calling him scum, telling him to kill himself, loads of guys threatening to kick the shit out of him. He's a bad guy for defending himself because the person who kneed him in the bollocks had a vagina. That's the kind of mentality many people in our society have towards violence between men and women. I've seen this kind of thing happen many times. So you are excusing one act of violence because it was from another act of violence? Was she about to knee him again? Was she wrong? hell yes. Was he wrong? hell yes

Chesterfield91 -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 1:09:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: It's all over the place. Recently I've seen a few adverts on TV about stopping violence against women, but nothing to do with stopping violence against men. A personal story would be one of my brother being attacked by a girl a few months ago. She kneed him in the balls "for a laugh". Apparently a girl kneeing a guy in the balls is funny. Anyway he instinctively reacted with a punch in the face. She posted the picture of her black eye on Facebook "this is what ____ did to me". There were hundreds of comments calling him scum, telling him to kill himself, loads of guys threatening to kick the shit out of him. He's a bad guy for defending himself because the person who kneed him in the bollocks had a vagina. That's the kind of mentality many people in our society have towards violence between men and women. I've seen this kind of thing happen many times. So you are excusing one act of violence because it was from another act of violence? Was she about to knee him again? Was she wrong? hell yes. Was he wrong? hell yes Maybe so. My point is that nobody said anything about her being wrong, because she's a girl, and it was "for a laugh".

Baroana -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 1:22:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chesterfield91 quote: ORIGINAL: Baroana quote: ORIGINAL: Chesterfield91 quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl You are young... not a dig at your age or your experience or your ability to hold a discussion... just a statement of fact. I am not young at 47. I remember the laughs men would have at the expense of women they raped, abused, tortured, stalked. These were open and vocal... at the house, at the work place... everywhere. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurman_v._City_of_Torrington To get a full understanding of what I grew up with, you should go to that link. That in no way excuses the laughter in the show. Sharon was being an ass... thats what people were laughing about. Its shock theater... no different than Rush. http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/03/02/has_rush_limbaugh_finally_gone_too_far_in_slut_shaming_sandra_fluke_.html Its still prevalent... now its on both sides of the sexual equation. Its not funny from either side. Osborn, to me, is just as vile as Rush.... and, just like Rush, in no way speaks for the majority of women. Difference is that violence against women is challenged much more than violence against men, as well as misogyny being challenged much more than misandry is. Show me where. It's all over the place. Recently I've seen a few adverts on TV about stopping violence against women, but nothing to do with stopping violence against men. A personal story would be one of my brother being attacked by a girl a few months ago. She kneed him in the balls "for a laugh". Apparently a girl kneeing a guy in the balls is funny. Anyway he instinctively reacted with a punch in the face. She posted the picture of her black eye on Facebook "this is what ____ did to me". There were hundreds of comments calling him scum, telling him to kill himself, loads of guys threatening to kick the shit out of him. He's a bad guy for defending himself because the person who kneed him in the bollocks had a vagina. That's the kind of mentality many people in our society have towards violence between men and women. I've seen this kind of thing happen many times. So, when you speak of this widespread problem in society, what you really mean is that your brother had an incident. Let's pick apart this transaction, and we will assume that it happened the way you say (i.e. the way your brother told you it happened). A girl kneed your brother in the balls for a laugh. How do we know it was for a laugh? Is that what she said? If so, then she's a sadist and a criminal, and your brother should have immediately reported her to the appropriate authorities. Did he do so, or did he react in kind with violence? He chose the latter. Are you starting to see then why the "epidemic" of violence against men by women, if there is one, might not be coming to light?* Your brother then instinctively reacted with a punch in the face??? If those are your brother's instincts, then he had better get some fucking new ones quick before he finds himself in prison for a long time. This is a good time to remember that we are discussing an isolated case here, and these events do not necessarily reflect the nature of men in general or women in general. In this specific case, though, your brother got thoroughly outsmarted by this girl. First, your brother made the completely dumb mistake of retaliating when he should have promptly reported the attack on him. Secondly, he picked the stupidest possible way to retaliate when he chose to punch the girl in the face (you see, she - unlike your less shrewd brother - chose to inflict an injury that wouldn't leave a huge fucking black and blue mark as evidence for the world to see). Now what was your point again? Also, how old were these two parties at the time? ---- * As for an epidemic of violence against men by men, which is something I think you mentioned earlier ... well gee, kid, I know you are quite young and just joining us, but the fact that men are violent - to each other and to women - is hardly fucking news in this world. If you don't like it, then start an annual parade or 5k or whatever the hell you want to do. No one's stopping you.

tazzygirl -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 1:23:44 PM)
quote: It's all over the place. Recently I've seen a few adverts on TV about stopping violence against women, but nothing to do with stopping violence against men. I posted the campaigns I found to nick... they are out there. http://www.oneinthree.com.au/malevictims/ http://joyfulheartfoundation.org/wordpress/1in6-thursday-ending-violence-against-men-and-boys/ The above I would strongly suggest you watch. ............. The following are UK http://brightonmanplan.wordpress.com/2012/03/22/call-for-uk-strategy-to-end-violence-against-men-and-boys/ http://goodmenproject.com/conflict/ending-violence-against-men-and-boys/ http://www.merton.gov.uk/community-living/communitysafety/safermertondomesticviolence/domesticviolence16dayscampaign.htm

Aylee -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 1:27:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chesterfield91 quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: It's all over the place. Recently I've seen a few adverts on TV about stopping violence against women, but nothing to do with stopping violence against men. A personal story would be one of my brother being attacked by a girl a few months ago. She kneed him in the balls "for a laugh". Apparently a girl kneeing a guy in the balls is funny. Anyway he instinctively reacted with a punch in the face. She posted the picture of her black eye on Facebook "this is what ____ did to me". There were hundreds of comments calling him scum, telling him to kill himself, loads of guys threatening to kick the shit out of him. He's a bad guy for defending himself because the person who kneed him in the bollocks had a vagina. That's the kind of mentality many people in our society have towards violence between men and women. I've seen this kind of thing happen many times. So you are excusing one act of violence because it was from another act of violence? Was she about to knee him again? Was she wrong? hell yes. Was he wrong? hell yes Maybe so. My point is that nobody said anything about her being wrong, because she's a girl, and it was "for a laugh". Is it remotely possible that no one commented on her being in the wrong because she FAILED mention what had come before, "this is what ____ did to me"? And so people reacted vicserally to the part she did post.

tazzygirl -> RE: Male victimization in modern society. (1/6/2013 1:30:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chesterfield91 quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: It's all over the place. Recently I've seen a few adverts on TV about stopping violence against women, but nothing to do with stopping violence against men. A personal story would be one of my brother being attacked by a girl a few months ago. She kneed him in the balls "for a laugh". Apparently a girl kneeing a guy in the balls is funny. Anyway he instinctively reacted with a punch in the face. She posted the picture of her black eye on Facebook "this is what ____ did to me". There were hundreds of comments calling him scum, telling him to kill himself, loads of guys threatening to kick the shit out of him. He's a bad guy for defending himself because the person who kneed him in the bollocks had a vagina. That's the kind of mentality many people in our society have towards violence between men and women. I've seen this kind of thing happen many times. So you are excusing one act of violence because it was from another act of violence? Was she about to knee him again? Was she wrong? hell yes. Was he wrong? hell yes Maybe so. My point is that nobody said anything about her being wrong, because she's a girl, and it was "for a laugh". Then someone needs to re-evaluate his friends, dont you think? My brother was abused (gone now). His wife was an utter cunt. Possibly one of the only women in my life I have called that.. but she fit the bill. He would come to my house with bruises, scrapes, cuts... and simply say.. we had a fight. If you think I was not vocal about that abuse, think again. But, I was helpless in what I could do about that situation, other than to support him as best I could in the decisions he made. This was long before the DV laws in the US made the only requirement needed for an arrest are the police. Else I would have called. He was embarrassed... humiliated... and so beat down... but he adored that bitch. The family would talk, rant, rave, beg, plead for him to leave. He refused. This is why I say... until a victim is ready to help themselves, no one can help them. Yes, I know, first hand, just how violent women can be. I also am not one to turn a blind eye to abuse of any kind. Another brother beat his girl friend while I was there. I sucker punched him in the balls, grabbed the girl.. and we ran straight to the police. I testified in her defense. We are still great friends to this day. I loved my brother... wrong is wrong.

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