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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 4:58:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		They don't have the same founder, as a matter of fact, they each have a separate one of their very own, even if the two juniour religions recognise the lawgivers from their senior equivalents as saints. Christianity was founded by Christ and buggered up by Saint Paul. Islam was founded (a thousand or so years later) by the pedophileprophet Mohammed (about cartoons of whom there was all that fuss a few years back). I'm unsure if Abraham is recognised as the sole originator of Judaism or not, but he does appear to be the man behind the contract with God, even if Judaism was modified and refined by subsequent prophets.

(Dead right about that last sentence, though.)

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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 5:04:31 AM   
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Do you have a clue how many peace abiding Muslims there are, or do they all look the same to you ?

I have met several Muslims that I truly like. However, there is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that this circumcising population consists of murderous savages. Neither a car nor an iphone does make a modern civilized person. Neither does the ability to speak elevate someone above animal status. In Fred Flintstone I recognize a civilized, human being. In these Muslims I do not.



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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 5:13:41 AM   
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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 5:14:36 AM   
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I can't make sense of it all... Especially religious wars e.g Christianity V.s Judaism V.s Islam... All three have the same 'founder' Abraham... yet bicker about who 'owns' the Holy Land. Seriously missing the Holy Land wish I could go back soon for a visit but It is so dangerous for me being a Christian. Why Can't we all get along?



The Abrahamic god is a multi-personality wrathful god and all three religions are equally dispicable in the sense their followers can read the mind of their god.

God is a human construct and is a justification for the rabid views of the religious. It stops people taking responsibility for their own views and actions.

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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 5:17:00 AM   
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Do you have a clue how many peace abiding Muslims there are, or do they all look the same to you ?

I have met several Muslims that I truly like. However, there is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that this circumcising population consists of murderous savages. Neither a car nor an iphone does make a modern civilized person. Neither does the ability to speak elevate someone above animal status. In Fred Flintstone I recognize a civilized, human being. In these Muslims I do not.



Strange how it is always Christian and to a lesser extent Jewish soldiers fighting in muslim countries, not the other way round. Sort of tells us who the real problem is.

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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 5:25:06 AM   
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Yet Abraham was the direct line of all three religions? the patriarchal in a way?

Yep, but Christianity and Islam both replace his role as the founder of the religion with more recent characters. Think about it: if Abraham still has the definitive contract with God on behalf of his people, then Christ and Mohammed are redundant, aren't they?

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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 5:39:17 AM   
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I can't make sense of it all... Especially religious wars e.g Christianity V.s Judaism V.s Islam... All three have the same 'founder' Abraham

Abraham was not a founder of Christianity. He was duped by his secretive pagan god to not worship pagan gods but the Divine instead only. This worship of the Divine only is what Christianity, Islam and Judaism have in common. (Though atheism might be added as a fourth way of not worshipping pagan gods; the Divine likely does not care whether it is worshipped or not - it will respond to any spiritual communication.)

Separate from that was the commandment of the pagan god for Abraham to circumcise: that created Judaism. Likely this pagan god, perceptive guy though he was, had no idea what the consequences of this practice would be beyond the immediate one.

Circumcising populations and most Christian non-circumcising populations are on different and antithetical evolutionary tracks.

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Why Can't we all get along?

Because. Because I want humanity to evolve and be elevated above animal status.

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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 5:55:21 AM   
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Strange how it is always Christian and to a lesser extent Jewish soldiers fighting in muslim countries, not the other way round. Sort of tells us who the real problem is.

What concerns me is the other war: the extremely aggressive genetic warfare of the circumcised populations against the non-circumcised populations. And the latter are very much vulnerable because they appear to be unaware that this war is waged against them.

The Christian non-circumcised populations have become hamstrung by being too meek, too civilized, by being divided religiously (being no longer one church), by democracy with its opposing factions.

Usually in a battle between civilized peoples and savages there would be no question about who will have victory. In this case the prospects of the Christian non-circumcised populations in my opinion are not so good.


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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 6:02:43 AM   
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Abraham was not a founder of Christianity. He was duped by his secretive pagan god to not worship pagan gods but the Divine instead only. This worship of the Divine only is what Christianity, Islam and Judaism have in common. (Though atheism might be added as a fourth way of not worshipping pagan gods; the Divine likely does not care whether it is worshipped or not - it will respond to any spiritual communication.)

Seperate from that was the commandment of the pagan god for Abraham to circumcise: that created Judaism. Likely this pagan god, perceptive guy though he was, had no idea what the consequences of this practice would be beyond the immediate one.

Circumcising populations and most Christian non-cricumcising populations are on different and antithetical evolutionary tracks.


If the Abramic god is divine, the last thing the human race needs is the divine because it is a stone-age mentality.

Male circumcision originated in the horn of Africa along with female circumcision, it was practiced pre-Ancient Egypt and in Ancient Egypt and it was a practice adopted by proto-Jews. In fact it was wide spread throughout the middle east as a way of suppressing sex for sexual pleasure. Through the Roman empire circumcision (of both sexes) found its way into the Christian church but as the Christian church spread north, the northern European tribes rejected circumcision as a blood ritual. The early church backed down on trying to enforce circumsion, prefering to have converts without being circumcised than no converts at all. The main reason Christianity caught on in Europe was the church bestowed divine right on kings were before their only right was through power or election. There is absolutely nothing divine about religion, it is all about power and authority on earth which is why it is so bitterly divisive.


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Because. Because I want humanity to evolve and be elevated above animal status.



Religion is stone age superstition and will never elevate humans above animals because we are just an other species that will live or die depending on our own efforts and good sense.

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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 6:06:20 AM   
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Male circumcision originated in the horn of Africa along with female circumcision, it was practiced pre-Ancient Egypt and in Ancient Egypt and it was a practice adopted by proto-Jews. In fact it was wide spread throughout the middle east as a way of suppressing sex for sexual pleasure.

Also as a way of keeping sand out from under the foreskin, which is fair enough.

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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 6:53:51 AM   
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Male circumcision originated in the horn of Africa along with female circumcision, it was practiced pre-Ancient Egypt and in Ancient Egypt and it was a practice adopted by proto-Jews. In fact it was wide spread throughout the middle east as a way of suppressing sex for sexual pleasure.

Also as a way of keeping sand out from under the foreskin, which is fair enough.


OUCH! The lesson behind that is don't have sex amongst the sand dunes!

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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 6:54:40 AM   
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Male circumcision originated in the horn of Africa along with female circumcision, it was practiced pre-Ancient Egypt and in Ancient Egypt and it was a practice adopted by proto-Jews. In fact it was wide spread throughout the middle east as a way of suppressing sex for sexual pleasure.

Also as a way of keeping sand out from under the foreskin, which is fair enough.


The lesson behind that is don't have sex amongst the sand dunes!

There's not a hell of a lot of choice in some places.

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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 6:56:21 AM   
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Male circumcision originated in the horn of Africa along with female circumcision, it was practiced pre-Ancient Egypt and in Ancient Egypt and it was a practice adopted by proto-Jews. In fact it was wide spread throughout the middle east as a way of suppressing sex for sexual pleasure.

Also as a way of keeping sand out from under the foreskin, which is fair enough.


The lesson behind that is don't have sex amongst the sand dunes!

There's not a hell of a lot of choice in some places.


A man has to be stoic to sow his seed so if amongst the sand dunes is all there is, amongst the sand dunes it must be.

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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 8:39:07 AM   
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it was practiced pre-Ancient Egypt and in Ancient Egypt and it was a practice adopted by proto-Jews. In fact it was wide spread throughout the middle east as a way of suppressing sex for sexual pleasure.

Hmm thats unlikely as sexual pleasure isn't suppressed. It was a tribal religious thang as nowadays http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision#Middle_East.2C_Africa_and_Europe

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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 8:55:39 AM   
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Hmm thats unlikely as sexual pleasure isn't suppressed. It was a tribal religious thang as nowadays http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision#Middle_East.2C_Africa_and_Europe


There are recorded comments by Jewish scholars about circumcision being ment to hurt and suppresss sexual pleasure so men don't have sex like beasts in the field. However, removal of the foreskin does cautorize the glans and does reduce sensitivity. Since sex is also psycological pleasure, I am sure any reduction in physical sensitivity is minimal. However, female circumcision, which is directly related to male circumcision historically, certainly does reduce sexual pleasure and is designed to prevent female sexual pleasue and reduce female sexuality to child bearing.

What the original idea of circumcision was we will never know but even tribla rites have reasons and what other reason is their for removing the foreskin than something to do with sex and sexuality?

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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 9:55:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		The world needs to stop bombing arab/muslim countries.

I propose we start bombing Buddhist countries.

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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 10:38:17 AM   
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what other reason is their for removing the foreskin than something to do with sex and sexuality?

There are various other reasons.


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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 11:31:59 AM   
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The world needs to stop bombing arab/muslim countries.

I propose we start bombing Buddhist countries.

Sri Lanka?

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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 12:36:29 PM   
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what other reason is their for removing the foreskin than something to do with sex and sexuality?

There are various other reasons.



There are medical reasons but the vast majority of circumcisions are Muslims, Jews and some Christians having it done for religious ritual reasons.

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RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western cou... - 1/15/2013 1:19:04 PM   
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The world needs to stop bombing arab/muslim countries.

I propose we start bombing Buddhist countries.

Sri Lanka?



Why not?

Or Napal...

Or Las Vegas (there is a Buddhist Temple there too)

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