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LadyPact -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 1:18:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EsotericLady Oh! I'm just fine with your question, LadyPact! No worries here! : ) I get out just fine thank you! LOL I own 2 vehicles, and a driver's license. I know how and where to attend a munch, and have attended them. I've sat right next to littles, a baby girl, and Daddy Doms at munches, and actually befriended a baby girl and little for a time. I also have an online friend who is an AB and has a Mommy, whom I chat with online as well as over the phone. So yes, I would say that means I have experienced life in a public setting, yes! Ha! Oh good, because I honestly wasn't trying to be offensive. Now, I admit that this isn't one of My kinks, personally. I think I've probably learned more about this since moving to AK than anywhere else. However, I don't think it is the different location that has led to this. If I may say, I think some of the age play/regression area has grown a great deal in the last five years and it's terribly vast. The scope of it is rather amazing.

LeatherBentOne51 -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 1:23:19 PM)
OP Sorry you have these misgivings. Ive been speaking to a woman who has been in a BDSM relationship that was centered around ageplay. This woman loved it because it gave her the nuturing that she failed to get from her parents. In speaking with her she shared how many of her emotional and psychological needs were met. She hasnt spoken about the sexual nature of the relationship, and Ive yet to ask as we are just beginning to know each other by phone. But we will be meeting in a few weeks and perhaps she will open up and volunteer, or I may ask her depending on how comfy she feels. Neither of us are sexual until we see ourselves meeting someone who might be considered for a long term relationship in real life. If we both agree we have enough things in common and are compatible, I would have no problems with ageplay; however I would have to discuss this in detail with her prior to being sexual and set some guidelines and limits for both of us. Hope this helps.

EsotericLady -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 1:26:05 PM)
As in "firsthand" I have been in that kind of relationship than no, I have not. As for learning/knowing only one kind of daddy/babygirl relationship? I honestly am not concerned about it nor going to lose any sleep over it. quote: ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw EL, Then you don't have very much experience with daddy / baby girl relationships. I have and am part of several large groups for daddy / baby girls in both California and Maryland and the majority if not all of those that I have EVER meet are exactly how I described the relationships. Even the Daddy/baby girls I know from this forum. Don't consider themselves father / daughter. quote: ORIGINAL: EsotericLady LilSquaw? With all due respect for YOUR Daddy relationship, I'm afraid I must admit that I've never seen a relationship as yours...(see what I quoted you as saying below) before. I've seen it both with baby girls and with littles. R/L. They most surely DID consider themselves father and child. As for screwing, they most certainly did and broadcasted that they did.. as father and daughter. Sorry but...(shrugs)...I haven't seen it any other way.

TwoHeartsBeatOne -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 1:26:19 PM)
No, I really am NOT here seeking agreement. Agreement to my questions??? Granted, I see I should have been more precise and not used Daddy Doms in general, and should have specified about incest/age players only. But, I was thinking that some people say Daddy Doms are sexual, some not, some age play, some not, some incest play, some not... this is not easy stuff to sort out. I'm trying to learn. What I've learned so far from the responses is that what I thought a Daddy Dom/girl relationship was, is what most people here are describing. This is different than what the Daddy Dom I loved really was. He had years of experience and I was new, so I felt very confused. You know how the notion that anything between consenting adults is acceptable in BDSM? Okay, not so much things like amputation, death, etc... there ARE limits. This set of questions comes from that confusion. Okay, you say I encountered a sick fuck. Is he a sick fuck because he is attracted to kids - period? If so, why is he a sick fuck for those unchosen sexual feelings when someone with another kink is accepted, even though they both play with consenting adults? You might expect me to hate this guy, but I feel something more akin to compassion. I'm not asking for others to feel the same. I am asking, "Where's that line?" When people say not to judge other's kinks just because it isn't your kink... is there a general agreement that Daddy Doms (incest/age players) cannot be sexually excited by taboo thoughts and fantasies and role play, even if they only engage with other adults? quote: ORIGINAL: Lynnxz quote: ORIGINAL: TwoHeartsBeatOne I really appreciate the time and thought people are putting into this topic, but I am still waiting for more people to offer their answers to the questions I've asked in my OP. It's a lot to consider, but perhaps answering even one of the original 7 would be great. You have some very extensive, well thought out replies by several members. Are you just waiting for someone to jump in with you and agree with you? What YOU encountered was a sick fuck. I would not apply this label to any of the age players I have met, even though I have encountered relatively few.

MommySparkles -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 1:28:13 PM)
I should add in my opinion to this. Daddy & Mommy Domming is done with legal consenting adults. Whatever is roleplayed they are still legal and consenting. Pedophiles target children which is not only sick but completely illegal. That is the difference.

Notsweet -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 1:30:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MommySparkles I should add in my opinion to this. Daddy & Mommy Domming is done with legal consenting adults. Whatever is roleplayed they are still legal and consenting. Pedophiles target children which is not only sick but completely illegal. That is the difference. This^^^ answers the original question. Period.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 1:31:48 PM)
I think what she is saying is that some people have evil thoughts. Hell, I'll go one further and say that all people have evil thoughts of some type or another. What separates a decent human being from a 2-legged animal that needs to be caged is the ability to understand that these thoughts are inappropriate and should not under any circumstances be acted upon. Pedophiles are frequently victims of abuse themselves. They have evil thoughts. SOME of them are capable of not EVER acting upon those thoughts. Athena is saying that those people should be commended because no matter what they WANT to do, they understand that it is wrong to act upon it and they would rather live their entire life in misery or commit suicide than hurt a child. quote: ORIGINAL: EsotericLady You'll have to excuse me, but this paragraph is beyond any amount of logic or emotional tenderness I can fathom!!! quote: ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders I am absolutely sympathetic to any person who finds themself wired this way and does not act on it. What a difficult life that must be! Imagine the difficulty in removing yourself from temptation, the loneliness of knowing you will likely never have an intimate relationship, the fear of others finding out and the backlash. I don't know what sort of help is out there for these people, but I'm guessing not much. People don't want to help paedophiles, even good paedophiles. In much of the UK, if you feel like you might abuse your partner or you have committed domestic abuse and you want to join a program to help you change your behaviour, you won't be eligible unless you have been convicted. There is little to no help for people who are trying to work on their issues without being forced. I imagine it is the same for paedophiles - you can't just go to Paedophiles anonymous. And if you could, would people go or would they be afraid of being outed? All in all, it's a horrible situation.

wittynamehere -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 1:38:09 PM)
I like to assume that nobody is really this stupid and poorly informed, but you never know I guess. If you're just acting stupid so you can troll the forum, congrats, you got several pages of replies. But if you're really just that dumb: quote: ORIGINAL: TwoHeartsBeatOne I’m feeling paralyzed by fear. I don’t even know where to turn for answers. Paralyzed and yet, you managed to write up a long post. I guess you found out where to turn for answers?! quote: ORIGINAL: TwoHeartsBeatOne Is a Daddy Dom a pedophile? You could have saved yourself some time by using a dictionary, wikipedia, or other free resouces to look up the definitions of those terms. You can't afford our time - do your own googling! But to answer your question, yes, a "daddy dom" and a "pedophile" are exactly the same thing. I have no idea why they bothered to make up 2 terms for the same definition. [/sarcasm] quote: ORIGINAL: TwoHeartsBeatOne Daddy Doms and pedophiles “groom” the focus of their attention, using praise, gifts.. Some do, some don't. You could say the same thing about all dominant people (they may give praise or rewards to the person they're interested in). Hell, you could say the same thing about EVERYBODY entering into a relationship. It's not exclusive to "daddy doms" and "pedophiles", as much as you'd like to claim. Hell, when I was 25 and vanilla, I dated a 29 year old vanilla woman. I used praise, compliments, and gifts. Want to lump me in with pedophiles for that? quote: ORIGINAL: TwoHeartsBeatOne As an aging human, how does it feel to be with a guy who is attracted to a look – an illusion – that will become more difficult to create with each passing day? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I see what your problem is. You're old, and feel threatened and inadequate, so you attempt to make those who are into things like family play and/or age play seem like immoral twisted criminals. Nice try. quote: ORIGINAL: TwoHeartsBeatOne What is being done already to protect innocents from harm? You're not aware that it's illegal to have sexual relationship with someone who is incapable of giving informed consent? Holy crap. I think it's YOU who is dangerous to society, not those you're trying to smear. Yikes! Stay far away from me, lady.

TwoHeartsBeatOne -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 1:39:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders quote: ORIGINAL: TwoHeartsBeatOne What is being done already to protect innocents from harm? (This is at the core of what frightens me… is there a difference, if so, how can we tell?) Wow. Why don't you just ask what is protecting people on the street because I'm a sadist and that must mean that I want to harm anyone that I come across? I enjoy inflicting pain, so that must relate that I am out to inflict it on anyone and everyone. I do pay attention to safety issues "on the street" and do my part to contribute. I'm not really concerned about internet relationships and safety... my focus is more on what happens after meeting in R/L. In my experience, sadists have been the most responsible, empathetic and emotionally generous group I've encountered in BDSM. I think that is because they take the most risks and have a need to know the effects of their actions upon others. Just a guess... So, no, I'm not thinking that sadists want to harm anyone! I really don't follow your reasoning on this point. Am I missing something here? I think you are missing something here. You have met lots of sadists and found them, as a group, to be responsible, empathetic and emotionally generous. You have found this despite the fact they like to hurt people, for fun or for sexual arousal. From the outside looking in, people might look at a sadist and think 'wow, what a dangerous person! They must want to harm people' but you know, from personal experience, that this is not the case. Enjoying pain-play in a sexual context does not mean they enjoy inflicting pain on unconsenting people. So the point LadyPact is making is that by assuming a Daddy Dom, who likes to pretend play that his partner is younger when they are in the bedroom, also wants to carry out sex acts on actual children, is the equivalent of saying a sadist wants to inflict pain on random people. If all children need protecting from daddydoms, then people must also need protecting from sexual sadists. Okay, I think I see what I missed here. I'm not saying that Daddy Doms are pedophiles. I'm asking if some types of Daddy Doms are psychologically pedophiles. A Daddy Dom who is an incest/age-player... am I even saying that right yet?, is acting out sexual feelings for an under-aged person & / or family member? I'm not referring to things like coloring books. I'm talking about role-play that is sexual AND involves family &/or minors.

TheLilSquaw -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 1:45:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TwoHeartsBeatOne A Daddy Dom who is an incest/age-player... am I even saying that right yet?, is acting out sexual feelings for an under-aged person & / or family member? I'm not referring to things like coloring books. I'm talking about role-play that is sexual AND involves family &/or minors. It is simply THAT role playing. It is no different than role playing student / teacher, cop / robber, pimp / hooker, ect.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 1:59:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TwoHeartsBeatOne Okay, I think I see what I missed here. I'm not saying that Daddy Doms are pedophiles. I'm asking if some types of Daddy Doms are psychologically pedophiles. A Daddy Dom who is an incest/age-player... am I even saying that right yet?, is acting out sexual feelings for an under-aged person & / or family member? I'm not referring to things like coloring books. I'm talking about role-play that is sexual AND involves family &/or minors. I'll give an analogy. Years ago, I was a wrestling coach and I had been a 4x national qualifier when I competed. I enjoyed 'takedown play' up to and including penetration. Does that make me psychologically a rapist? I'll say no.

AthenaSurrenders -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 2:07:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TwoHeartsBeatOne Okay, I think I see what I missed here. I'm not saying that Daddy Doms are pedophiles. I'm asking if some types of Daddy Doms are psychologically pedophiles. A Daddy Dom who is an incest/age-player... am I even saying that right yet?, is acting out sexual feelings for an under-aged person & / or family member? I'm not referring to things like coloring books. I'm talking about role-play that is sexual AND involves family &/or minors. No. A Daddy Dom who is an incest/age player is acting out sexual feelings TOWARDS HIS CONSENTING ADULT SEXUAL PARTNER and not towards a relative and/or under-aged person. It just so happens they are flavouring their sexual encounter with this role play. The sexual feelings are for the sexual partner. Whether they are dressing up as superheros, pretending to be teacher and student, covering each other in honey and flour, or reciting extracts from The Iliad whilst doing it doggy style, they are expressing their sexual feelings towards each other. It's just that they have chosen to do it in a particular way which feels good to them. Remember the comparison to sadists? Remember how a person can be a sadist and a lovely, upstanding member of society? How enjoying inflicting pain for sexy-fun-time does not mean they secretly want to abuse their partners? Same thing applies. I'm not sure how you can understand one and be baffled by the other.

cordeliasub -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 2:19:39 PM)
After reading what the OP went through in her relationship, I think I understand now where some of her apprehension comes from. I would not really consider that man a Daddy Dom - especially not his reaction to an 8 year old in a commercial. I would consider that more in the "creepy pervert" category. I joined a BDSM site as a relative newbie and began talking some with an "experienced Dom" who said he did the daddy thing. Once he found out I had a teenage daughter (which he gleaned in between calling me C*nt slut and trying to order me to eat poop)....he became fixated on whether or not SHE was submissive and would I bring her when I came to see him...... HE wasn't a Daddy either - HE most certainly would fall into the creepy pervert category. In fact, had I not been so wigged out by it....I should have dug for more info about him and reported his ass. I am so sorry that you had a very upsetting experience with this man - but don't let him factor into your internal definition of Daddy Doms. Sadly, anywhere you go, you can find the occasional creepo trying to use a lifestyle or kink to mask his....creepo-ness.

Longerthanyou -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 2:31:00 PM)
Personally, I think nature designed juvenile animals to have absolutely no secondary sexual characteristics - and that is how it should be. An old stallion lusting after a yearling colt wouldn't get all that far in nature.

thishereboi -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 2:52:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EsotericLady First of all, there is no complete and successful treatment for pedophilia. A person may learn to better manage his actions, but once a pedo, always a pedo. Secondly, it has been proven that although the mental health institution deems someone extremely likely to reoffend and a serious risk to someone's life, that pedophile is still being released back into society. Thirdly, although you claim no sex with your Daddy, I recall not long ago a thread you started in which you asked for ideas to turn your Daddy on for "sexy time." I've also read in more than one of your posts some very detailed scenarios of your sex life with your Daddy. quote: ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom The desire to molest children at any age, should be something the person seeks treatment for, not replacing the desires by acting it out on adults... they do need mental help and maybe to be locked up for the rest of their lives if they're the sort that is super dangerous and can not be turned around. I forgot to mention earlier when I go to my child space we don't have sex or kinky interactions. It's to us akin to sexual abuse, I have been there, done that got the emotional scars, regression is my safe place away from adult cares. All though I o have to be totally honest, sexual age play and incest fantasies and rape play are huge fantasies of mine in the adult kink world. Some of that may have come from being molested very early in my formative years. I still wouldn't want someone who lusted after real children and used me as his proxy. I don't even think that's quite possible. As children and adults do not have the same qualities that a pedo would like. And there's just some things you can not fake. quote: ORIGINAL: TwoHeartsBeatOne Judgmental? Really? Did you read the part where I posit that if a pedophile channels that desire into age-play with another adult, that they just might be a kind of hero? Please think about what kind of non-judgmental heart can think of another human being like that, when most want to just kill them. To elaborate... my request that we not discuss the defense of the kink is because I am not saying there is anything wrong with the kink. I'm aware that the Daddy Dom being equated with a reviled pedophile is a long-standing misconception - one I don't have. That conversation has been done and redone. I am asking something else. Your very first sentence answers one of my questions. Thank you for your response. I appreciate your candor, Toppingfrmbottom. She said she doesn't have sex with him when she is in her "kid space" Doesn't mean she doesn't ever have sex with him. My ex was my Daddi and sex was a hard limit when we were interacting that way. And since my Daddi was female and 12 years younger than me, I really don't think pedo had anything to do with her desire to play that way.

TwoHeartsBeatOne -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 3:26:07 PM)
Hi Winterapple quote: ORIGINAL: Winterapple FR I'm into pet play. Does that make my partner a beastialist? If your partner is sexually excited by thinking of screwing a beast, then yes, that makes your partner a beastialist, I would think. Granted, that's a new thought for me and I'm open to more information. I don't think a person has to actually DO the things that sexually excite them to BE of that ilk. Along those lines... I have a problem with the thought of eating shit. That is highly erotic for some people. No matter how much I respect others and their preferences, I will never be able to sexualize eating shit. The "kink" has to have something in it that resonates with me. So, my original question, "Is a Daddy Dom a pedophile psychologically?" simply doesn't seem like a stretch. Of course, I am referring to age players/incest players. Must I never leave him alone with the cats lest he molest one of them? I don't think so. Because no matter how deep I am into my feline mindset, no matter if I'm wearing my ears, my tail butt plug, my little collar with my bell that alerts the birdies, have my whiskers painted on and my cat eye lenses in, I am always a human being. There is no by proxy fucking going on. He's fucking me role playing and getting off on getting my kitty groove on. He has no ill designs on animals. It's also only one of the ways I express my sexuality. The OP seems to be confusing several things including pedos and chicken hawks. A pedo is only attracted to those who have not gone through puberty. A pedo cannot not channel his compulsion into an adult. Are you aware that there are some who are sexually excited by the genitalia being shaven/waxed to the pre-pubescent look? How do we know that this is not one aspect of a pedo channeling a compulsion onto an adult? If pedos and rapist could channel their desires into consensual adult surrogates then legalized adult prostitution would be a very effective tool against two of societies great ills. Only it isn't. Okay, that just lost me altogether. Most prostitutes began as exploited children. It's a booming industry and it's a wicked circle. Even so, I hold hope that pedos and rapists CAN channel their desires into consensual adult surrogate relationships. But, that won't happen until people let them communicate their desires and show them alternative outlets. Such as, a Daddy/daughter Dom who gets hard thinking about molestation and then acts out the fantasy with an adult while envisioning the taboo behavior? There are people, male and female, straight and gay who like partners who are barely legal. Most with this preference don't involve themselves with people their age. These relationships can be exploitive, manipulative and pathetic. But so can a host of other human relationships. If the younger partner is legal then it's an adult relationship. No adult even a very young one can be physically a child and unless they are challenged they can't be mentally one either In my experience the Daddy Doms I know aren't age players or if they are there's not a sexual aspect. Most age players and incest players I know of are into a variety of kinks. But even if there is a sexual component to the age play it is still play. Keyword here is play, meaning not real. You know that guy in Austria who locked his daughter up in a dungeon and raped her for years? That guy wasn't playing. Pedos and rapist aren't interested in substitutes or surrogates. They want sugar not Sweet n' Low. Fantasy is fantasy. Play is play. A well adjusted person can have dark desires and explore them with a consensual adult partner to their mutual satisfaction. I think that no one wants to be related to a pedophile. I think that they are so reviled, that even in the world of fantasy and thought, people do not want to think that they are associated with one. Even here, there has been disagreement about what age play involves. Look back at how many posts say that Daddy Doms don't usually engage in age play, and that on the rare occasion it does happen, they don't sexualize that play. What strikes me is the lack of incest/age player, Daddy Doms who contributed their point of view. I think they are afraid to.

TwoHeartsBeatOne -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 3:30:39 PM)
Thank you. Yes, I can see that nurturing can be one of the benefits of any D/s relationship. Age play also seems to feel great to many. Just like rape play, I would imagine that incest play *may be* beneficial, as well. Although, great care would be required, as in rape re-enactment scenarios. My questions definitely address the sexualization of age play, so that part would matter. quote: ORIGINAL: LeatherBentOne51 OP Sorry you have these misgivings. Ive been speaking to a woman who has been in a BDSM relationship that was centered around ageplay. This woman loved it because it gave her the nuturing that she failed to get from her parents. In speaking with her she shared how many of her emotional and psychological needs were met. She hasnt spoken about the sexual nature of the relationship, and Ive yet to ask as we are just beginning to know each other by phone. But we will be meeting in a few weeks and perhaps she will open up and volunteer, or I may ask her depending on how comfy she feels. Neither of us are sexual until we see ourselves meeting someone who might be considered for a long term relationship in real life. If we both agree we have enough things in common and are compatible, I would have no problems with ageplay; however I would have to discuss this in detail with her prior to being sexual and set some guidelines and limits for both of us. Hope this helps.

TwoHeartsBeatOne -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 3:33:38 PM)
Exactly! And that is what I believe. So, when I asked about Daddy Doms (and I should have specified - incest/and or age-playing Daddy Doms) sharing the psychology of pedophiles, I meant it with no judgment towards any pedophile who isn't hurting children! quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam I think what she is saying is that some people have evil thoughts. Hell, I'll go one further and say that all people have evil thoughts of some type or another. What separates a decent human being from a 2-legged animal that needs to be caged is the ability to understand that these thoughts are inappropriate and should not under any circumstances be acted upon. Pedophiles are frequently victims of abuse themselves. They have evil thoughts. SOME of them are capable of not EVER acting upon those thoughts. Athena is saying that those people should be commended because no matter what they WANT to do, they understand that it is wrong to act upon it and they would rather live their entire life in misery or commit suicide than hurt a child. quote: ORIGINAL: EsotericLady You'll have to excuse me, but this paragraph is beyond any amount of logic or emotional tenderness I can fathom!!! quote: ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders I am absolutely sympathetic to any person who finds themself wired this way and does not act on it. What a difficult life that must be! Imagine the difficulty in removing yourself from temptation, the loneliness of knowing you will likely never have an intimate relationship, the fear of others finding out and the backlash. I don't know what sort of help is out there for these people, but I'm guessing not much. People don't want to help paedophiles, even good paedophiles. In much of the UK, if you feel like you might abuse your partner or you have committed domestic abuse and you want to join a program to help you change your behaviour, you won't be eligible unless you have been convicted. There is little to no help for people who are trying to work on their issues without being forced. I imagine it is the same for paedophiles - you can't just go to Paedophiles anonymous. And if you could, would people go or would they be afraid of being outed? All in all, it's a horrible situation.

TwoHeartsBeatOne -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 3:39:53 PM)
Okay, I can't answer your question. I accept your answer, though. Not to avoid it... I'll repeat this analogy. Cops and robbers Daddy Dom age players/incest players and pedophiles. The Daddy Doms would be the cops, the pedophiles would be the robbers. While both cops and robbers love adrenaline, have street smarts and live outside of the common laws, cops have consent (public trust which gives them authority) and robbers don't because they violate the rights of others. Daddy Doms age/players & incest players have consent! Pedophiles do not! Still, do they share the same turn-ons? quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: TwoHeartsBeatOne Okay, I think I see what I missed here. I'm not saying that Daddy Doms are pedophiles. I'm asking if some types of Daddy Doms are psychologically pedophiles. A Daddy Dom who is an incest/age-player... am I even saying that right yet?, is acting out sexual feelings for an under-aged person & / or family member? I'm not referring to things like coloring books. I'm talking about role-play that is sexual AND involves family &/or minors. I'll give an analogy. Years ago, I was a wrestling coach and I had been a 4x national qualifier when I competed. I enjoyed 'takedown play' up to and including penetration. Does that make me psychologically a rapist? I'll say no.

TwoHeartsBeatOne -> RE: Daddy Dom? Pedophile? The difference is....? (2/6/2013 3:46:58 PM)
Thank you, Everyone for your responses. I have a lot to think about. I also want to say that with the exception of two posters out of soooo many, I once again feel my trust in the collective "You" has been warranted. There's a lot of class here. :)

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