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tazzygirl -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/8/2013 6:52:46 AM)
Except that the Rabbit was hugging children after refusing to hug these two.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/8/2013 7:08:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk Well addressing your last "imagine".......then do your fucking job. Your job as white bunny in disneyland is to keep the kids happy. Not doing it would be pretty stupid don't you think? On this, DYB, we completely agree.

muhly22222 -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/8/2013 7:38:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady Here's the thing with the "not asking for money" angle. This would be a civil suit for personal injury of sorts. Lawyers take those on contingency, meaning they get a portion of the award. No attorney is going to take a case for an apology with no monetary award, unless the family is paying out of pocket. Few people have the funds for a lawsuit that gets them nothing but an apology, but saying that is all you want makes great headlines. I'm not going to say the cast member in the rabbit suit was racist or not, and neither should anyone else. On this site, most of the people here are quick to tell OPs' in other sections that we don't know both sides of the story, why should here be any different? Yes, racism exists, but every time a black person comes on the news saying they were the victim of racism, everyone tends to automatically agree without hearing both sides, and the fact is that it isn't always an act of racism. ETA: The whole "hush" money thing is indicative of you not understanding how these companies work. Anything that happens, they try to do something to make the customer, or visitor in this case, happy. This comes in the form of free tickets or monetary compensation. I have had things happen to me at an amusement park due to my disability and was offered free tickets. I'm sure if I pushed the situation, a monetary compensation would have been offered. I took the tickets. One other fact that wasn't immediately apparent (to me) from the story is whether the actor ever saw the children. I didn't watch the video (slow internet connection), but I do know that a number of mascot costumes (which would be similar to what the actor was wearing) are very difficult to see out of and only offer a limited range of vision. This isn't saying he wasn't being racist, just that it's a possibility. Also, the story didn't say who pushed the older child away. The people who handle these characters are often rather pushy, and if it was a handler who pushed the child away, it wasn't really the White Rabbit being racist. The idea of "hush money" being a sign of wrongdoing is ridiculous. Even if somebody filed a lawsuit against Disney that had absolutely zero merit, it would still cost Disney more to defend than a simple $500/$1000 money payment. If Disney can make a potential black hole in the budget disappear through a relatively small payment, they will, and so would any major corporation.

cordeliasub -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/8/2013 7:52:09 AM)
When my kids were young, we waited in line so my daughter could get a hug and picture made with Belle.. Sadly, her scheduled time was up right before my daughter's turn, so no picture. But in this case apparently the bunny said no and then afterward hugged other kids. This person was paid to do a job, which includes interacting with ALL kids. They have the freedom to choose not to - and Disney has the freedom to fire them for not doing their job. And I have to echo what lilsquaw (I think it was) said - I taught primary and elementary school kids for 15 years, and in that time I also taught self-contained severely disable kids who doused me with all manner of body fluids regularly. That was part of the job. If I didn't want kids hugging me with runny noses, then I didn't need to be at an elementary school. if this guy didn't want to hug kids in various states of disarray or various colors, he didn't need to become a designated costumed hugger. Not to mention the idea that it was going to hurt him to hug someone of a different skin color while wearing a stinking huge costume is just...stupid. But then again, it is my opinion that racists aren't generally known for their high IQ's....or any other redeeming qualities.

PeonForHer -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/8/2013 7:53:13 AM)
quote: Hell, I have seen Santa pissed on! Your BDSM clubs out there sound like such fun!

absolutchocolat -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/8/2013 7:53:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Switcheroo1983 http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/black-family-claims-disney-white-rabbit-character-refused-180034301--finance.html Interesting. They declined the VIP passes, and $500 bucks. They don't appear (from the article, at least) to be suing for money, just principle. Disney, historically, has put out really racist, sexist, and jingoistic images dressed up in cool colors and graphics and stupid humor. Not surprising, but sad nonetheless. Poor family. quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: Hell, I have seen Santa pissed on! Your BDSM clubs out there sound like such fun! and a short musical interlude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeNhjPaP53I

DomKen -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/8/2013 10:22:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: muhly22222 One other fact that wasn't immediately apparent (to me) from the story is whether the actor ever saw the children. I didn't watch the video (slow internet connection), but I do know that a number of mascot costumes (which would be similar to what the actor was wearing) are very difficult to see out of and only offer a limited range of vision. This isn't saying he wasn't being racist, just that it's a possibility. Also, the story didn't say who pushed the older child away. The people who handle these characters are often rather pushy, and if it was a handler who pushed the child away, it wasn't really the White Rabbit being racist. I worked at DisneyWorld as a teenager. Back then, early 80's, the costume heads were next to impossible to see out of. The eye hole was usually in the mouth of the head no matter how tall you were. The handlers were necessary to guide the person in the costume and to make sure you kept to the schedule. The handler was also the one who poised the costume wearer and the kids for photos. In a costume you literally could not see anyone under about 5 foot close up. The park was saturated with cameras so if anything happened, parents blamed the staff for everything, the bosses could see exactly what happened. So I'm skeptical about the details of this incident.

TheLilSquaw -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/8/2013 11:09:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: Hell, I have seen Santa pissed on! Your BDSM clubs out there sound like such fun! LMFCAO

thishereboi -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/8/2013 11:15:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire Having been to Disney many times, there is something else that is possible that no one has mentioned. The characters have scheduled visit times, and then they are ushered away. Once their time is up, their handlers often have to turn away children who want to have photos and hugs and the like to keep things on schedule. Regardless of the children in question, Disney is a business and in that business they keep schedules. If this family were trying after that time that the character is recalled, then the White Rabbit would have gone back into character (explaining the "impatient" behavior, the White Rabbit when not seeing people is late for a very important date and acts it.") and left to alow the handlers to meet the next character on their way out and essentially change shifts. The most important thing about being a disney character at a park is not to break character. The Villains, when not in a meet and greet, are not huggy and cute, they will growl at the kids or act haughty. The White Rabbit is in a hurry. I think this may be a very major misunderstanding of how things work at Disney from a family that jumped to a complaint of racism right off. Yes, you are right, when their time is up another employee comes and ushers them away. They also explain to anyone waiting that the rabbit has to go. In this case the family stuck around and watched the rabbit greet more kids. No one was leading him away. I can't believe Disney hasn't handled this already. The guy or girl in the suit is paid to make the kids happy, and that means treating them all the same. They didn't do their job and should be fired for it.

PeonForHer -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/8/2013 3:41:33 PM)
FR Just checked the link. The aggrieved black family involved are Mr and Mrs Black and children. However, the spokeswoman from Disney isn't called Ms White, she's called Ms Brown. Can't you Americans at least sort out a bit more symmetry with your social iniquities?

thishereboi -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/8/2013 3:47:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer FR Just checked the link. The aggrieved black family involved are Mr and Mrs Black and children. However, the spokeswoman from Disney isn't called Ms White, she's called Ms Brown. Can't you Americans at least sort out a bit more symmetry with your social iniquities? According to the article their last name is Black and the spokeswoman's last name is Brown. My best friends last name was White. We called her mom Mrs. White because that was her name, not because she also happened to be white.

PeonForHer -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/8/2013 3:54:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi My best friends last name was White. We called her mom Mrs. White because that was her name, not because she also happened to be white. That sounds both appropriate and very sensible of you, THB.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/8/2013 6:42:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Switcheroo1983 http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/black-family-claims-disney-white-rabbit-character-refused-180034301--finance.html Interesting. They declined the VIP passes, and $500 bucks. They don't appear (from the article, at least) to be suing for money, just principle. Right. Rights reserved.....Stupid shit. (As always...where is Reverend Sharpton when you need him?)

LafayetteLady -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/8/2013 10:44:44 PM)
Looks like the attorney is going for a class action: Look towards the end of the article.

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/8/2013 10:55:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: midmichiganguy Now imagine what would be said if the person in the bunny outfit was the same race as the person who did not get the hug and felt slighted by it. What then? In that case, you'd get fired for poor customer service. Your job, is to keep kids happy!!!!!

tazzygirl -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/8/2013 10:58:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady Looks like the attorney is going for a class action: Look towards the end of the article. Should be interesting.

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/8/2013 11:18:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi My best friends last name was White. We called her mom Mrs. White because that was her name, not because she also happened to be white. That sounds both appropriate and very sensible of you, THB. Laughing

mons -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/9/2013 6:35:59 AM)
It is something to see that no one and when your not a person of color, you have not a clue as to when weknow but many of you do not even see it ! So sad but true, walk a mile in our shoes, and watch what happens! Oh my word Diunrbalvaampire That is so rich he had to leave! You must be a black to understand what truely happens the hurt the embarraessment yes it hurts. Read more please best regard Mons

Kirata -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/9/2013 9:44:51 AM)
~ FR ~ Granted the guy is either racist or phobic, I still think the topic title is unfair to rabbits. K.

erieangel -> RE: Racist Rabbit at Disneyland? (2/9/2013 12:25:21 PM)
That argument doesn't fit the story of the rabbit hugging and taking pictures with other kids at the time the black kids were ignored. As for the claim that there will some monetary civil award, etc. My son recently was accused of shop lifting at a Walmart (he wasn't). The night manager just got his panties in a bunch when my son refused to pay for a jeans ripped when he tried them on. After half an hour in hand cuffs, which were removed when the state police, a trooper who actually knows my son, arrived. The manager was mean, nasty and belligerent for 2 hours. The next day, my son contacted corporate headquarters and within 30 minutes he got a call from a district manager who apologized to him and told him that both the night manager and the store manager were being let go (it seems the store manager hired his unqualified brother-in-law as night manager, which was against the rules). My son and I both would have preferred a public apology, but he's happy with the results. Neither of us shop at Walmart often, but we will both run in there for small things once in while. This incident reminded him why we never buy clothes there.

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