MrRodgers
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The thing is that when you point out that conspiracy theories are compensatory fantasies for people unwilling to accept that any of their shit in their life might be their own fault rather than the result of the Conspiracy picking on them because they know what's really going on, that upsets the conspiratists and they get all arsey...
Some conspiracy theories are not fantasies especially if they are true. Most conspiracies have nothing to do with anybody lack of self-esteem or success and usually without and grounds whatsoever for such a distinction. To suggest id a fear they may be correct in their theory. My who point is that the world's greatest conspiracies turned out...to be true.
Think ya are exaggerating the controversy over tha earth being spherical. many academics through tha ages accepted it openly for a long time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth
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A very recent essay by Leone Montagnini, discussing the question of the shape of the Earth from the origins to the late Antiquity, has shown that the Fathers of the Church shared different approaches that paralleled their overall philosophical and theological visions. Those of them who were more close to Platonic visions, like Origen, shared peacefully the geosphericism. A second tradition, including Basil, Ambrose and Augustine, but also Philoponus, accepted the idea of the round Earth and the radial gravity, but in a critical way. In particular they pointed out a number of doubts about the physical reasons of the radial gravity, and hesitated in accepting the physical reasons proposed by Aristotle or Stoicism. However, a "flattist" approach was more or less shared by all the Fathers coming from the Syriac area, who were more inclined to follow the letter of the Old Testament. Diodorus, Severian, and Cosmas Indicopleustes, but also Chrysostom, belonged just to this latter tradition.[79]
At least one early Christian writer, Basil of Caesarea (329–379), believed that the matter was theologically irrelevant.[80] ...
With the end of Roman civilization, Western Europe entered the Middle Ages with great difficulties that affected the continent's intellectual production. Most scientific treatises of classical antiquity (in Greek) were unavailable, leaving only simplified summaries and compilations. Still, many textbooks of the Early Middle Ages supported the sphericity of the Earth. For example: some early medieval manuscripts of Macrobius include maps of the Earth, including the antipodes, zonal maps showing the Ptolemaic climates derived from the concept of a spherical Earth and a diagram showing the Earth (labeled as globus terrae, the sphere of the Earth) at the center of the hierarchically ordered planetary spheres.[81] Further examples of such medieval diagrams can be found in medieval manuscripts of the Dream of Scipio. In the Carolingian era, scholars discussed Macrobius's view of the antipodes. One of them, the Irish monk Dungal, asserted that the tropical gap between our habitable region and the other habitable region to the south was smaller than Macrobius had believed
Oh there was thought about the earth being round but that's not what power in govt. or church would allow the schools to teach or...society at large to believe. An objective look at the history of research in the possibility of science and math proving the church and power the truth, there was resistance until finally people actually thought Columbus and his crew to be incredibly brave souls...attempting to sail to and maybe past the edge of the world.
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