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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Not really, no.
If they couldn't keep the one quiet, then they couldn't draw a discreet veil over the other, either.
Not unless we're proposing a whole shadow government who keep the people you've elected to run the country in the dark as they pursue their own sinister agenda, of course...

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MrRodgers: So Hillary was the alpha hey? Well one would have to assume. Or did Monica force Hillary to bring in the republican guard . . .?

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

There are some mental health professionals and therapists that consider the belief in conspiracy theories a form of psychosis.

Conspiracy Theory: Chronic Psychoses in Contemporary Metafiction

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"Pronoia is the positive counterpart of paranoia. It is the delusion that others think well of one. Actions and the products of one's efforts are thought to be well received and praised by others. Mere acquaintances are thought to be close friends; politeness and the exchange of pleasantries are taken as expressions of deep attachment and the promise of future support. Pronoia appears rooted in the social complexity and cultural ambiguity of our lives: we have become increasingly dependent on the opinions of others based on uncertain criteria."

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ORIGINAL: leonine

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Not really, no.
If they couldn't keep the one quiet, then they couldn't draw a discreet veil over the other, either.
Not unless we're proposing a whole shadow government who keep the people you've elected to run the country in the dark as they pursue their own sinister agenda, of course...

Some years ago I was buttonholed on a crowded commuter train by a guy handing out DVDs about the TRUTH about 9/11. I was still with him when he explained that the real reason for the conspiracy was that Rumsfelt was a shape-shifting alien. But when he went on to tell me that everyone who had tried to expose the truth had been mysteriously killed, I'm like... and you're here alive because?

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ORIGINAL: Rule

The follow up by people in a conspiracy is to discredit anyone who asserts that there was a conspiracy. One of the methods used is putting people on the street who either are nutjobs or who are pretending to be nutjobs and have them assert crazy conspiracy theories.

So maybe the fellow you met was a nutjob, in which case it would be interesting to know where he got his ideas.

Or maybe he was pretending to be a nutjob, in which case it would be interesting to know his identity and what people he associated with - like maybe his uncle was an agent for one of them three letter agencies, or a banker, or a politician, or one of them people who were on one of the two planes that never existed, or on one of the two other planes that landed safely elsewhere.

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WantsOfTheFlesh: ya [Rule] say there was never a relationship between monica & slick willy. . do ya know if willy was gettin' his ___ slicked elsewhere?

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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

a bit too up to date maybe but that meteor that hit Russia the other day has to be the start of a day of the triffids/war of the worlds/starship troopers kinda thing surely? Either that or it was the missing piece of Realone's brain doing an epic fail on re entry?

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
here is april gallop

this interview where she says there were NO PLANE PARTS in or near that whole in the pentagon.

OIthers said it smelled like cordite.


She since sued and impeached herself she is still alive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88JQL4esHFg

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

a bit too up to date maybe but that meteor that hit Russia the other day has to be the start of a day of the triffids/war of the worlds/starship troopers kinda thing surely? Either that or it was the missing piece of Realone's brain doing an epic fail on re entry?

awe are you all bwoke up over r1 always posting PROOF, aint life a bitch!

But then you like shit hole politics dont you?


ou will never believe what happened in court today.

They argued before an appellate panel of three judges: Judge Ralph Winter, Judge Marina Corodemus (a potential SCOTUS (Supreme Court Of The United States) nomination), and Judge John Walker (all Yale law school grads). Of course, Ms. Gallop’s attorneys filed for dismissal of Judge John Walker, which was denied. Clearly, they do not care that the judge hearing the case suing the former Vice President is the former President’s cousin. Ms. Gallop’s attorney’s then made a motion for an appellate review of their decision to keep Judge Walker on the case, which was also denied. And the whole time in court, the arguments of Ms. Gallop’s attorneys were completely ignored and instead were questioned with very demeaning inquiries by the judges, such as:

Do you even have a law degree?
From what law school?
Are you licensed to practice in the 2nd Circuit?
Have you ever represented a client in the 2nd Circuit? etc.

Ms. Gallop’s attorneys plan to file a petition for a re-hearing en banc to appeal to all judges in the case to agree to accept the case. If that gets denied, they will file Cert with with SCOTUS, which will probably also be denied.

I’ve got to say, I’m rather disappointed in our legal system today. But it definitely makes for a very controversial and interesting topic discussion.

Sources:

Attorney William Veale, co-counsel for April Gallop


first of all you would demand the judge recuse himself, not file for a dismissal. If the guy who did this story is correct and they in fact filed for dismissal they would have had to do it knowing that is improper procedure and would not get it.

aint life grand!

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

Nothing beats Roosevelt's success in getting Americans to believe that Pearl Harbor was attacked by Japanese warplanes in 1941. The truth has come to light. The whole thing was produced on a Hollywood movie set with the additional use of computer generated effects. The slip-up came when someone noticed [after a careful study of the Zapruder sequences] the split second appearance of John Wayne manning an anti-aircraft gun onYo one of the alleged destroyers at anchor in the bay. It wasn't until the 1980s that the Government finally stopped denying they had computers back in 1941. Sheesh!

Well you believed them and have since 12/41. So you too are a flat worlder and think [it] the center of all things universal. Yea, I just wouldn't believe govt. or the church or much of anybody else on either on those. The world is in fact flat and the ultimate center of all things.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
I have asked one of these conspiracy nuts for some evidence to back his claim "Al Qaida" was a Jewish organisation.

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I was the first to publish the true facts regarding Hillary Rodham Clinton's Jewish ancestry. I also exposed "Irish" Senator John Kerry's true race—yep, he's a crypto-Jew. And for good measure, I threw in revelations that former Secretary of State, Comrade Madeleine Albright, and General Wesley Clark are also Jews. Reluctantly and angrily, Hillary, Kerry, Clark and Albright subsequently came out of the closet and owned up to their Jewish heritage, though they have all refused to explain why they had hidden it all these many years.

....

Fact: GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, is a Jew.

Absurd? Preposterous, you say? Well, I have carefully traced the history of the Bush Dynasty, including the Rothschild faction, and without hesitation I declare to you that, yes, indeed, George W. Bush is a Jew: A Jew by race, a Jew by religious choice. Hidden from public view.

What the media dare not tell you is that, as President, George W. Bush appointed as his first official White House spokesman, a Jew—in fact, a Jewish rabbi—Ari Fleischer. He retained a Jewish banker, Alan Greenspan, as Chairman of the Federal Reserve. He made a Jewish Rabbi, Dov Zackheim, the Comptroller (money man!) of the Pentagon, and he placed a Jewish ideologue and Christian hater, Michael Chertoff, in the scary position of being head of FEMA and Homeland Security. Yes, Chertoff, an ADL fiend whose father is a Jewish rabbi

Texe Marrs

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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

a bit too up to date maybe but that meteor that hit Russia the other day has to be the start of a day of the triffids/war of the worlds/starship troopers kinda thing surely? Either that or it was the missing piece of Realone's brain doing an epic fail on re entry?

awe are you all bwoke up over r1 always posting PROOF, aint life a bitch!

But then you like shit hole politics dont you?


ou will never believe what happened in court today.

They argued before an appellate panel of three judges: Judge Ralph Winter, Judge Marina Corodemus (a potential SCOTUS (Supreme Court Of The United States) nomination), and Judge John Walker (all Yale law school grads). Of course, Ms. Gallop’s attorneys filed for dismissal of Judge John Walker, which was denied. Clearly, they do not care that the judge hearing the case suing the former Vice President is the former President’s cousin. Ms. Gallop’s attorney’s then made a motion for an appellate review of their decision to keep Judge Walker on the case, which was also denied. And the whole time in court, the arguments of Ms. Gallop’s attorneys were completely ignored and instead were questioned with very demeaning inquiries by the judges, such as:

Do you even have a law degree?
From what law school?
Are you licensed to practice in the 2nd Circuit?
Have you ever represented a client in the 2nd Circuit? etc.

Ms. Gallop’s attorneys plan to file a petition for a re-hearing en banc to appeal to all judges in the case to agree to accept the case. If that gets denied, they will file Cert with with SCOTUS, which will probably also be denied.

I’ve got to say, I’m rather disappointed in our legal system today. But it definitely makes for a very controversial and interesting topic discussion.

Sources:

Attorney William Veale, co-counsel for April Gallop


first of all you would demand the judge recuse himself, not file for a dismissal. If the guy who did this story is correct and they in fact filed for dismissal they would have had to do it knowing that is improper procedure and would not get it.

aint life grand!

and this is relevant to the meteor how?

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
I have asked one of these conspiracy nuts for some evidence to back his claim "Al Qaida" was a Jewish organisation.

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I was the first to publish the true facts regarding Hillary Rodham Clinton's Jewish ancestry. I also exposed "Irish" Senator John Kerry's true race—yep, he's a crypto-Jew. And for good measure, I threw in revelations that former Secretary of State, Comrade Madeleine Albright, and General Wesley Clark are also Jews. Reluctantly and angrily, Hillary, Kerry, Clark and Albright subsequently came out of the closet and owned up to their Jewish heritage, though they have all refused to explain why they had hidden it all these many years.

....

Fact: GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, is a Jew.

Absurd? Preposterous, you say? Well, I have carefully traced the history of the Bush Dynasty, including the Rothschild faction, and without hesitation I declare to you that, yes, indeed, George W. Bush is a Jew: A Jew by race, a Jew by religious choice. Hidden from public view.

What the media dare not tell you is that, as President, George W. Bush appointed as his first official White House spokesman, a Jew—in fact, a Jewish rabbi—Ari Fleischer. He retained a Jewish banker, Alan Greenspan, as Chairman of the Federal Reserve. He made a Jewish Rabbi, Dov Zackheim, the Comptroller (money man!) of the Pentagon, and he placed a Jewish ideologue and Christian hater, Michael Chertoff, in the scary position of being head of FEMA and Homeland Security. Yes, Chertoff, an ADL fiend whose father is a Jewish rabbi

Texe Marrs

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
The thing is that when you point out that conspiracy theories are compensatory fantasies for people unwilling to accept that any of their shit in their life might be their own fault rather than the result of the Conspiracy picking on them because they know what's really going on, that upsets the conspiratists and they get all arsey...

Some conspiracy theories are not fantasies especially if they are true. Most conspiracies have nothing to do with anybody lack of self-esteem or success and usually without and grounds whatsoever for such a distinction. To suggest id a fear they may be correct in their theory. My who point is that the world's greatest conspiracies turned out...to be true.

Think ya are exaggerating the controversy over tha earth being spherical. many academics through tha ages accepted it openly for a long time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

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A very recent essay by Leone Montagnini, discussing the question of the shape of the Earth from the origins to the late Antiquity, has shown that the Fathers of the Church shared different approaches that paralleled their overall philosophical and theological visions. Those of them who were more close to Platonic visions, like Origen, shared peacefully the geosphericism. A second tradition, including Basil, Ambrose and Augustine, but also Philoponus, accepted the idea of the round Earth and the radial gravity, but in a critical way. In particular they pointed out a number of doubts about the physical reasons of the radial gravity, and hesitated in accepting the physical reasons proposed by Aristotle or Stoicism. However, a "flattist" approach was more or less shared by all the Fathers coming from the Syriac area, who were more inclined to follow the letter of the Old Testament. Diodorus, Severian, and Cosmas Indicopleustes, but also Chrysostom, belonged just to this latter tradition.[79]

At least one early Christian writer, Basil of Caesarea (329–379), believed that the matter was theologically irrelevant.[80] ...

With the end of Roman civilization, Western Europe entered the Middle Ages with great difficulties that affected the continent's intellectual production. Most scientific treatises of classical antiquity (in Greek) were unavailable, leaving only simplified summaries and compilations. Still, many textbooks of the Early Middle Ages supported the sphericity of the Earth. For example: some early medieval manuscripts of Macrobius include maps of the Earth, including the antipodes, zonal maps showing the Ptolemaic climates derived from the concept of a spherical Earth and a diagram showing the Earth (labeled as globus terrae, the sphere of the Earth) at the center of the hierarchically ordered planetary spheres.[81] Further examples of such medieval diagrams can be found in medieval manuscripts of the Dream of Scipio. In the Carolingian era, scholars discussed Macrobius's view of the antipodes. One of them, the Irish monk Dungal, asserted that the tropical gap between our habitable region and the other habitable region to the south was smaller than Macrobius had believed

Oh there was thought about the earth being round but that's not what power in govt. or church would allow the schools to teach or...society at large to believe. An objective look at the history of research in the possibility of science and math proving the church and power the truth, there was resistance until finally people actually thought Columbus and his crew to be incredibly brave souls...attempting to sail to and maybe past the edge of the world.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
where did the jewish geneality thing come from anyway? Marres?

some of them I recognize but most I do not?

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ORIGINAL: Extravagasm

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WantsOfTheFlesh: ya [Rule] say there was never a relationship between monica & slick willy. . do ya know if willy was gettin' his ___ slicked elsewhere?

Rule says there wasn't, to be conspiratorily provocative. But he neither supports it or believes it.

Monica's diaries alludes to oral. And 'needing knee pads'. And the selfishness of him not at first reciprocating. Her sworn testimony to the Special Prosecutor confirms more. Plus the DNA evidence on the blue dress. Don't forget the tape Linda Tripp made of Monica, for the Paula Jones trial.

Willy was preoccupied with minimizing evidence, in this sexual affair with Monica. So he came up with the clever alternative of reciprocating with one of Arafat's gift cigars. Then he savored it and smoked it. Thinking that would be the end of it. Surprising that it did not cause an international stir, when discovered. But unexpectedly this kink turned out to be more memorable than if they'd had missionary sex. I think we can understand that on CM.
She gave him the tie, so that wearing it, would secretly mean he was reminiscing being with her. She never washed the blue dress for the same reason. This was a sexual relationship. Not hot, but sexual.