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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/20/2013 12:36:07 PM

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Hello, since i've read ur msg am wonderin' how can this practicant lady live a private life considered, from the begining of humanity as a depraved one, wether by the christian church or by the whole religion of christianism??!!..

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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/20/2013 9:47:08 PM

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You want to try that again in english?

What I'm guessing you're trying to say is how can I live a "normal life" when I have "deviant desires"?

Answer is simply this...my sex life is nobodys damn business!!! I go to church, volunteer, have a job, go to the museum & ballet without the pervert detector going off. As said before, if you make this out to be some dramatic problem...YOU will make it that way.
Having a "girlfriend" isn't a big deal, especially if you are french. Having a girl that dresses sexy isn't a cultural issue, so why is one that has toys?

As far as the catholic take on what we do, why would you worry about telling a celibate man that may or may not touch children, that you like spanking? If the vatican or god for that matter, had strong opinions one way or the other...we would have heard about it by now. Seems logical that a being with the ability to create life could end kink, or poverty or abortion if they really wanted to.

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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/20/2013 10:33:30 PM

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I would guess it's extremly hard to live in the "closet" you need to make some choices in your life about what would be best for you long term, the whole world doesnt have to know...just be careful who you submit to and get some experience that will help you along your journey..best of luck..

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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/21/2013 1:04:15 AM

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Hello, since i've read ur msg am wonderin' how can this practicant lady live a private life considered, from the begining of humanity as a depraved one, wether by the christian church or by the whole religion of christianism??!!..

Say fifteen Hail Marys. Feel better yet?

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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/21/2013 6:38:45 AM

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Excuse my modest english young lady, but beleive me am trying to do the best i can to improve it, although , i didn' speak english from a long time. and now let's return to our main subject ; i have the feeling that you misunderstood me all the way or almost??!!... am not trying , at all, to judge ur ur sexual behavior, but , (plz correct me if am wrong) according to church's recommandations , slavery, spanking, whipping, humiliation, domination , etc, etc.... all these forms of human's depravation in D/S world are clearly banned, whether are they for fun or not. So, in my opinion we can't say that we are devout catholics and in the same time live , secretly a private life prohibited by our religion. we're lying to ourselves and also to God . Me too , am catholic fairly practicant till now, but if i decided a day
soon to live fully my deviant desire, as a new lifestyle for the rest of my life (with a Mistress or a dominant partner) or as a simple kink that i'll practice timely,that would mean naturally that i can no longer consider myself as a real fervent catholic cause i decided ,willingly, to live against the christian laws.

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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/21/2013 6:57:33 AM

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according to church's recommandations , according to church's recommandations , slavery, spanking, whipping, humiliation, domination , etc, etc.... all these forms of human's depravation in D/S world are clearly banned, whether are they for fun or not. So, in my opinion we can't say that we are devout catholics and in the same time live , secretly a private life prohibited by our religion. we're lying to ourselves and also to God . Me too , am catholic fairly practicant till now, but if i decided a day
soon to live fully my deviant desire, as a new lifestyle for the rest of my life (with a Mistress or a dominant partner) or as a simple kink that i'll practice timely,that would mean naturally that i can no longer consider myself as a real fervent catholic cause i decided ,willingly, to live against the christian laws.

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Here is the thing, don't consider so much what a bunch of old men who take advantage of little boys say is what you should be doing, what we need here is to go to the codex.

Please provide from scripture, the adjurement to practice such abominations:

slavery,
then take an awl and push it through his ear lobe into the door, and he will become your servant for life. Do the same for your maidservant.

spanking,
"He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes" and "Withhold not correction from a child: for if thou strike him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell."

whipping,
And will give him up to the Gentiles to be made sport of and to be whipped and to be put to death on the cross: and the third day he will come back again from the dead.

It was good enough for Jesus, but apparently not good enough for you.

humiliation,
I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted. Oh, yeah and god forced his prophet Hosea to marry a prostitute to humiliate him.

domination ,
Therefore; render unto Caesar those things which are Caesar's.

(read my signature line as well)

Now, once and for all, cease with this fucking foolishness. Get a fuckin hold of yourself.

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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/21/2013 7:04:31 AM

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slavy2u, I don't know how things are in France, but here in the US, we have a lot of Catholics breaking free from the Church's grip. For example, a lot use birth control.

So we tend to have the attitude that "This is how I'll live my life, and the Church can like it or not".

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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/21/2013 3:49:16 PM

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Hello Mr, whatever we do or whatever we decide to do most of all we have to respect the opinions of the others even though we don't agree with them. am not going to debate with you on the ancestral "codex" of christianism , cause it's quite clear for me now after reading your "agressive" pleading that everyone can have a personnal interpretation of the parables of Jesus and the holy Bible, completely different from another one. I just wanna tell u Mr ,respectfully, that what u've qualified in ur last msg "fucking foolishness", i consider it a logic comon sense.... i agree with u sir that Jesus christ was spanked, whipped and humilated, but in fact if the son of God accepted to undergo all these human atrocities not because he had the kink or the desire of submission, or something like that but only that he wanted all costs to accomplish its divine mission on earth: cleanse us from all our sins...
Religion is a matter of belief, we can't shape it as it suits our way of life. wether we accept it as it is or we decide to live differently.....

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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/21/2013 6:17:43 PM

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Slavy, if you think you can't be a perv and a catholic, then make a choice.

Simple.

Doesn't seem to stop the priests though.

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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/21/2013 6:20:36 PM

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Hello, since i've read ur msg am wonderin' how can this practicant lady live a private life considered, from the begining of humanity as a depraved one, wether by the christian church or by the whole religion of christianism??!!..

And this is why I'm quite atheist.

Doesn't make me a bad person.

I'm a helpful little skank, and not tied down by all the hyperjudgemental bullshit that walks hand in hand with 99.9% of organized religion.

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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/21/2013 7:02:05 PM

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Still sticking with : god had the ability to create the solar system & all life in 6 days, yet you don't believe he has the ability to end us (all of us) if kink or abortion or____ was this big an issue? Or do I need to pull out the verses on the parting of the red sea or soddom & gamorah?

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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/22/2013 8:33:12 AM

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Thanks for ur reply Miss, i agree with u 100% and this is what am willing to do....

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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/22/2013 8:56:51 AM

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Hello again young lady,

just to reassure you, i say that am not sticking with parables of OT or the illimited power of God, i am only tryin' to expose my point of view concerning religion and sexual perv. or (if u prefer) unconventional sexual practices. for me, it's crystal clear , when someone is adept of D/s he simply can't be a "real" fervent catholic, otherwhise he'll be lying to himself. Do u agree with me or not??

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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/22/2013 1:45:17 PM

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When you first start talking to potential dommes, trust slowly. If you start hearing some party line that d/s is all about trust and if you won't trust her with everything there is to know about you right away then you can't have a relationship... run.

Trust is a process, not an event. Trust her a little, see how she handles what you've entrusted her with. Then trust her with a little more. On the flip side, there must be a quid pro quo. She needs to trust you too.

I have to say as a submissive I have personally learned this the hard way. BE PATIENT!!!! You need to be able to trust and feel wanted.

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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/22/2013 5:02:11 PM

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Hello Miss, if we're born catholic, it doesn't mean that we're stuck in this relegion till death. once we're major and immunized we have the liberty to choose
another religion, or even become atheist if we wish. the main thing is not to play on several tables as it suits us, otherwise we live in cheating and lying...

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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/22/2013 5:12:55 PM

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Thank u very much alphaminuz for the advice , this will be, for sure, so helpfull to a real newbie like me.

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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/22/2013 7:16:17 PM

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Hello, since i've read ur msg am wonderin' how can this practicant lady live a private life considered, from the begining of humanity as a depraved one, wether by the christian church or by the whole religion of christianism??!!..

Have you actually read Pope John Paul II's Love and Responsibility? If I feel loved and respected by my spouse as he spanks me, then essentially there is no problem with it as far as the Church is concerned.

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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/22/2013 10:52:56 PM

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I'm thinking "our friend" is here to try to save the big bad kinksters from ourselves & getting a shock that many of us not only have a religious foundation, but feel our god is encouraging of WIITWD.

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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/23/2013 12:35:00 AM

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am living secretly and virtually a submissive life from a long time but my pride and my fears prevent me to do my "coming out" and live

really , my desire . wether it will be just a sexual new experience or a definitive choice of a lifestyle, i want today to dicover the mysterious D/S world

to heal my mind and my soul. What shall i do to get rid of this conflictual feeling ( without warming myself) and live naturally my sweet dream???

You sound like someone who thinks they can't send in a resume in response to a help-wanted ad without being committed to work for the company for the next 40 years.

Slow down. It sounds like submission has been a masturbatory fantasy. That's cool. You really have no idea what your "sweet dream" will be like in real life until you experience it in real life. You might love it; might hate it. It might be a lifestyle; it might just be some kinky fun. Neither is better than the other. It's just a matter of what works for yoet Bu.

So forget about healing your "mind and soul," If you talk like that, it sounds like a big pile of bullshit.

Meet people. Online. At munches. And take it from there.

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RE: Need some help from a real Mistress.... - 2/23/2013 4:02:13 PM

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Hello again, i've already finished to read JPII 's book about "love and Responsability" and, to tell u the truth i didn't neither near nor far any reference about what u've said in ur last msg. would u plz tell me wich page(s) exactly??

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