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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1
The British colonies that later became America received only 20% of the slaves that made England and Portugal wealthier.
The for profit prisons were developed in England, and the money from American prison labor goes to multinational investors.
Those are the facts. Spinning the facts, and then hiding behind 'So you are saying it it OK because its been that way?' is absurdist sophistry... it offers no solutions, and makes the problem worse because it carries water for it.
As far as pointing fingers, that contest has already been won by an insurmountable difference.
As pointed out earlier, do the math, it would be impossible for any country to touch the record of atrocities and exploitation set by the old and neo colonial empires.
So the topic, from the OP article, is the current set of denier games being played by those whose comfortable position in life wouldn't be possible without the past they so ferverently try to dismiss.
'No Returnism!!'?? Really? 'That was a century ago'? Seriously?
'It was someone else's fault'... 
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no no no, this topic is about the UK being the root of all evil, let them rant....
bless their hearts
No country is without fault but nothing the UK has done compares with Pol Pot, Hitler, or for that matter the horrors of the French revolution.
Even the Spaniards or the Portuguese. easily outdid Pol Pot, The Nazis, and the French, and they were not as accomplished at robbery, rape and murder as the English. More Africans died aboard English slave ships alone then the sum of those you named.
About 10 million, apparently, many of whom were sold in Amerika. No use pointing fingers at each other.
None might claim the Portuguese nor the Spaniards did not give the English a good fight for the title of the most viscous and barbaric conquistadores. The Dutch were not light of weight either, even the English and Spaniards thought their conduct toward the slaves and Indians was outrageous, and if the Dutch had achieved greater territory they would have scored far better on the scale of savagery.
France seems to be the losers in this contest, not that they were any particular models for civilized conduct.
< Message edited by YN -- 2/22/2013 1:58:57 PM >
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