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littlewonder -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 5:18:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

The internet can be used for many other things besides collarme.com.


I don't think that will really help her though. She needs in person with those who are qualified for her situation. She's not going to be able to learn the stuff she needs from online, except after she has had in life therapy. Then they will give her sites most likely to help build up what she learns from them.




LadyPact -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 5:21:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

Are there also programs that could help me learn my edcuation from the basic ground ups? I wanted an adult tutor maybe or something but we don't have the money for that, and all the tutors I know only wanna tutor kids.
OK, here's a lesson in personal responsibility.

Rather than asking people on a kink message board about such things, you already have several resources to find out this information. Ask yourself who might know things about government programs that you are already connected with? Who are the people who can put you in touch with resources in your real world?

There are two benefits to this. One is that you get information. The other is that somebody in your real world spectrum knows you inquired about it so they can make sure that you follow up.

Granted, these folks are not going to baby you. There are too many clients for these programs so if you don't stay dedicated, somebody else who actually WANTS help and is willing to put in the hard work will take your place if you don't want to put the effort in. There are a lot of disabled people out there and if you aren't going to be serious about it for the long term, there are definitely those out there who will be.





TheLilSquaw -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 5:24:52 PM)

TFB,

A personal question but one I am curious about. If you aren't comfortable answering here I understand.

In the past have you had a psychological and educational assessment done?





Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 5:25:44 PM)

That would be right up my Alley.


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder



So tftb, it's possible they could find you a job something like that.





servantforuse -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 5:27:07 PM)

I'm betting $100 to a local food bank that she won't do it.




LadyPact -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 5:31:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

I'm betting $100 to a local food bank that she won't do it.
I really, really wish I could take that bet. (It's always good to see money go to a local food bank.) Unfortunately, as the wise man once said, don't take bets that you know you are going to lose.





Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 5:31:35 PM)

I think I am also un disagnosed autistic or aspergers, there's some online tests you can take, they're not actual medical ones but they're a jumping off point, i hit almost all the markers. and a lady on fet, she talks regularly about her autism and how she flaps when over whelmed, or has to stim, and everything she says I am like YES, THAT'S ME OH MY GOD THAT'S ME!


I asked my therapist about how to get tested for that and get other things re tested and she didn't know, but she said she'd be more than happy to write a refferal, if I need one.

I would love the help with the resources.
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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw



Yes, there are MANY programs that will help you with your educational needs if that is something you wanted to pursue. Many are open to you specifically due to your disabilities.

I can help you find local resources if you like or your therapist should be able to plug you in as well.

I would also suggest that you ask your therapist to have you tested for your cognitive and social levels.

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ing you wanted to pursue. Man




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 5:33:45 PM)

I went to group therapy as a child in the group home after i reported my abusers for abusing me.


The social group I mentioned with other people who have mental issues, severe or not, might be able to help. it's sunday so I will call on Monday.
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

The places that provide group therapy for your type also usually have contacts with educational organizations that can teach you. You really need to contact these places that you were at before or of others near you that you know of and get them to help you. Tutors are not usually going to help you, especially for free. You need organizations that deal specifically with people like you.

They usually are listed as adult literacy organizations.





servantforuse -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 5:37:28 PM)

Now you are autistic ? I can't take much more.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 5:39:22 PM)

I have yes. I think. I don't actually remember a whole lot about schooling and that kind of stuff.

A lot of times in grade school, I had testing and evaluations, and I had to speak to a speach therapist for a while, and they did all kinds of iq tests an stuff, they did all kinds of tests, and they did evaluations and stuff, and I had to speak to a school therapist and they said I was severely and emotionally distrubed and learning disabled.


and then I went through an assessment for my SSI, they asked me all kinds of questions, and they asked me to draw a picture of me and my family out playing at a park* that i have no idea what it was supposed to do* They told me little stories I had to repeat back in about 10 minutes, and I had to remember very important little details from them.

they asked had I ever been sexually abused, and yes I have, and they asked me a bunch of other things I can't remember.

I do remember a few times as a little kid having to have brain EEG's and cat scans.
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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw

TFB,

A personal question but one I am curious about. If you aren't comfortable answering here I understand.

In the past have you had a psychological and educational assessment done?



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al question but one I am curious a




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 5:42:12 PM)

No I think I could be, or have markers for a similar disorder.
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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Now you are autistic ? I can't take much more.





TheLilSquaw -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 5:48:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

I think I am also un disagnosed autistic or aspergers, there's some online tests you can take, they're not actual medical ones but they're a jumping off point, i hit almost all the markers. and a lady on fet, she talks regularly about her autism and how she flaps when over whelmed, or has to stim, and everything she says I am like YES, THAT'S ME OH MY GOD THAT'S ME!


I asked my therapist about how to get tested for that and get other things re tested and she didn't know, but she said she'd be more than happy to write a refferal, if I need one.

I would love the help with the resources.



Your primary doctor, therapist, or Social Security should be able to direct you to someone in your area that does physiological and cognitive tests. Social Security referred my son to a therapist who tested him when we where in California.

Those tests will tell them and you if you have other diagnosis and what those are.




servantforuse -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 5:49:00 PM)

One excuse after another.




TheLilSquaw -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 5:50:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

No I think I could be, or have markers for a similar disorder.
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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Now you are autistic ? I can't take much more.





The problem with just looking at "markers" is those markers can also be used to diagnose other issues beyond austism. That is why when someone is diagnosed they have the physiological and cognitive tests as well as observations that occur.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 5:57:20 PM)

LS I sent you a message on the other side.




Notsweet -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 6:22:54 PM)

TFB, please excuse me for talking about you as though you weren't here, but I'm addressing this to the other people in the room. Then I'm going to address you.

I can understand people's frustration with TFB, but snark, sarcasm, honesty, or anything like it isn't going to help. Since it looks as though everyone here knows that she starts a thread asking for help, gets advice and doesn't take it, why get entangled in it? What if... when she starts a similar thread, people don't get emotionally invested in it (and that's the problem--you WANT to help, but you can't), and just say the equivalent to "Good for you," "Good luck," or something similar to that? It's hard not to get emotional. It's hard to see someone ask for help, and harder to see them appear to ignore the advice.

At some point, most of us had someone, somewhere down the line who showed us a direction. Most of us are sharp enough to get it. Some of us need constant help and hand-holding because of some disability, illness, or trauma. These are developmental disorders--not just mental retardation, but other disabilities that result in delayed or cessation of development.

I'm not making excuses here, and not to put politics into it, but if you know me, lol, you know I'm not exactly a huge fan of social programs, and that I think they are vastly wasted and abused. That's right, I'm a conservative. But there are some people who need assistance in many ways, and THAT is what the programs are supposed to be used for.

You can't parse what she says (i.e., I don't want to work full-time) because chances are she has no idea what she's actually expressing. I would bet that she doesn't know what it means to work full time, she apparently has never done it, so there's a fear factor here. She knows she's doing the wrong things, and can't seem to see a big picture. It doesn't look like she has all the pieces to put together the puzzle. For some of us, that comes really easily. For some, we've really had to work at it. And for some people, they don't really have the mental competence to put it together.

It's clear to me that people in her life are taking advantage of her, to an extent, and that others are relieved to have some of the responsibility diffused. I'm familiar enough with Social Services (and if you've worked there, you know ithis too well) to know that when you've got 55-85-105 cases on your desk, you don't have the time or resources to figure out what's best for each client, what would cover all their needs, or to follow up. Why social workers aren't all bald, I don't know. But TFB comes here and asks because she knows how to come here and ask. Telling her where to find it herself would work if she could actually handle it, but she's got trouble comprehending that what she asked last week is the same as this week.

I AM NOT A LICENSED THERAPIST. And I'm completely unable to diagnose what sort of problem she has--I can only interpret what I see here. But unless someone else already has this information, I'm going to look to see if I can find an agency near her that has the resources to get her moving along. There is NO single agency that covers all of her needs, and the agencies that DO help her are not in touch with each other. They can't. Their caseloads are too heavy.

(A political-sounding point here. If people weren't allowed to abuse the system, there would be more than plenty of resources for the people who need them. And that's not political, it's government bureaucracy versus citizen.)

Now, yes, I understand that there are things that TFB is doing that appear to be gaming the system. That was my first reaction, but then I realized, she's probably not getting anything she's not entitled to, but likely getting each thing under the wrong appropriation. That's because someone needs to sort through her needs, match them to the appropriate program, and get her "legal."

Believe it or not, and agree with it or not, but she's entitled to live where and with whom she wants, health care, food stamps, job assistance, mental health care, education and rehabilitation, internet access, a phone, free transportation, and a myriad of other things. Do I agree with these programs? Not all of them. But physical disabilities and mental disabilities are not the same thing, and if she doesn't know where to begin, telling her over and over again won't help. Modelling behavior and physical supervision helps.

Now, TFB. I'm going to do a little bit of research for you. I'm not making any promises. But I'm going to see if there isn't some way of getting you a better idea of what it is that will help you. I will private mail you. Is that ok?




TheLilSquaw -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 6:24:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

LS I sent you a message on the other side.



Answered I am slow Walking Dead is on.





Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 6:40:51 PM)

I asked my dad about how I got diagnosed as a kid as all these things and what kind of testing did he have done on me and he got annoyed an said I don't know, . and when I said but I must have been tested, the school doesnt just pull learning disabled and SED and want me on ritalin just because it amused them, he snapped I don't remember the school did all that testing, we didn't have it done.




TheLilSquaw -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 6:53:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

I asked my dad about how I got diagnosed as a kid as all these things and what kind of testing did he have done on me and he got annoyed an said I don't know, . and when I said but I must have been tested, the school doesnt just pull learning disabled and SED and want me on ritalin just because it amused them, he snapped I don't remember the school did all that testing, we didn't have it done.



I sent you links of places in Sac that do those testing and like I said I know for a fact that Social Security can refer you to a therapist who does the testing.





Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/24/2013 7:00:41 PM)

I don't have a social worker or a case worker that I know of. I had one when I was in the group home and when I was leaving the group home at 16 and moving in with a family friend. She was the one that got me on the list for getting SSI..


I have someone who contacts me every so often and says it's time for my SSI review, bring in my bank statements and bring the house hold information, and I bring my dad, because he has to help me with this stuff because I don't know how much his mortgage is, nor how much utilities are or none of that stuff.


And I had a therapist at Kaiser who recommended I go to the social group, but I am not seeing her any more. She was a horrible fit for me personally, and now we're going to therapy at a place called Life practice consoling.

Yes, it's ok to privately email me.

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ORIGINAL: Notsweet



It's clear to me that people in her life are taking advantage of her, to an extent, and that others are relieved to have some of the responsibility diffused. I'm familiar enough with Social Services (and if you've worked there, you know ithis too well) to know that when you've got 55-85-105 cases on your desk, you don't have the time or resources to figure out what's best for each client, what would cover all their needs, or to follow up. Why social workers aren't all bald,
Now, TFB. I'm going to do a little bit of research for you. I'm not making any promises. But I'm going to see if there isn't some way of getting you a better idea of what it is that will help you. I will private mail you. Is that ok?




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