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Besides, there really wasn't a change in the government at all. The President stayed the same, the Senate kept basically the same composition, and so did the House. It's not like Republicans were completely blown away at the ballots.

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Besides, there really wasn't a change in the government at all. The President stayed the same, the Senate kept basically the same composition, and so did the House. It's not like Republicans were completely blown away at the ballots.

No one said they were, least of all me. These types of laws are aimed at women. Contraception, abortion, social issues....
A 12 point win from women isnt something to be ignored. Many issues played into that difference, abortions and contraception being two major ones.

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I would argue that it's the Democrats who do not understand what happened during the last election.

Maobama won the election by a pretty slim margin. The popular vote was actually pretty close. He only won by 3 1/2 percent of the popular vote. It was the EC votes that swept him into office. This mandate nonsense the Democrats are always talking does not exist.

Republicans are doing their job. Like any politician on either side of the aisle, they are following the mandate of their constituents, and their constituents represent 47% of the popular vote from the last election. It's a little foolish and disingenuous to keep pretending that the Republicans should just roll over and do what the Democrats want. When the situation has been reversed in the past did you ever write your Democratic Congressmen and tell them

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"Oh, and you know all that stuff you campaigned on that got you into office? You should forget all that and march in lockstep with those guys who won. We all need to follow their vision of the future from now on"

I bet you never did...

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It is fashionable to accuse the Dems of being as bad as the Radicals, but when you look closely, they are simply clinging desperately to what has been gained over the last one hundred and fifty years, trying to prevent all our social institutions from being utterly trashed.

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They have had to become hard core in the process, to the detriment of their reputation. The critical thing to remember is that the Dems are at least trying to solve our problems of trade, jobs, economics, education, etc.

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Whether it was true or manufactured, the incessant beating of the "Republican War on Women" drum probably didn't have any effect, right? It's just that Democrats have women's best interests at heart, right? I'm sure there was no pandering at all.

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Whether it was true or manufactured, the incessant beating of the "Republican War on Women" drum probably didn't have any effect, right? It's just that Democrats have women's best interests at heart, right? I'm sure there was no pandering at all.

We can debate whether it is a "war on women" or not to seek to restrict access to health care and reduce the current set of rights regarding abortion. But surely you cannot be saying that there isn't a MARKED difference between the two parties on these issues and that most women see it as hostile. Further, when you start getting nationwide concerted efforts operating at all levels of government I have to think the word "war" isn't all that far off.
Oh.. and let's not even get started on the "50 shades of rape" debacle.

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A group of House Republicans said Tuesday that a bill to fund the federal government should include provisions targeting the contraception mandate in President Obama's healthcare law.

GOP lawmakers reintroduced a bill Tuesday to repeal the contraception mandate. They also pressed their party's leaders to roll back the provision as part of a continuing resolution later this month to keep the federal government operating.

"This attack on religious freedom demands immediate congressional action," the 14 lawmakers wrote. "Nothing short of a full exemption for both nonprofit and for-profit entities will satisfy the demands of the Constitution and common sense."

The continuing resolution that House appropriators released Monday would not cut off funding for the Affordable Care Act, despite years of conservative pressure to defund the healthcare law. But Tuesday's letter, led by Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.), indicates that fights over the health law could still roil the funding debate.
Black declined to say whether she would vote against the continuing resolution if it does not include provisions aimed at rolling back the contraception mandate.
"Congress cannot ignore the relentless assault on the First Amendment right to religious freedom, and must act before the (Affordable Care Act) provisions are fully enacted in August of this year," the lawmakers wrote to GOP leaders and appropriators in both chambers.

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/abortion/286217-gop-lawmakers-say-spending-bill-should-target-contraception-mandate#ixzz2MlNDfeyU


Considering how the last election was decided ....

WTF?

I am really confused as to what is going through some of their minds.

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Without the incessant message being pounded out, I seriously doubt women would have gotten as jaded as they did. I'm not saying they wouldn't have or that none would have, but, seriously, the Liberals pounding that message home worked like a charm.

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Thank you Jeff.
DS, women arent as stupid as you seem to wish we were. I dont go on and on about wars on ____.. I make allowances and look for the truth. Lucy and kalik and a few other women on these threads are the same way. We call bullshit when we see it, on both parties.
When I see state after state attempting to override a SC decision, when I see businesses using RELIGION as an excuse to treat women differently then men. When I see a political party using every excuse in the book to keep women "barefoot and pregnant", even going so far as to actually say that rape prevents pregnancy... I see a war. These were not isolated incidents but wide spread. Vulgar attempts to control women based upon their own morality.

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And, before someone can come along and say the liberal agenda is to force "Christians" to accept something they find abhorrent, liberals have made no attempts to force women to have abortions, to force them to take contraceptives, to force anyone to agree that abortions are morally acceptable. When that happens, then you can say liberals are forcing their own morality onto everyone else.

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A group of House Republicans said Tuesday that a bill to fund the federal government should include provisions targeting the contraception mandate in President Obama's healthcare law.

GOP lawmakers reintroduced a bill Tuesday to repeal the contraception mandate. They also pressed their party's leaders to roll back the provision as part of a continuing resolution later this month to keep the federal government operating.

"This attack on religious freedom demands immediate congressional action," the 14 lawmakers wrote. "Nothing short of a full exemption for both nonprofit and for-profit entities will satisfy the demands of the Constitution and common sense."

The continuing resolution that House appropriators released Monday would not cut off funding for the Affordable Care Act, despite years of conservative pressure to defund the healthcare law. But Tuesday's letter, led by Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.), indicates that fights over the health law could still roil the funding debate.
Black declined to say whether she would vote against the continuing resolution if it does not include provisions aimed at rolling back the contraception mandate.
"Congress cannot ignore the relentless assault on the First Amendment right to religious freedom, and must act before the (Affordable Care Act) provisions are fully enacted in August of this year," the lawmakers wrote to GOP leaders and appropriators in both chambers.

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/abortion/286217-gop-lawmakers-say-spending-bill-should-target-contraception-mandate#ixzz2MlNDfeyU


Considering how the last election was decided ....

WTF?

I am really confused as to what is going through some of their minds.

The GOP understood the last election the same way the Dems understood the previous election.

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Oh, stop that. Forcing a Christian organization to provide birth control (solely for birth control reasons), when it is against its belief system, is the Liberals forcing their morality. So, it's morality forcing, even if it's but one facet.