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In the past two years, Texas legislators slashed funds for family planning and passed up $30 million a year in federal Medicaid money, largely to squeeze Planned Parenthood out of the state's women's health programs. Last week, hundreds gathered at the south steps of the Texas State Capitol in Austin to protest the resulting public health mess: researchers say nearly 200,000 Texas women have lost or could lose access to contraception, cancer screenings, and basic preventive care, especially in low-income, rural parts of the state.<snip for vid clip>
About a year after Texas slashed its family-planning budget by two-thirds, with 50 clinics shutting down as a result, the Texas Policy Evaluation Project surveyed 300 pregnant women seeking an abortion in Texas. Nearly half said they were "unable to access the birth control that they wanted to use" in the three months before they became pregnant. Among the reasons: cost, lack of insurance, inability to find a clinic, and inability get a prescription. The state's health commission says Texas will see nearly 24,000 unplanned births between 2014 and 2015 thanks to these cuts, raising state and federal taxpayer's Medicaid costs by up to $273 million.
Nearly half of the women said they couldn't access birth control in the three months before they got pregnant.
In a state where half of all pregnancies were unplanned in 2011, and one in three women of childbearing age lacks health insurance, this is only going to get worse.
The Planned Parenthood clinics that anti-choice legislators booted from the state's Women's Health Program serviced nearly 50 percent of the program's patients. Along with contraceptive counseling, the clinics provided basic screenings for cancer, hypertension, and other key problems. There's no shortage of need: women in Texas suffer high rates of STIs and unintended pregnancies compared to national figures, and the state ranks 50th for diabetes prevalence in women. Nonetheless, Republican lawmakers went after the clinics in 2011, thanks to their long-standing beef with the organization, and forfeited tens of millions in Medicaid reimbursements to the Women's Health Program so they could defund Planned Parenthood clinics without breaking any federal rules governing how states have to spend Medicaid money.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/03/what-happens-when-you-defund-planned-parenthood

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I do not support contraceptives not being funded for non-birth control uses. Considering endometriosis therapy isn't for preventing pregnancy, can't you see how I don't support the Church's stance? Hello?

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Excuse?!? Prior to 2001 the primary responsibility of dealing with these priests rested on the local diocese. That doesn't mean there weren't lawsuits going on prior to 2001. Are the settlements between the Vatican and the victims, or the local diocese and the victims? I get the feeling that the Vatican isn't the party paying the settlements. Yes, they may have known about the issue and left it up to the local diocese about it. That he convinced Pope John Paul II to let him take over - from local dioceses - doesn't that mean he was stepping up?

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Is there a requirement for health insurance to cover condoms?

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Must not have any WalMarts in Texas then. WalMart offers a generic birth control pill (MPA) on their $4/30-day plan (which is also available for $10/90 day). Same generic is also offered at Rite Aid (a convenience store built around a pharmacy in case you don't have them; like Walgreens if you have those up North) for $10/30 day or $30/90 day. Those two stores offer those costs regardless of insurance coverage. I'm willing to bet that PP isn't the only place that sells birth control medication in Texas. And, I'm also willing to bet that other inexpensive options are available, too.

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I do not support contraceptives not being funded for non-birth control uses. Considering endometriosis therapy isn't for preventing pregnancy, can't you see how I don't support the Church's stance? Hello?

Hello! They are using their excuse of "procreation" as a way to not pay for hormone therapy.
What part of that arent you getting?

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Excuse?!? Prior to 2001 the primary responsibility of dealing with these priests rested on the local diocese. That doesn't mean there weren't lawsuits going on prior to 2001. Are the settlements between the Vatican and the victims, or the local diocese and the victims? I get the feeling that the Vatican isn't the party paying the settlements. Yes, they may have known about the issue and left it up to the local diocese about it. That he convinced Pope John Paul II to let him take over - from local dioceses - doesn't that mean he was stepping up?

If YOU feel the Vatican didnt know that millions were leaving the coffers and not going to them, you really dont know much about the Church. They knew, they all knew these lawsuits were hitting and why.

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Is there a requirement for health insurance to cover condoms?

There is in the porn industry in LA.
But, seriously, you dont need a prescription to access condoms, you dont need a physicians approval to receive a condom.

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Must not have any WalMarts in Texas then. WalMart offers a generic birth control pill (MPA) on their $4/30-day plan (which is also available for $10/90 day). Same generic is also offered at Rite Aid (a convenience store built around a pharmacy in case you don't have them; like Walgreens if you have those up North) for $10/30 day or $30/90 day. Those two stores offer those costs regardless of insurance coverage. I'm willing to bet that PP isn't the only place that sells birth control medication in Texas. And, I'm also willing to bet that other inexpensive options are available, too.

Cute. You seem to think that one BC is as effective as the next. It doesnt work that way.

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And you know they didnt try the alternative how?

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They knew. I'm not saying they didn't know. Did they know the whole scope? I doubt it. Should they have? I think so. Were they guilty of turning a blind eye? I think so. Should they have gotten involved sooner? I think so. What you are doing amounts to bitching that they didn't get involved sooner rather than accepting that they finally got involved. That there were settlements simply shows that those local dioceses were "paying for their sins" the only way they could. Until someone invents a WABAC machine so they can take care of those priests properly prior to the pedophilia, what other recourse do they have?

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But, there is a cost, no?

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I have a solution, vasectomies! :D

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And you know they didnt try the alternative how?

Never said they didn't. Never said it would work for them. But, there are options. And, without taking birth control pills, there are still other methods of pregnancy prevention. And, there is also abstinence. And, for those men who are asshats who coerced the women into intercourse, there are two other options to stick a dick that won't get her pregnant.

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They knew. I'm not saying they didn't know. Did they know the whole scope? I doubt it. Should they have? I think so. Were they guilty of turning a blind eye? I think so. Should they have gotten involved sooner? I think so. What you are doing amounts to bitching that they didn't get involved sooner rather than accepting that they finally got involved. That there were settlements simply shows that those local dioceses were "paying for their sins" the only way they could. Until someone invents a WABAC machine so they can take care of those priests properly prior to the pedophilia, what other recourse do they have?

"Clean up around your own back door before you start pointing at mine."
Something my dad used to say. Seems appropriate in regards to the Church.

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But, there is a cost, no?

Yep, there is a cost for bandaids, gauze, tape, thermometers, ect ect ect.
Are you expecting those to be covered as well?

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Why the fuck not? Let all the rich people pay for everything! Can't expect anyone to pay for their own shit, right?

But, since we're talking about birth control costs, why not have that included?

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And you know they didnt try the alternative how?

Never said they didn't. Never said it would work for them. But, there are options. And, without taking birth control pills, there are still other methods of pregnancy prevention. And, there is also abstinence. And, for those men who are asshats who coerced the women into intercourse, there are two other options to stick a dick that won't get her pregnant.

Why should a woman have to give up sex? Because a bunch of men in white/red/black robes tell her she has too?

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There are many "options". Not all options work for all women.
For example, BC pills, if its the wrong strength or formula, can cause a woman to bleed until its changed. Something a woman with endometriosis doesnt need to do.

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Ugh! This is why I hate talking about women's health with men.
Accept the fact that when you think you are right about how a woman's body works, you are going to be wrong and get rid of that thought.

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You have argued for the Church and their "rights".
I think you need to go back to the Church and accept a robe yourself with your talk of "abstinence".
So fucking unbelievable.

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Holy shit. How do they know which dosage to give specifically to combat endometriosis?

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Really? That's going to be your new defense? Guess a male OB/GYN hasn't a clue how a woman's body works, either, right? Do you know how a male body works? I'm betting you pretty much do.

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Hold on a second. I can argue for anyone's rights I want. I don't have to agree with them to argue for their rights. I don't agree with the KKK, but they have a right to Freedom of Speech. I don't have to agree with Cindy Sheehan to support that she has a right to protest. I don't have to agree with the Reverends Jackson and Sharpton to support their rights to free speech.

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Holy shit. How do they know which dosage to give specifically to combat endometriosis?

I have seen women have to deal with break through bleeding for months until the right one was found.
To answer your question, they dont. Each woman is different. Which is why having a few generic formulas on a discount sheet isnt cutting it.

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Really? That's going to be your new defense? Guess a male OB/GYN hasn't a clue how a woman's body works, either, right? Do you know how a male body works? I'm betting you pretty much do.

A male OB/GYN was trained. I was trained in men's bodies. Were you trained?

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Hold on a second. I can argue for anyone's rights I want. I don't have to agree with them to argue for their rights. I don't agree with the KKK, but they have a right to Freedom of Speech. I don't have to agree with Cindy Sheehan to support that she has a right to protest. I don't have to agree with the Reverends Jackson and Sharpton to support their rights to free speech.

Religious freedom has become a catch all phrase for anything they dont want to agree with. Did you know the bible does not prohibit birth control? Even beyond that, to condemn a woman to either pain or a hysterectomy (and women still can have endometriosis after a hysterectomy) is plain cruel and evil.

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Having 3 dosages of one medication isn't going to handle every case. I never said it would. But, could it have made a difference? Could it have taken care of the needs of the protesters in Texas? Could it be a viable solution for any/some/many/most?

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To an extent, actually, I have been. It isn't in a gynecological, or pharmacological pursuit, but I have gotten the basics of reproductive anatomy and physiology as part of my college education.

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So what? That's their issue to deal with. And, a position I have stated, several times now, I don't agree with. Plus, it has nothing to do with my response.