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igor2003 -> RE: Witness lied under oath in Trayvon Martin case (3/7/2013 10:15:45 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Raiikun
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ORIGINAL: igor2003
In the 911 recording the dispatcher asked whether Z was following M at the 2:22 minute mark. The call went on for another 1:43 minutes. That is anywhere from 3 to 5 times as long as you say it would have taken him to walk back to his truck. But as you said, HE WAS STILL IN THE SAME AREA! He wasn't walking back to his truck at all. He was staying in that same area hoping to see where Martin had "disappeared" to.
It is perfectly legal to hope to meet the Police closer to the area where the person disappeared so that they have a closer starting point to look for him. George was under no legal requirement to return to the truck, nor is it evidence of George intending to commit murder.
The fact is, as you pointed out, he remained in the same area, as opposed to chasing anyone. Here is what you wrote in post #74, " while returning to his truck with keys in his hand", and that is also one of the things Zimmerman said. Now you are saying he wasn't going to his truck and instead, he was waiting for the police. Both you and Zimmerman should stick to just one story.
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Then, once the physical altercation started...if Martin had attacked Zimmerman, and Zimmerman was trying to get away, common sense would tell you that Zimmerman would have been trying to get back to his truck. But the fight did NOT proceed in that direction. Instead, it moved in the direction of where Martin was staying, as if HE was the one trying to get to safety.
Yeah, I'm sure someone who had just been punched in the nose hard enough to cause the kind of injury photoed above, while in the dark in the rain would have the presence of mind within the following 3-5 seconds to be aware of which way the fight was moving. George was the only one taking any significant injury at that point. The fact is, that Zimmerman said he was knocked down IMMEDIATELY. Not after 3-5 seconds. Not 30 or 40 feet away. When you look at all the evidence, Zimmerman's statements that night, the witnesses statements, and eventual locations, it is pretty evident that Zimmerman tried to detain Martin near the "T", Martin tried to get away by going toward where he was staying (most likely with Zimmerman hanging onto his sweatshirt), and after moving the 30 or 40 feet to where Martin was eventually killed Martin punched Zimmerman, breaking his nose, knocking him down, and ended up being shot by Zimmerman.
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Also, Zimmerman "claims" that the punch that broke his nose knocked him down immediately...at the "T" in the sidewalk (remember...Martin was supposed to have approached Zimmerman and sucker punched him at the "T"). So if Martin then mounted Zimmerman "MMA style", how is it that Martin was shot and died some 30-40 feet from there?
This is where paying attention to all of the evidence helps. Good advice...please heed it!. W11/20 heard the encounter start at the T intersection, just like George said, then they heard the rustling/grunting move south past their house. W6 heard the screams for help come from a distance and get closer until they ended up behind his house, where he saw Trayvon on top of George and George trying to get up.
Put it together, and George was most likely punched at the T intersection where he said he was, and within 3-4 seconds was on the ground south of the T and the fight moved the rest of the way on the ground as George tried to escape Trayvon's attack on him as George screamed for help. Sorry, but what you are claiming doesn't add up.
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