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DomKen -> RE: gun control and tragedies (3/9/2013 10:53:33 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Kirata
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ORIGINAL: DomKen
The Giffords attack
The Long Island Railroad attack
The Thurston High School attack
Well damn, score Ken on the reloading bit. But I notice something else interesting here in two of the cases.
During the next three minutes, Ferguson killed six people and injured another 19... Ferguson had emptied two 15-round magazines during the shooting. While reloading his third magazine somebody yelled, "Grab him!"
This illustrates that the reloading factor offers a rather poor advantage to the victims, even in a crowded subway car where people are presumably close enough to risk it.
Kinkel fired a total of 50 rounds, accumulating 37 hits, and two fatalities. When Kinkel's rifle ran out of ammunition and he began to reload, wounded student Jacob Ryker tackled him, assisted by several other students. Kinkel drew the Glock and fired one shot before he was disarmed, injuring Ryker again as well as another student.
So let's review: 19 injured and 6 dead in the first example, 2 dead and 37 injured in the second, all unarmed, all helpless to do anything except watch the horror unfold, because schools are "gun-free" zones and getting a carry permit in New York City is next to impossible. Even in the Gifford case, the shooting was only stopped because the klutz dropped the mag!
Yet we have people seriously proposing - with a perfectly straight face - limiting magazine capacity as an intelligent response. I mean seriously, in my opinion some people have such a powerful aversion to guns that it impairs their contact with reality.
K.
So you tried to call me a liar and got caught now you're trying to handwave away the facts.
You seem to be trying to shoehorn in universal carry as a panacea. Anyone with any actual knowledge of guns would know that it is a very bad idea.
However, as the actual facts prove, limiting magazine capacity is a good idea to at least limit the carnage.
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