Nosathro
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Oh he did misrepresent and I quote "Thanks. How do you like the way your gun ban is working out?"
The chart only shows assaults but not of a specific type, nothing about guns. Assaults can be from a hand, stick baseball bat, etc, does not have to be just a gun.
That's correct. An assault of whatever type does not have to be a gun.
His point is that since the ban on firearms,
ALL assaults are up.
He wasn't comparing Aussie to the US. He was comparing Aussie pre and post ban.
Guns were banned and assaults increased. I'm not pointing out causality. I'm pointing out correlation.
Since 1996, assaults (of all kinds) have nearly doubled.
And your wrong again, firearms were not baned in Austrlia.
Under the 1996 National Agreement on Firearms. Anyone wishing to possess or use a firearm must have a Firearms Licence and, with some exceptions, be over the age of 18. Owners must have secure storage for their firearms.
Before someone can buy a firearm, he or she must obtain a Permit To Acquire. The first permit has a mandatory 28-day delay before it is first issued. In some states (e.g., Queensland, Victoria, and New South Wales), this is waived for second and subsequent firearms of the same class. For each firearm a "Genuine Reason" must be given, relating to pest control, hunting, target shooting, or collecting. Self-defense is not accepted as a reason for issuing a license, even though it may be legal under certain circumstances to use a legally held firearm for self-defense
And there has been some postive results:
Between 1991 and 2001, the number of firearm-related deaths in Australia declined 47%.[25] According to a 2011 report from the Australian government, "...the number of victims of homicide has been in decline since 1996". There were 354 victims in 1996, but only 260 victims in 2010, a decrease of 27 percent. Also, "The proportion of homicide victims killed by offenders using firearms in 2009–10 represented a decrease of 18 percentage points from the peak of 31 percent in 1995–96 )."
Firearm suicides have fallen from about 22% of all suicides in 1992[26] to 7% of all suicides in 2005.
The number of guns stolen has fallen from an average 4,195 per year from 1994 to 2000 to 1,526 in 2006–2007.
Some interesting facts about the assaults as well
Where the relationship between victim and offender was stated, 81% of female victims of assault knew the offender, compared with 49% of male victims.
Assaults against females were more than twice as likely to be perpetrated by a family member as those against males.
Recorded assaults occurred most frequently in dwellings (42%).
It is very possible that Austrilia would have a growing domestic violence problem more that say an assault in an attempt to steal a walet.
Also, males and females aged 15 to 24 experienced assault at the highest rates after this age period it declines to almost nothing by 65.
And again the Austrlia are still behind our level of assaults.
< Message edited by Nosathro -- 3/11/2013 10:41:20 AM >
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RE: gun control and tragedies - 
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