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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/13/2013 8:18:34 PM   
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It's all Kool-Aid. That supposed drop in unemployment only cost some billions in government spending.
Not that I wish it, but I'll dance for joy when it all comes apart and shoves it up the left's collective asses, being those who applaud the Obama's agenda.

So you will be happy to inflict suffering on your fellow Americans. Why am I not surprised.

I won't be the one inflicting anything. But I will find it humorous. Who am I to deny what's been asked for?

So you will find it "humorous" that many of your fellow americans are suffering......Why is it that you call yourself an American?


DYB, if Yachtie is right, and shit hits the fan the way it's been outlined by ZeroHedge, then he will laugh as the Liberals get their comeuppance. He may have a twisted sense of humor in this, but you would have supported and pushed for the suffering of your fellow Americans (with the assumption that the shit does hit the fan the way Yachtie is asserting).


Bingo.

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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/13/2013 8:23:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk
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ORIGINAL: Yachtie
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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk
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ORIGINAL: Yachtie
~FR~
It's all Kool-Aid. That supposed drop in unemployment only cost some billions in government spending.
Not that I wish it, but I'll dance for joy when it all comes apart and shoves it up the left's collective asses, being those who applaud the Obama's agenda.

So you will be happy to inflict suffering on your fellow Americans. Why am I not surprised.

I won't be the one inflicting anything. But I will find it humorous. Who am I to deny what's been asked for?

So you will find it "humorous" that many of your fellow americans are suffering......Why is it that you call yourself an American?


DYB, if Yachtie is right, and shit hits the fan the way it's been outlined by ZeroHedge, then he will laugh as the Liberals get their comeuppance. He may have a twisted sense of humor in this, but you would have supported and pushed for the suffering of your fellow Americans (with the assumption that the shit does hit the fan the way Yachtie is asserting).


Which all could come true but I sure as hell wouldn't find it humorous. What sort of american would be happy about that?



I'm always amazed at the people who argue that there's never going to be a fire in their neighborhood, while they're drinking a soda, talking on their phone, changing stereo channels and, all the while, bitching about having to pull over to the right shoulder while the red lights flash.

(One of these days Bub...it's gonna be you they have to pull over for. You better hope you got some 81 mg aspirin in your dash and a spare Juice box with one of them handy little straws attached to the side).

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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/14/2013 5:39:27 AM   
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Okay...sorry...I'm missing something here....
Retail sales actually FELL 1.4 BILLION (dollars) ...as in, people ACTUALLY purchased 1.4 BILLION fewer dollars of goods than the month preceding, yet "seasonally adjusted" sales rose.
Sorry....(I'm just trying to grasp this)....sales in FACT fell...they were in real dollars, less than the previous month....but....they also rose.
So, is that kinda like "The Consumer Price Index fell this month, less housing, energy and grains"?
(Like, all the shit that pretty everyone much buys?).
Is that kind of like...."Clinton ran a surplus, but paid off the debt, even as it in fact, rose, in some cases by ungodly amounts?"
(I'm sorry...I was deemed slow in the 7th grade....can you help me on this....because I now understand how Clinton paid off the debt (Taz was quite clear on this)....he did it with "surpluses" but I guess I don't understand how when sales in mathematical reality....fall.....sales actually increased.
(I skipped "New Math"....is that what this is?).


Seasonal Adjustments:
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    Seasonal adjustment is a statistical technique that attempts to measure and remove the influences of predictable seasonal patterns to reveal how employment and unemployment change from month to month.
    Over the course of a year, the size of the labor force, the levels of employment and unemployment, and other measures of labor market activity undergo fluctuations due to seasonal events including changes in weather, harvests, major holidays, and school schedules. Because these seasonal events follow a more or less regular pattern each year, their influence on statistical trends can be eliminated by seasonally adjusting the statistics from month to month. These seasonal adjustments make it easier to observe the cyclical, underlying trend, and other nonseasonal movements in the series.


This was pulled from the BLS website, but it's the same idea here.

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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/14/2013 6:50:57 AM   
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Well, nobody is gonna waste their time on the dogshit the inept teabaggers in the house pass, up there in the Senate.....what have they passed down there worth even considering being made into law?  You know, like give us specifics of the good in those shiteater bills they have been passing down there. 


Obama has put out his budget as required by law.  (IN FEBRUARY I BELIEVE).  You shouldn't join in to the conversation and make teabaggers look even more fuckin stupid and inept by adding more lies to the originals. As if you tell a big enough lie someone is finally going to believe you. 

Say what you will about the budgets House Republicans have passed each year since Obama has been in office as required by law...up there in the Senate, in violation of the law Democrats haven't passed even one budget since 2009, and that was simply a Continuing Resolution rather than a new budget.

Obama has NOT put out his budget proposal this year as required by law. Latest word from White House Press Secretary Jay Carney (sp?) is that Obama won't be putting out his budget proposal until April...TWO MONTHS after the law requires him to put one out. It would behoove you to research an issue before you join the conversation only to have a smart and adept Tea Party member expose you as being Kool-Aid inebriated. Additionally, Obama's previous budgets have been resoundingly rejected by Senate Democrats...almost unanimously in fact. Finally, this is the first time in 90+ years that a POTUS hasn't put out their budget before the House and Senate. Historic POTUS indeed. Historic law-breaking POTUS.

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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/14/2013 6:57:07 AM   
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How do you do a budget if you arent sure about the spending cuts that may remain or change?

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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/14/2013 7:22:10 AM   
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How do you do a budget if you arent sure about the spending cuts that may remain or change?


By putting out a budget.

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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/14/2013 7:31:56 AM   
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Hmmm.. thats makes soooooooooooo much sense. Put out a budget without knowing what payments are to be made to whom, what cuts are legally required by law, ect ect ect.

Oh yeah, perfect sense.

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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/14/2013 7:53:24 AM   
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...up there in the Senate, in violation of the law Democrats haven't passed even one budget since 2009, and that was simply a Continuing Resolution rather than a new budget.


You might wanna show us that fucking law, Perry Mason, and :

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Obama has NOT put out his budget proposal this year as required by law. Latest word from White House Press Secretary Jay Carney (sp?) is that Obama won't be putting out his budget proposal until April...TWO MONTHS after the law requires him to put one out. It would behoove you to research an issue before you join the conversation only to have a smart and adept Tea Party member expose you as being Kool-Aid inebriated.


Yeah, keep sucking the koolaide and toiletswill. 

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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/14/2013 7:28:36 PM   
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Hmmm.. thats makes soooooooooooo much sense. Put out a budget without knowing what payments are to be made to whom, what cuts are legally required by law, ect ect ect.

Oh yeah, perfect sense.


Lemme ask you a question:


The shit has hit the fan....you have NO idea what's coming (in) and....you know you can't pay the bills based on what you know you have coming in.

What are you gonna do?

Say..."ehhh....fuck it...raise the debt limit....don't have a clue where I'm going" or....

Say "the shit has hit the fan....I no longer care where I'm going....I can't get there from here but I DOOOOOOO know what I have....and this is all I have....ain't nothing else available....this is it....maybe now's the time to say....'here's what I have...it's all I've got....let's spend no more than this".

THAT is a (rational) budget plan.

THAT is what I expect from my President (and Congress).

And that is what I expect....today.

When it's due.

(Just like you).

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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/14/2013 7:42:49 PM   
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Except that he didnt know what numbers he had to use.

Hmmmm... interesting no?

Its like making a house hold budget knowing what you have coming in yet listing....

Mortgage... no idea... lets assume this.
Power... no clue.. lets assume this.
Car payments.... not sure... lets assume this.

Difference being.. your house budget isnt governed by law.

The law required "x" amount of cuts to different departments. If those amounts changed, instead of remaining the same, his budget would also change.

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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/14/2013 8:07:52 PM   
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Except that he didnt know what numbers he had to use.

Hmmmm... interesting no?

Its like making a house hold budget knowing what you have coming in yet listing....

Mortgage... no idea... lets assume this.
Power... no clue.. lets assume this.
Car payments.... not sure... lets assume this.

Difference being.. your house budget isnt governed by law.

The law required "x" amount of cuts to different departments. If those amounts changed, instead of remaining the same, his budget would also change.



He's the boss, the Prez, the Commander in Chief.

(That's his job).

That's what he gets paid for.

(It's his job).

Let me emphasize that one more time: It's his job.

See....it's what he's paid to do....ergo...his job.

He's supposed to do this thing...every year....on time....regardless of whether or not the electricity is on, no matter if the Congress doesn't do their job, even if they forgot to deliver him a yellow legal pad.....regardless of whether or not his Comcast connection is working....that's his job.

That's what he's paid to do.

It's proscribed....in federal law.

(It's what he's mandated to do).

I don't know if that was clear but....that's what he was paid to accomplish....by a certain date.

Paycheck/mandate....etc.

Now...if that wasn't at all concise, allow me to be more clear.....

That his job.

(That's what we pay him to do).

See.....that's his job.

He's late.

Again.

(It's his job).

As in....what he's paid to do.

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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/14/2013 8:25:42 PM   
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And the penalty if he doesnt?

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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/15/2013 5:49:19 AM   
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And the penalty if he doesnt?


Doesn't appear to be one so it would seem.

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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/15/2013 6:48:07 AM   
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"Jobless Claims Drop for Third Straight Week"



http://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/2013/03/14/jobless-claims-labor-department-unemployment-insurance/

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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/15/2013 6:01:36 PM   
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"Jobless Claims Drop for Third Straight Week"



http://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/2013/03/14/jobless-claims-labor-department-unemployment-insurance/


(Weak....Lacking).

(Unsatisfying).


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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/15/2013 6:10:04 PM   
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Well, the alternative was vomitous and revolting.....

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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/15/2013 7:52:04 PM   
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Most of those created jobs were merely dead people being replaced , avg 160,000 people die per month and need to be replaced ! The economy is growing slower than the actual rate of inflation my friends and the average paycheck being approximately $90 dollars lighter every week since the new year your progressive hero has succeeded in creating a double dip recession , I want to know when the adults come back and the fiscal experiment ends

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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/15/2013 7:53:53 PM   
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Most of those created jobs were merely dead people being replaced , avg 160,000 people die per month and need to be replaced ! The economy is growing slower than the actual rate of inflation my friends and the average paycheck being approximately $90 dollars lighter every week since the new year your progressive hero has succeeded in creating a double dip recession , I want to know when the adults come back and the fiscal experiment ends

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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/15/2013 8:00:40 PM   
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Most of those created jobs were merely dead people being replaced , avg 160,000 people die per month and need to be replaced ! The economy is growing slower than the actual rate of inflation my friends and the average paycheck being approximately $90 dollars lighter every week since the new year your progressive hero has succeeded in creating a double dip recession , I want to know when the adults come back and the fiscal experiment ends

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RE: Unemployment continues to drop and other good news... - 3/15/2013 8:06:46 PM   
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the average paycheck being approximately $90 dollars lighter every week


hmmmm.... 2%.... is 90 dollars a week?

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