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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 8:24:34 AM   
SirKenin


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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

Okay; I will repeat after you: I don't care. I really don't. I just don't care. Furthermore, I am hoping other people stop caring what purposely rude people think, too. I see so much abuse that passes for "advice" on some threads. It's truly sickening. - Susan


There you go..  That is a start.  Now you have to live it. 

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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 8:29:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SusanofO
Okay; I will repeat after you: I don't care. I really don't. I just don't care. Furthermore, I am hoping other people stop caring what purposely rude people think, too. I see so much abuse that passes for "advice" on some threads. It's truly sickening. - Susan


I know you say you don't care and we might be able to believe that if your actions weren't speaking so much louder than your words.

People who give their opinions are rude? Is everyone who doesn't agree with you rude?

Abuse? Now you've been abused by posters on an internet message board? But you can't see that you have a victim mentality??????

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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 8:30:01 AM   
SusanofO


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Status: offline 		I really don't care. It's too damn draining. Besides, I have to respect someone's opinion to care - and I sometimes do, but some of the time, I simply don't. If you are looking for an argument, you won't get one from me. I'm too damn tired, and I truly don't care what you think. I don't know you, or what iind of person you are - what kind of credibility do you think your opinion has with me? Sorry to be so blunt, but it's true (at least for me). - Susan

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 6/22/2006 8:35:32 AM >

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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 8:38:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		For someone who doesn't care, you're posting an awful lot about it. 

Just let it go.

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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 8:56:04 AM   
BlkTallFullfig


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Status: offline 		Thanks for posting that Jali, it's perfectly beautiful and so apropos.
As to the OP, I myself have trouble understanding why people get so hyped over asserting "not caring", when it's clear we all do.  People who genuinely don't care are sociopaths/psychopaths...  Moi, I hope to only care for/about people I respect/deem humane according to some basic standards of behavior.   M

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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 9:02:07 AM   
Reflectivesoul


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quote:

Bug off! When I need your approval for anything I think or feel - I'll ask for it. Got that, little man?  - Susan

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 6/21/2006 9:06:02 PM >

< note the original post said Fuck off>


quote:

You know Reflective Soul, I have had it with you. Why don't you Reflect on THIS?: You are a total and complete B____ch. Yes, I do have a temper. And you have definitely brought it out. If your own husband is ignoring you or something I am sorry for that - but it's no reason to take it out on me.

I am not sure just what your problem IS, exactly, but - before this goes ANY FURTHER, I want you, in your ultimate wisdom, to list for me here, right now - all of the reasons you think my situation was my fault. Come on, do it. Then SHUT UP, PLEASE. - Susan

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 6/21/2006 11:31:05 PM >



quote:

Both you and Dedicated Dom dont' have two brain cells to rub together sideways. Why do you for one second believe I would ever care what you think? I just find you annoying. - Susan 

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 6/22/2006 12:06:34 AM >



quote:

Wow, you sure sound like a big tough guy. I must say, I was really moved by that speech. - Susan  


quote:

Wow I am just so hurt. It takes my breath away just how (un) affected I am by this. I have to go. I have better things to do - like take a nap. - Susan



and then more of the same behavior displayed here when someone didnt coddle or agree....
 
Atleast if you are going to start a witch hunt on me because I said to take responsibility for your own actions, be honest and dont play the victim card because it really is a sad way to try and gain sympathy from people, especially when you were the one name calling and being beligerant.
 
To those of you that have no idea what was really going on here please take a step over to the "submissive in a sexless marriage" thread. I'm sorry that you got drug into a witch hunt and thus wise bashed when you failed to coddle the OP as well.
 
*shakes head*




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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 9:03:31 AM   
carolsea


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Status: offline 		Thanks for printing this, slavejali!  My reiki teacher read it to us at the end of our class Sunday afternoon, and I intended to look it up and print it, and there it is!

Seriously, that really is a lovely piece of writing and very meaningful.

Carolsea

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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 9:18:03 AM   
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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 9:21:12 AM   
Reflectivesoul


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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 9:33:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		If I am bothering to post an opinion, or point of view, I obviously think it's a valid one.  I would only want to read opinions of others who felt the same about their opinions.  I do however know that even high school kids learn how to present opposite sides of the same topic in debate, without personally attacking those with the opposite views.  It's always nice to see that there are adults behaving as adults in the forums I may frequent.  Then again, there are rude, immature, ignorant, spiteful, and mean people everywhere else,  why wouldn't there be some of them here as well.  I often find myself  wondering how someone could be 'that' ignorant...  but I don't need to call him an idiot to express my opposition to the subject.

I do think there is a happy medium.  I think some who go out of their way to proclaim themselves king of "I don't care', constantly stressing that they 'just tell it like it is, regardless of what others think',  actually care a lot about what others think.

Actions speak louder than words... when I really don't care about something, I skip on by it.  My free time is worth spending on only things that interest me, or where I think it will make a difference.

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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 9:48:16 AM   
lisa1978


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ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei

If I am bothering to post an opinion, or point of view, I obviously think it's a valid one.  I would only want to read opinions of others who felt the same about their opinions.  I do however know that even high school kids learn how to present opposite sides of the same topic in debate, without personally attacking those with the opposite views.  It's always nice to see that there are adults behaving as adults in the forums I may frequent.  Then again, there are rude, immature, ignorant, spiteful, and mean people everywhere else,  why wouldn't there be some of them here as well.  I often find myself  wondering how someone could be 'that' ignorant...  but I don't need to call him an idiot to express my opposition to the subject.

I do think there is a happy medium.  I think some who go out of their way to proclaim themselves king of "I don't care', constantly stressing that they 'just tell it like it is, regardless of what others think',  actually care a lot about what others think.

Actions speak louder than words... when I really don't care about something, I skip on by it.  My free time is worth spending on only things that interest me, or where I think it will make a difference.


That is beautifully put. Emotions can get the best of people every once and a while, but everyone wants to be respected and many times there are posters who feel being blunt, rude or abraisive is "keeping it real" or "being true to myself" and things like that seem to really take offense when people then do it to them.

There are plenty of ways to disagree with someone, be direct and keep it civil.


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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 9:48:37 AM   
BreakMeShakeMe


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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 9:59:15 AM   
SusanofO


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Status: offline 		Wow. I sound pretty damned angry. Wonder what helped cause that. Oh. I forgot. "Other people don't make anyone feel anything. If you let them that "makes you a victim" Wow - how convenient for you. Guess you can get away with acting just about any way toward anyone with that kind of rationale. Before I truly leave - for good,  perhaps you might reflect on just how looong it took for me to reach that point - and what kind of words and attitude you exhibited in between.

I am sure you are having some kind of emotional problem or personal issue. I might actually care if you were the kind of person who could display any kind of feeling for anyone's sitaution besides your own.  I am not talking about mine, paricularly. There were at least three other people on that thread you wnet out of your way to offend.You are definitely what I would classify as "hurtful" You also have a marked lack of empathy. I stay away from people like that - they're dangerous. Besides,  it's complete and total waste of my time and energy. And why would I care what a person like that thinks?

- Susan

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 6/22/2006 10:59:03 AM >

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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 10:27:34 AM   
SirKenin


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

Thanks for posting that Jali, it's perfectly beautiful and so apropos.
As to the OP, I myself have trouble understanding why people get so hyped over asserting "not caring", when it's clear we all do.  People who genuinely don't care are sociopaths/psychopaths...  Moi, I hope to only care for/about people I respect/deem humane according to some basic standards of behavior.   M


No, not at all actually.  A sociopath/psychopath simply does not care about others or their feelings.  Neither label has anything whatsoever to do with not caring what others think of you.

I care very much for people that are important in My life, but I could not give a damn whether you like this post or not for example.

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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 10:29:20 AM   
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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 10:33:15 AM   
SirKenin


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quote:

ORIGINAL: lisa1978

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei

If I am bothering to post an opinion, or point of view, I obviously think it's a valid one.  I would only want to read opinions of others who felt the same about their opinions.  I do however know that even high school kids learn how to present opposite sides of the same topic in debate, without personally attacking those with the opposite views.  It's always nice to see that there are adults behaving as adults in the forums I may frequent.  Then again, there are rude, immature, ignorant, spiteful, and mean people everywhere else,  why wouldn't there be some of them here as well.  I often find myself  wondering how someone could be 'that' ignorant...  but I don't need to call him an idiot to express my opposition to the subject.

I do think there is a happy medium.  I think some who go out of their way to proclaim themselves king of "I don't care', constantly stressing that they 'just tell it like it is, regardless of what others think',  actually care a lot about what others think.

Actions speak louder than words... when I really don't care about something, I skip on by it.  My free time is worth spending on only things that interest me, or where I think it will make a difference.


That is beautifully put. Emotions can get the best of people every once and a while, but everyone wants to be respected and many times there are posters who feel being blunt, rude or abraisive is "keeping it real" or "being true to myself" and things like that seem to really take offense when people then do it to them.

There are plenty of ways to disagree with someone, be direct and keep it civil.



Ummm.  Firstly not everyone wants to be respected.  I do not care whether you respect Me or not, nor will I ever.  You give yourself entirely too much credit.  That is your issue and I sure have enough of My own, so I am not willing to personalize yours.

Second, being blunt is being direct.  Same thing.  I am not quite sure where you were hoping to go with that line of reasoning.

Thirdly being blunt, rude or abrasive does not necessarily ever have to equate to keeping it real, or being true to oneself.  If that is your personality type then fine, but being true to yourself is posting what is on your mind and not spitting out a sugar coated piece of shit because that is what people want to hear and that is what will earn you the most brownie points.  For a perfect example of what I am talking about, take Mercnbeth's posts into consideration.  There are posts that say it like it is, time and again, whether you want to hear it or not.

< Message edited by SirKenin -- 6/22/2006 10:35:42 AM >

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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 10:45:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		SirKenin.......... sugar coating has gotten to sweet around these parts. So far in past week or so.. i've stated in 2 different... no... 3 different threads... exactly what I' ve thought. My own opinions... and damn.. it's been hot.. the flames nipping my ass. I've laughed it off. Because I don't care... I get tired of having to sugar coat my response to an OP that comes on here looking for vaildation for something.... because they can't make up their own minds. They want advice.. but want to rip apart anyone tht advices in ways they don't want to hear. So instead of  having a post of mine ripped apart... because of my poor ways of sugar coating... I've decided to just got back to being blunt. At least now when i'm accused of being a bitch.... it's because I was blunt.. and not simply mis understood. Besides... it saves on quotes being taken outta context.... ripped apart.. and someone seeing something that's not there... or they do see it part all the sugar. So I feel better just being blunt about my answers. Granted I can just not response... but hell.. some.. you just have to...LOL

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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 10:50:40 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Reflectivesoul

exerpts from the so called victim....

quote:

Bug off! When I need your approval for anything I think or feel - I'll ask for it. Got that, little man?  - Susan

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 6/21/2006 9:06:02 PM >

< note the original post said Fuck off>


quote:

You know Reflective Soul, I have had it with you. Why don't you Reflect on THIS?: You are a total and complete B____ch. Yes, I do have a temper. And you have definitely brought it out. If your own husband is ignoring you or something I am sorry for that - but it's no reason to take it out on me.

I am not sure just what your problem IS, exactly, but - before this goes ANY FURTHER, I want you, in your ultimate wisdom, to list for me here, right now - all of the reasons you think my situation was my fault. Come on, do it. Then SHUT UP, PLEASE. - Susan

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 6/21/2006 11:31:05 PM >



quote:

Both you and Dedicated Dom dont' have two brain cells to rub together sideways. Why do you for one second believe I would ever care what you think? I just find you annoying. - Susan 

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 6/22/2006 12:06:34 AM >



quote:

Wow, you sure sound like a big tough guy. I must say, I was really moved by that speech. - Susan  


quote:

Wow I am just so hurt. It takes my breath away just how (un) affected I am by this. I have to go. I have better things to do - like take a nap. - Susan



and then more of the same behavior displayed here when someone didnt coddle or agree....
 
Atleast if you are going to start a witch hunt on me because I said to take responsibility for your own actions, be honest and dont play the victim card because it really is a sad way to try and gain sympathy from people, especially when you were the one name calling and being beligerant.
 
To those of you that have no idea what was really going on here please take a step over to the "submissive in a sexless marriage" thread. I'm sorry that you got drug into a witch hunt and thus wise bashed when you failed to coddle the OP as well.
 
*shakes head*



For the record, the posts highlighted above were directed at me. My posts which caused these reactions (tantrums) didn't hold back in what I thought. I didn't make nicey-nice to placate her feelings. That I admit. Susan played the victim card and I don't play into it. Hell, the last statement I made wasn't even directed at her but she decided to take offense anyway. For those that are wondering why I'm posting this, it's because I'm taking responsibility for my actions. I won't let RS take all the blame for the creation of this thread. Some of that glory belongs to me as well.

< Message edited by MrDiscipline44 -- 6/22/2006 10:52:53 AM >

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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 10:59:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

Wow. I sound pretty damned angry. Wonder what helped cause that. Oh. I forgot. "Other people don't make anyone feel anything. If you let them that "makes you a victim" Wow - how convenient for you. Guess you can get away with acting just about any way toward anyone with that kind of rationale. Before I truly leave - for good,  perhaps you might reflect on just how looong it took for me to reach that point - and what kind of words and attitude you exhibited in between.

I am sure you are having some kind of emotional problem or personal issue. I might actually care if you were the kind of person who could display any kind of feeling for anyone's sitaution besides your own.  I am not talking about mine, particularly. There were at least two or three other people on that thread you went out of your way to offend.You are definitely what I would classify as "hurtful" You also have a marked lack of empathy. I stay away from people like that - they're dangerous. Besides,  it's complete and total waste of my time and energy. And why would I care what a person like that thinks?

- Susan


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RE: Pulling the plug - 6/22/2006 11:03:23 AM   
SusanofO


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Status: offline 		Tantrums? What am I - two? Do you really think I care what your opinion is? You have absolutley no credibility with me whatsoever - had no business commenting on your (supposed) "insight" into "my situation" when all you really wanted to do was dump on someone else - that was abundantly clear. I got mad because you simply pissed me off to the point I figured why bother keeping quiet? I also don't ever remember asking for your opinion - and was, in tha entire thread - addressing the OP when I talked about it. Do you seriously think I care enough about your damned opinion to care what you think? For the record - your opinion sucks.

- Susan 

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 6/22/2006 11:05:53 AM >

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