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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 12:47:16 PM   
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He unloaded 150 bullets in less than five minutes..... with a smaller cap clip, a different gun, the toll would have been far smaller than it was.

Considering that he was in a gun-free zone where there were few adults present, none close enough to intervene unarmed, and that it only takes about two seconds to reload, I think that's pollyannaish.

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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 12:51:10 PM   
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He unloaded 150 bullets in less than five minutes..... with a smaller cap clip, a different gun, the toll would have been far smaller than it was.

I wish that was true. But considering that he was in a gun-free zone where there were few adults present, none close enough to intervene unarmed, and that it only takes about two seconds to reload, I think that's pollyannish.

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I could about double that with a brace of revolvers and speed loaders.

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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 1:03:37 PM   
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I could about double that with a brace of revolvers and speed loaders.

If 150 rounds in five minutes is correct, he could have reloaded between every shot. As a matter of fact, I read somewhere that the police found his plans at the house. He'd been working on this for a long time. According to the article, his plan called for reloading each time before entering the next room, whether the magazine was empty or not. He had no intention of having to reload if someone inside was close enough to try to stop him when he entered.

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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 1:38:10 PM   
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He unloaded 150 bullets in less than five minutes..... with a smaller cap clip, a different gun, the toll would have been far smaller than it was.

Considering that he was in a gun-free zone where there were few adults present, none close enough to intervene unarmed, and that it only takes about two seconds to reload, I think that's pollyannaish.

K.







Then why all the cry-baby whining about magazine restrictions, from the rightists?


I mean, if it`s no big deal either way....

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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 2:04:33 PM   
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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 2:16:56 PM   
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All the "if" scenarios are nothing but turds of bullshit.....

Anyone can say anything,is true....if.

The rightist are going to have to do a better job of distracting folks from the pile of dead bodies....

And start having a better argument then "if".....if you`re going to overcome a few mass murders a year.


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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 2:22:17 PM   
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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 2:26:02 PM   
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All the "if" scenarios are nothing but turds of bullshit.....

Anyone can say anything,is true....if.







Or they can simply state the truth. It can't be helped if it doesn't confirm your anti gun narrative.

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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 2:38:55 PM   
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The right has already suggested the short term and for that matter the long term solution but the lefties start whining they don't want more guns.

Yeah....what Wayne said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI6FnSytSYg

depending on what day it is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqfKF_GxqGY

The right`s sincerity is so ....moving....in light of Sandy Hook....


My narrative is smart gun rules.....

It`s your "guns solve everything " bias, that makes normal gun owners seem anti-gun.

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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 2:44:53 PM   
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The right has already suggested the short term and for that matter the long term solution but the lefties start whining they don't want more guns.

Yeah....what Wayne said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI6FnSytSYg

depending on what day it is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqfKF_GxqGY

He wasn't talking about universal background checks in the first clip. But I'll give you the gun show point, and I think his reasoning there is awfully thin. It's odd, really, because the NRA/ILA website draws a clear distinction between universal background checks and background checks on gun sales.

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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 2:48:03 PM   
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Now he says no.....


Can we have something other than rightist phony-spin?

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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 2:51:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		That was a rhetorical question.....


We know already quite well,what to expect from the NRA/fux-news network....


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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 3:01:40 PM   
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http://judiciary.house.gov/legacy/lapierre.htm

We think it 's reasonable to provide mandatory instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. No loopholes anywhere for anyone. That means closing the Hinckley loophole so the records of those adjudicated mental ill are in the system.

Directly the opposite of what he said in the second link.

Sen. Leahy went on to ask whether actual criminals should be allowed to purchase firearms at gun shows. “Do you still, as you did in 1999, still support mandatory background checks at gun shows? Yes or no?” Leahy asked.

LaPierre replied. “We supported the national background check system on dealers. We were here when one of your colleagues held the hearings in terms of who would be a dealer and who would be required to have a license…”

“Let’s make this easy,” Leahy interrupted. “I’m talking about gun shows. Should we have mandatory background checks at gun shows for all sales of weapons?”

“If you are a dealer, that is already the law,” LaPierre dodged.

“That is not my question,” Sen. Leahy interjected. “Please, I’m not trying to play games. If you could, just answer my question.”

“I do not believe the way the law is working now, unfortunately, that it does any good to extend the law to private sales between hobbyists and collectors,” LaPierre responded.

“You do not support background checks in all instances at gun shows?” Leahy asked.

“We do not.”




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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 3:06:36 PM   
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Gun shows....the biggest loop hole there is....

Yeah, it's odd. Please see above. I edited my post.

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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 3:54:59 PM   
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It`s your "guns solve everything " bias, that makes normal gun owners seem anti-gun.




That's not our bias. No one here is claiming "guns solve everything". Our bias is apposition to banning an entire class of modern firearms and their accessories.

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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 4:00:33 PM   
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My narrative is smart gun rules.....





What exactly are those rules ?


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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 4:05:36 PM   
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My narrative is smart gun rules.....



What exactly are those rules ?




What day is it?

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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 5:08:18 PM   
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It`s your "guns solve everything " bias, that makes normal gun owners seem anti-gun.




That's not our bias. No one here is claiming "guns solve everything". Our bias is apposition to banning an entire class of modern firearms and their accessories.



Even if it means enabling and arming the nutters....


We got it already....Wayne made it perfecly clear what you think....


The run around,the childish word games,(K and Y),the fake outrage and verbal shell game isn`t going to compensate for the level and frequency of NRA facilitated carnage anymore.


As I`ve said to K a few times.......you guys are going to actually help us,the moderates,with your broken record rhetoric.


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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 9:38:12 PM   
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It`s your "guns solve everything " bias, that makes normal gun owners seem anti-gun.




That's not our bias. No one here is claiming "guns solve everything". Our bias is apposition to banning an entire class of modern firearms and their accessories.



Even if it means enabling and arming the nutters....


We got it already....Wayne made it perfecly clear what you think....


The run around,the childish word games,(K and Y),the fake outrage and verbal shell game isn`t going to compensate for the level and frequency of NRA facilitated carnage anymore.


As I`ve said to K a few times.......you guys are going to actually help us,the moderates,with your broken record rhetoric.


You keep saying that if we oppose this it will see to it that it goes through......and if we support it does that mean it won't????
Get real

Someone like you told me in 99 that if we didn't give anti gun people everything they wanted then (which was pretty much what the want now guns would be confiscated.

Guess precognition doesn't come with the leftist package.

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RE: Post Sandy Hook Gun Rules Nab 1st Douche-bag... - 3/19/2013 10:36:57 PM   
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As I`ve said to K a few times.......you guys are going to actually help us,the moderates,with your broken record rhetoric.

Indeed. And you're continuing to jump a groove by repeating it.

K.

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