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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 7:28:24 AM   
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It makes about as much sense to me to read of a mass shooting here or in the USA and talking of 'Christian thuggery' as it does to talk about 'Muslim thuggery' in the context of repellant things that happen in a country that happens to be mainly Muslim. I mean, really, is some Imam out in the Middle East going to read of, say, the Columbine massacre and say, "Hah! Christian boys - what would you expect?". Well, if he were to do so, we'd all be justified in thinking, 'What a berk'.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 7:43:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just so everybody is clear this is what's getting defended, a child getting whipped to death for being raped:

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ORIGINAL: http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/503-women-publicly-flogged-in-bangladesh-85380
She could not take more than about 80 lashes and fell unconscious, eyewitnesses told media. She died a day later in hospital.

The case caused a national outcry after it was found that the police and the hospital colluded with the family of the alleged rapist to deny that there was any wrongdoing.

The Dhaka High Court has ordered reopening of the case and multiple probes against the police and the hospital authorities.

Judges Mohammad Gholam Rabbani and Nazmun Ara Sultana in the landmark 2001 judgment declared that the "legal system of Bangladesh empowers only the courts to decide all questions relating to the legal opinions on the Muslim and other laws as in force in Bangladesh".

However, the 2001 judgment was stayed following a Supreme Court order, said Gholam Rabbani.

The apex court passed the stay order against the backdrop of killing of seven people in violent clashes between police and demonstrators, who took to the street following the verdict.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 7:45:48 AM   
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Are the same that burn crosses.
Some of those that wear forces
Are the same that burn crosses.
Some of those that wear forces
Are the same that burn crosses.
Some of those that wear forces
Are the same that burn crosses.

Killing in the name of!
Killing in the name of!

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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 7:46:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		So why's all of the bitching in this thread about them evil Mooslims and how they shouldn't be allowed, rather than the Bangladeshi or Maldive legal code, then?

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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 8:19:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Because the islamic scripture like the jewish and christian is corrupted. While Buddha's writings are not. Mankind is corrupt. Because of greed and envy. There are thugs in any race, nation and religion. At the moment Islam is on the end of the stick and rightfully so.
Jews had their share and christians too. NEXT!

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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 8:59:54 AM   
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Because the islamic scripture like the jewish and christian is corrupted. While Buddha's writings are not. Mankind is corrupt. Because of greed and envy. There are thugs in any race, nation and religion. At the moment Islam is on the end of the stick and rightfully so.
Jews had their share and christians too. NEXT!

So do Buddhists. Have you not heard of Sri Lanka? If the shit in the Maldives and Bangladesh is Mohammed's fault, then that fat grinning tosser Buddha needs to man up and accept responsibility for the foul mess people using his word as an excuse make as well.


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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 9:07:22 AM   
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1- why? don't you trust your own lawyer .. wife ... brother, father, mother, etc....

Muhammed did not write the Koran. Nor did he write the 'traditions'.

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ORIGINAL: ashjor911
in Islam all Muslims are your brothers & sisters

That is one of the things that is wrong with Islam and Muslims.

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2- Arabic was developed at that time otherwise they wont call it a language, they added the dots ..... later people of that time can & did understand him & told the new generation what he said.

So you here assert that by simply adding dots the meaning of a text can be changed? So why would anyone believe a text that has dots in it?

Muhammed did not write the Koran. Nor did he write the 'traditions'.

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3- he could learned how to write & write on his own, but its his own miracle that its still ... till today untouched, in Koran.

Pff, you said that dots were added to it a moment before.

Muhammed probably was dyslectic like so many of the primitive peoples of those times.

Besides: Muhammed did not write the Koran. Nor did he write the 'traditions'.

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4- I am sorry that people who did that to your penis did not ask your permission ... but do you think that they did not have "free will" on that matter about if they want to do it or not?

Does a rock when dropped from a height have free will to decide whether to fall or not? Can an animal change its ways and nature?

To which I add: Muhammed did not write the Koran. Nor did he write the 'traditions'.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 9:10:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Is it not logical they are enraged? Do you know how christians are still killed to this day in Indonesia?
Why don't you speak about that?
Mankind is misguided because kings need men to die for their wars.
The king asked his advisor,"How do I get men to die for my country?".
The advisor said,"Promise them a place in heaven with God."
And so all men went to war with a false promise.
Because they want to believe there is more.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 9:11:22 AM   
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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 9:38:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Wasn't that Hassan i Sabbha rather than a King?
Had to look it up, I only know him as the old man of the mountain who gave birth to the word assasin. Great story!
No I think the king I mean was way older. Maybe he was egyptian or whatever. This is just how any smart king would lead his men into battle since the dawn of time.
Make them believe in something that will benefit you and your countrymen.
In essence not too bad except for the offensive side who is blinded by the greed of gold and precious things.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 11:52:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

Just so everybody is clear this is what's getting defended, a child getting whipped to death for being raped:



It suits your purpose to think such. Your problem is you will be pushed to find anyone supporting what happened to the girl.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 12:00:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Wasn't that Hassan i Sabbha rather than a King?

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"How do I get men to die for my country?"


It was Bush and Blair. The advisors told them to tell the soldiers that the enemy had WMD`s

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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 12:26:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
So why's all of the bitching in this thread about them evil Mooslims and how they shouldn't be allowed, rather than the Bangladeshi or Maldive legal code, then?


Oh there's plenty of blame to go around in Bangladesh:

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ORIGINAL: http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/503-women-publicly-flogged-in-bangladesh-85380
Bangladesh Mahila Parishad President Ayesha Khanam said the incident of the teenager who was whipped to death brings the social system, state machinery and performance of law enforcers into question.


I don't disagree with that for a second. However, I also think that people should be allowed to talk about every aspect of the problem without being subjected to a witch hunt.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 12:39:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
It makes about as much sense to me to read of a mass shooting here or in the USA and talking of 'Christian thuggery' as it does to talk about 'Muslim thuggery' in the context of repellant things that happen in a country that happens to be mainly Muslim. I mean, really, is some Imam out in the Middle East going to read of, say, the Columbine massacre and say, "Hah! Christian boys - what would you expect?". Well, if he were to do so, we'd all be justified in thinking, 'What a berk'.


We're not talking about people who just happen to be in a predominantly Muslim country as though it's unrelated. We're talking about Muslim clergy members using their religious authority to pass religious edicts that these women get beaten:

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ORIGINAL: http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/503-women-publicly-flogged-in-bangladesh-85380
A demand to prohibit the Muslim clergy from issuing fatwa is gathering momentum in Bangladesh as 503 women have been subjected to public flogging since the year 2000.


And when the actual legal system of Bangladesh tried to stand up to these religious kangaroo courts violent mobs took to the streets.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 12:59:30 PM   
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You've played this 'tweaking' game of sophomoric false attribution followed by 'What? What? I don't understand' feigned naivete way too many times to pull it off with a straight face now.


It's the same arguments, only difference in them is the word religion instead of the word culture so either start screaming racist at yourself and tweak or apologize for crying wolf.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 1:29:49 PM   
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If these people are as concerned about womens' rights as they like to appear, then the place to begin is at home. There are ample grounds for concern about rape and violence against women and children here in the West. There is an awful lot more to be achieved before we can say that these issues have been resolved here in the West.

The best way we can help eliminate gender inequalities and violence against women and children in non-Western countries is to ensure that it is completely eradicated from our Western societies. Then we will have earned the right to tell others about the advantages of gender equality.


Tweak these aren't mutually exclusive positions, everyone should also be speaking up against children getting beaten for being raped. This violence against little girls is so blatantly wrong that even staunch misogynists can manage to get on the right side of this issue and speak out against the practice.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 4:00:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
We're not talking about people who just happen to be in a predominantly Muslim country as though it's unrelated. We're talking about Muslim clergy members using their religious authority to pass religious edicts that these women get beaten:


Well, OK, then. But I guess we're much better off talking about particular flavours of Islam, aren't we? I mean, it isn't of much use to zero in on 'Christianity', say, in the context of the vast differences between the religious Right in the USA and nominally Christian people (such as myself, by birth and on some official documents) here in the UK. One very major distinction to make is that between basically secular states in mainly Muslim countries and Muslim theocracies, for instance . . . .

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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 6:04:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
Well, OK, then. But I guess we're much better off talking about particular flavours of Islam, aren't we? I mean, it isn't of much use to zero in on 'Christianity', say, in the context of the vast differences between the religious Right in the USA and nominally Christian people (such as myself, by birth and on some official documents) here in the UK. One very major distinction to make is that between basically secular states in mainly Muslim countries and Muslim theocracies, for instance . . . .


Yeah, and most of the people here have (repeatedly) pointed out that they get that being Muslim isn't homogeneous. But at page 12 we're still trying to get people to stop calling bigot and actually have that conversation.

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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 7:31:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
Well, OK, then. But I guess we're much better off talking about particular flavours of Islam, aren't we? I mean, it isn't of much use to zero in on 'Christianity', say, in the context of the vast differences between the religious Right in the USA and nominally Christian people (such as myself, by birth and on some official documents) here in the UK. One very major distinction to make is that between basically secular states in mainly Muslim countries and Muslim theocracies, for instance . . . .


Yeah, and most of the people here have (repeatedly) pointed out that they get that being Muslim isn't homogeneous. But at page 12 we're still trying to get people to stop calling bigot and actually have that conversation.



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RE: Muslim thugs - 4/3/2013 8:53:32 PM   
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so let's starve them until the bastards become civilized.


I hope that was the Spirit in the case of the white house VS Iran.


however, DS I would like it more if you refer to them as Thugs & not "Muslim Thugs".. you see there is thugs from all Religion "s" of the world... & you did not care about them ... only you cares about those "Muslim"... to make the big picture about "Muslims" is bad... like its not bad enough in the US.

where were you when you when the that girl was raped in India, you did not move to "starve" those "bastards"?..

PS: I don't care about them & I am not here to defend them or justify what they did, what they did was wrong & they should be punished for it, or if they was burned.. I really don't care.

what I care about is the dragging of a Religion into other stuff... no one said about "Mr.Sharon" & you know what he did in south of Lebanon in 82-84 ... no one called him a "Jewish-thug". or "al kataeb" & called them (Christian thugs).. & they did not rape just one .... they raped & killed 14,000.... & no one cares.


not here to hijack the topic ... just trying to make things clear for the OP.



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The world would be tremendously better off if there were a few more ashjors in the world, don't ask me how I know that.


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