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VideoAdminChi -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/25/2013 10:08:55 AM)
FR, Some off topic posts have been removed. Please stay on topic or within normal thread drift. Here is a reminder about the topic: quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven Here is a petition. In the Maldives, a 15 year old girl was raped and became pregnant. The thugs that run the country now want to publicly whip her (100 strokes) to punish her for being a rape victim. I've had it with Islamic bullies and brutes torturing and maiming innocent victims. If you have too, please sign like I did. And never CONSIDER going there. Their main source of income is tourism, so let's starve them until the bastards become civilized.

MrBukani -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/25/2013 10:23:25 AM)
It is obvious in this case these muslims worship the devil and not God. They punish the innocent. And the statement social indifference is the cause, instead of religion is false. Muslim men dont want muslim women to have the same rights. Is there any mention in the Koran women can marry three men? No there is not and you cannot in any way change their scripture. Because according to them it's the word of Allah. Gender equality is impossible within Islam.

WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/25/2013 11:36:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GotSteel The claim of Wants that I do agree with (though he doesn't appear to have been able to understand my post) is that you are misrepresenting his position. apologies. outta habit i read yr post as replying to me coz my quote was below his.

Politesub53 -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/25/2013 12:19:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrBukani Muslims will lie to you because they are allowed to lie to non believers. The so called moderate muslims will not tell you the truth. And that truth is that the whole world must become muslim according to the prophet Mohammed. There is no 2 ways about that. Just like they put a veil on their women, they will put a veil on the truth to make you believe they are moderate. Your muslim friends will never admit it. Forget about it. Yawnssssss

Politesub53 -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/25/2013 12:27:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Until enlightened Muslims stand up, stop, and condemn unequivocally the barbaric behavior of many in their religion they are all guilty on my view. An Islamic Response to 'Muslim Street Patrols' K. Thanks for the link. Anyone from the UK knows that not all Muslims are bad, those not convinced should listen to your link.

Moonhead -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/25/2013 12:36:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 Anyone from the UK knows that not all Muslims are bad, those not convinced should listen to your link. A lot of them came here to get away from that sort of crap, in fact.

kdsub -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/25/2013 6:21:52 PM)
quote: Thanks for the link. I am wondering politesub...did you listen to the whole video? I did...Yes he did talk against the Muslim patrols on London streets but he also made excuses for the Muslim community. He said the reason he was giving this talk was because of the disproportionate coverage of the media...it couldn't be because people on the street were told they could not drink and eat pork because it is a Muslim area. He also spent a good portion of the time saying how he understood why Muslims did not like non-Muslims breaking Muslim law even if it was against the very law they demand allegiance to. But I will agree he meant well but the whole direction of this talk was not the rights of non-Muslims but that there are better ways to attract converts. Butch

thompsonx -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/25/2013 6:30:16 PM)
quote: I have Muslims as friends. I have no issues with them individually. But when governments are run as Islamists, they invariably become cruel and have no regard for their citizenry. I have christian friends. I have no issues with them individually. But when governments are run as christian they invariably become cruel and have no regard for their citizenry. I have jewish friends. I have no issue with them individually. But when governments are run as zionist,they invariably become cruel and have no regard for their citizenry.

thompsonx -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/25/2013 6:31:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven And never CONSIDER going there. That won't be necessary. They'll be coming here. Their goal is a global Islamic state. K. We don't have to worry we will be going there...our goal is a global u.s. state.

thompsonx -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/25/2013 6:32:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrBukani It is obvious in this case these muslims worship the devil and not God. They punish the innocent. And the statement social indifference is the cause, instead of religion is false. Muslim men dont want muslim women to have the same rights. Is there any mention in the Koran women can marry three men? No there is not and you cannot in any way change their scripture. Because according to them it's the word of Allah. Gender equality is impossible within Islam. This is different than christianity in which way?

Kirata -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/25/2013 9:31:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 quote: ORIGINAL: MrBukani Muslims will lie to you because they are allowed to lie to non believers. Man I have seen this bullshit argument so many times it is not funny... If you are interested in the truth... What's bullshit is the sweeping claim that they will lie. They are, however, permitted to do so in specific circumstances, one example being for "bringing reconciliation amongst persons," of which your link may be an example. In that context, it might bear reflecting on the title of the article: "Are Muslims Encouraged to Lie to Non-Believers" K.

Powergamz1 -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/25/2013 10:15:06 PM)
The fact that you are willing to keep posting that isn't going to make any of it true. Anyone can scroll back and see that the truth is that I pointed out the Bin Laden book that goes into great detail on how Saudi culture affects such things in a way that other Muslim cultures do not. In other threads I've suggested that folks read the Wawrow book to gain more perpective on why things are as they are in the ME. I've gone into detail on many aspects of society and culture, both Arab and Islamic... all of them verifiable and documented. And of course they can see that your quotes about me claiming that Muslims were thugs are pure forgeries made by you falsifying posts where I said exactly the opposite. All you've brought to the table are a string of internet debate tricks, like the one about me editing out your posts and using strawmen. Again, scrolling back shows this to be a repeated projection tactic in your game of derailing threads where people are engaged in discourse instead of bleating soundbites. Luckily CollarMe has a handy button that will let you have your fun, and spare me the waste of time. quote: ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh quote: ORIGINAL: Powergamz1 I've backed up my claims with links to scientific research. What you keep pretending to not understand has been thoroughly explained, and is exhaustively documented. The burden isn't on the person dealing in reality and facts, the burden is on the person challenging reality... in this case, yourself. And you've failed to meeet that challenge. nah, ya posted 2 links to primate research. thats not in tha same ballpark as backing up claims ya made about a manifest thuggishness in the islamic world against women having nothing to do wit religion or cultural identity of perpetrators. ya claim you deal in reality & facts but refuse to provide the real meat. you strawmanned instead & demanded i back up my views when yr tha one making tha big claims. quote: Additionally your fraudulent claims that I ever said any such things about Islamic culture are exactly that... fraud. You deliberately edited out the qualifying words I did use, and inserted not just absolute words I never used, but spin to the opposite conclusion, to create a falsehood. Thus the 'combative' lie is all yours as well. lol yr combative attitude continues by calling me a liar but nothing i said caused it. yr logic is faulty as well. how is supposedly misrepresenting yr views leading to tha proof you werent combative? heres proof http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4409380 of yr hostility: "you deliberately being dense? Singapore isn't Islamic." ya think its kinda yep 'combative' to say i'm stupid about singapore when i never mentioned it? quote: If you have anything either correct or useful, I'll be sure to let you know. good to know yr the arbiter of all things useful & correct. persumably yr tha sole grand arbiter out there in the world too?

Owner59 -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/25/2013 10:24:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 quote: ORIGINAL: MrBukani Muslims will lie to you because they are allowed to lie to non believers. Man I have seen this bullshit argument so many times it is not funny... If you are interested in the truth... What's bullshit is the sweeping claim that they will lie. They are, however, permitted to do so in specific circumstances, one example being for "bringing reconciliation amongst persons," of which your link may be an example. In that context, it might bear reflecting on the title of the article: "Are Muslims Encouraged to Lie to Non-Believers" K. That`s the,"does this outfit make me look fat?" predicament.......in which it`s ok to fib, to save hurt feelings......[:D]

Powergamz1 -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/25/2013 10:25:15 PM)
And yet you can't seem to find the actual post where I said anything that could rationally be construed as misstating his position. Small wonder, since I never posted one. Care to share with the group how the dialectic is advanced by constantly interrupting productive discourse with these bogus derailments? quote: ORIGINAL: GotSteel The claim of Wants that I do agree with (though he doesn't appear to have been able to understand my post) is that you are misrepresenting his position.

Powergamz1 -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/25/2013 10:28:26 PM)
That's the 'Are you hiding any escaped slaves??' Underground Railroad dilemma in which it is meant to save lives or prevent harm by crafting an answer to those intent on such actions. Do you know the honest answer? quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 That`s the,"does this outfit make me look fat?" predicament.......in which it`s ok to fib, to save hurt feelings......[:D]

Powergamz1 -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/25/2013 10:45:47 PM)
Buddhist majority Singapore maims people because of chewing gum http://www.corpun.com/sgju9403.htm Commonwealth members including Christian ones, also still apply barbaric penal practices. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_corporal_punishment But if it makes people happy to pretend that only one religion causes such things, be my guest. quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven Here is a petition. In the Maldives, a 15 year old girl was raped and became pregnant. The thugs that run the country now want to publicly whip her (100 strokes) to punish her for being a rape victim. I've had it with Islamic bullies and brutes torturing and maiming innocent victims. If you have too, please sign like I did. And never CONSIDER going there. Their main source of income is tourism, so let's starve them until the bastards become civilized.

tweakabelle -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/25/2013 11:18:42 PM)
For mine, the claim that "Islam is more thuggish towards women than other religions/cultures" has been well and truly trashed by now. No serious evidence to support it has been advanced. There are a number of arguments against it, and the evidence advanced about SE Asian Islamic cultures effectively demolishes the claim. It is important, I feel, to understand the reasons why this claim is accepted so widely by otherwise intelligent and reasonable people. Clearly, some people believe this myth because they simply don't know any better. Sometimes they rely on mass media for their information. Sometimes people simply have no information and absorb popular prejudices about Islam. Many people fear things they aren't familiar with, don't understand or see as 'foreign'. Others circulate this myth for far more calculated reasons. Followers of competing religions may criticise Islam in order to make their belief system look more favourable or have legitimate theological disagreements. The tactic of deliberately stirring religious hatreds and divisions to obtain a political advantage or power is as old as the hills. Islam-bashing thus offers a certain appeal to the Right, especially the religious Right. Some apologists for apartheid Israel see all Arabs/Muslims as enemies and and therefore like to paint their enemies as black as possible. * It's sad to see people resort to such cynical and callous tactics. * This comment is a general one and not aimed at any one in particular.

tweakabelle -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/26/2013 12:22:25 AM)
This article, by Glenn Greenwald, was discovered after the previous post was submitted. It's well worth reading if you are interested in this topic. Greenwald details one of the real-world impacts of prejudices like this - how they help the US Govt to get away with killing its own citizens http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article34408.htm?utm_source=ICH%3A++Chris+Hedges%3A+The+Day+TV+News+Died&utm_campaign=FIRST&utm_medium=email

MrBukani -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/26/2013 2:16:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 quote: ORIGINAL: MrBukani Muslims will lie to you because they are allowed to lie to non believers. Man I have seen this bullshit argument so many times it is not funny... If you are interested in the truth... What's bullshit is the sweeping claim that they will lie. They are, however, permitted to do so in specific circumstances, one example being for "bringing reconciliation amongst persons," of which your link may be an example. In that context, it might bear reflecting on the title of the article: "Are Muslims Encouraged to Lie to Non-Believers" K. They will lie to reconcile or smooth over differences? That is if it is in favor to their convictions. But besides that, take the other argument that muslim men can have four wives and they should love them equally. That is impossible cause you can only love one the most. And again can women marry four husbands? No, so there can never be equality in Islam. The first word revealed to Mohammed by Allah was, READ. And did he ever follow that commandment? No. If he would have learned to read and write there would never have been the schism in Islam. He knew this and did not study. Shame on him.

MrBukani -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/26/2013 2:23:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: MrBukani It is obvious in this case these muslims worship the devil and not God. They punish the innocent. And the statement social indifference is the cause, instead of religion is false. Muslim men dont want muslim women to have the same rights. Is there any mention in the Koran women can marry three men? No there is not and you cannot in any way change their scripture. Because according to them it's the word of Allah. Gender equality is impossible within Islam. This is different than christianity in which way? Can you read? Did Jesus say you can have four wives and I'll have 9?[:D]

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