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MrBukani -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/26/2013 2:35:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: MrBukani Muslims will lie to you because they are allowed to lie to non believers. The so called moderate muslims will not tell you the truth. And that truth is that the whole world must become muslim according to the prophet Mohammed. There is no 2 ways about that. Just like they put a veil on their women, they will put a veil on the truth to make you believe they are moderate. Your muslim friends will never admit it. Forget about it. Yawnssssss Yawning puts pressure on the gland to extract serotonine to keep you awake and make you feel good, feeling good? Have another cuppa coco.[:D]

WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/26/2013 5:23:05 AM)
yawns... yr a stubborn one arn't ya? quote: ORIGINAL: Powergamz1 The fact that you are willing to keep posting that isn't going to make any of it true. Anyone can scroll back and see that the truth is that I pointed out the Bin Laden book that goes into great detail on how Saudi culture affects such things in a way that other Muslim cultures do not. In other threads I've suggested that folks read the Wawrow book to gain more perpective on why things are as they are in the ME. yup ya mentioned some book but this is an internet forum. not going to spend 20 bucks on yr say so. doubtless ya could produce links to similar arguments & proofs but you do not. quote: I've gone into detail on many aspects of society and culture, both Arab and Islamic... all of them verifiable and documented. lol then it would be no trouble to paste tha same stuff in here. yet ya did not when asked for some meat. loadsa strawmen aint no substitute. quote: And of course they can see that your quotes about me claiming that Muslims were thugs are pure forgeries made by you falsifying posts where I said exactly the opposite. instead of making vague claims that i'm a liar produce tha exact point r points where i was falsifying yr arguments. all ya have done is jibber jabber ta box yr way outta foolishness. quote: All you've brought to the table are a string of internet debate tricks, like the one about me editing out your posts and using strawmen. Again, scrolling back shows this to be a repeated projection tactic in your game of derailing threads where people are engaged in discourse instead of bleating soundbites. lol yr doing another internet trick of accusing me of what ya did. i'll have to remind ya of yr main strawman wit exact quotes which gotsteel also picked up on. a) i asked why ya thought there was no connection between religion/culture & thuggishness http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4409309 after you said religion was irrelevant quote: seems to me tha question is about individual mobility vs cultural inclinations. there are thugs everywhere but are there more thugs of a special type in some places? if so the "why" is a fair ask. b) after i said there was thuggishness everywhere ya said i claimed islam uniquely caused something http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4409380 quote: ORIGINAL: Powergamz1 You haven't produced anything factual to support the notion that Islam uniquely causes anything that isn't old news in human history. quote: Luckily CollarMe has a handy button that will let you have your fun, and spare me the waste of time. yawns... yr a stubborn one but kindly put me on hide. was hardly going to engage ya in much further discussion coz yr incapable of having any.

GotSteel -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/26/2013 6:15:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: GotSteel Not all muslims are the same, sure point agreed with. There's a spectrum from my cooky friend to the genocideally insane. That said it's not a good analogy to compare a single family of christian crack pots living in a cult compound to the well supported muslim theocracies. Whatever view you may hold about the analogy, the principle remains valid - we shouldn't judge a billion and a half people on the basis of the statements/actions of a few of their number. Once again a single family of christian crack pots living in a cult compound sure that's a few. Where as we've all seen the violent mobs and are familiar with the muslim theocracies, that's not a few. quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle I refrain from making judgements about all male posters posting on this thread despite one or two of them being sanctimonious hypocrites responsible for some of the worst misogyny I've seen posted here*. And I am talking about posts put up in the last few days. (Please don't think this is directed at you personally GS, it isn't) That would be indefensible of me I hope you will agree. We should extend the same courtesy and generosity of spirit to everyone - otherwise it's just a small step to misogyny, racism and all the other detestable social phobias. So no exceptions allowed. I'm not sure why you're changing the conversation back here since I came into the conversation agreeing with you on this. My point of contention is that I dislike propaganda. I'm opposed to downplaying the severity of what is a serious problem.

thompsonx -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/26/2013 6:41:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrBukani quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: MrBukani It is obvious in this case these muslims worship the devil and not God. They punish the innocent. And the statement social indifference is the cause, instead of religion is false. Muslim men dont want muslim women to have the same rights. Is there any mention in the Koran women can marry three men? No there is not and you cannot in any way change their scripture. Because according to them it's the word of Allah. Gender equality is impossible within Islam. This is different than christianity in which way? Can you read? Did Jesus say you can have four wives and I'll have 9?[:D] Had you ever read anything about the history of christianity your post would not contain such moronic horse shit. The bible is pretty clear that jessus was a switch hitter doing both mary magdalin and of course there was james and his other "special friend". If you have made ragging on islam your life goal be my guest I for my part will continue to point out the hyocracy of your posts.

Fightdirecto -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/26/2013 7:35:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrBukani Muslims will lie to you because they are allowed to lie to non believers. The so called moderate muslims will not tell you the truth. And that truth is that the whole world must become muslim according to the prophet Mohammed. There is no 2 ways about that. Just like they put a veil on their women, they will put a veil on the truth to make you believe they are moderate. Your muslim friends will never admit it. Forget about it. You clearly have never listened to or read the positions of some allegedly "Christian" groups in the United States. They also teach that it is perfectly acceptable to lie to those who do not share their dogma in order to get themselves into political office so that they can pass laws based on their religious dogma. One good, recent example of this: former vice-presidential candidate for the Republican Party - Sarah Palin, member of an Assembly of God church, a radical fundamentalist Christian Dominionist/Christian Reconstructionist cult. Another, Ron Paul's Financial Advisor (and Christian Reconstructionist): Gary North: quote: "The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant -- baptism and holy communion -- must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel." "So let us be blunt: we must use the doctrine of religious liberty to gain independence for Christian schools until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will get busy in constructing a Bible-based social, political and religious order which finally denies the religious liberties of the enemies of God." "The question eventually must be raised: Is it a criminal offense to take the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse their parents, it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or daughter is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the family must be maintained by the threat of death. Clearly, cursing God (blasphemy) is a comparable crime, and is therefore a capital crime (Lev. 24:16)." Is requiring Moslem women to wear burquas terrible because it is demanded by a Moslem - but executing Americans who publicly say. "God damn it" acceptable to you - because it is being demanded by an American "Christian"? Is executing Americans who do not attend a specific "Christian" church acceptable to you - because it is being demanded by an American "Christian"? That is just one more of the things these "Christians" are hoping to set into American law. And yet you obsess about a fringe group of radical Moslems in other countries? Shouldn’t you be equally obsessed with these religious radicals closer to home? Because they are closer to home, they are a much greater danger to you and to the United States. [image]local://upfiles/42188/1F2F703603A04BABBBC64B44972F0041.jpg[/image]

WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/26/2013 9:23:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto You clearly have never listened to or read the positions of some allegedly "Christian" groups in the United States. They also teach that it is perfectly acceptable to lie to those who do not share their dogma in order to get themselves into political office so that they can pass laws based on their religious dogma. One good, recent example of this: former vice-presidential candidate for the Republican Party - Sarah Palin, member of an Assembly of God church, a radical fundamentalist Christian Dominionist/Christian Reconstructionist cult. yup i recollect one pastor preached some nasty stuff that tha church apologised for some yrs ago but when did palin lie bout being in tha wasilla assembly r being strongly christian? thought she was open bout all that.

Politesub53 -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/26/2013 10:21:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrBukani quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: MrBukani Muslims will lie to you because they are allowed to lie to non believers. The so called moderate muslims will not tell you the truth. And that truth is that the whole world must become muslim according to the prophet Mohammed. There is no 2 ways about that. Just like they put a veil on their women, they will put a veil on the truth to make you believe they are moderate. Your muslim friends will never admit it. Forget about it. Yawnssssss Yawning puts pressure on the gland to extract serotonine to keep you awake and make you feel good, feeling good? Have another cuppa coco.[:D] Even coccoa wont expunge your odious and highly inaccurate post.

MrBukani -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/26/2013 10:47:37 PM)
What is coccoa?[:D] All scripture is corrupted... Vae Victis Like the written law all can be circumvented and circumcized because it is left to interpertation and not to right. The scripture and law should not be left to doubt or believe. It should be beyond any doubt and it is not. So all things become unhinged to naught. The innocent burn and the guilty turn their heads in contempt There is no cure for inaccuracy, is there? temptation is like a flesheating bacteria that eats your damned soul. In case you might expunge your lunch... Take a spunge and clean your munch. tata[:D][:)][:@][:'(]say what?

MrBukani -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/26/2013 10:58:45 PM)
Now that's a naughty thompson twin. The sage of sodomy and sin. Jesus did James the just in an act of lust? Where do I find such delightfull scripts? Where he dicks between manhips. Isis he really the high priest of porn? And where did he put his crown of thorns? No wonder the word horny stems from horn.

tweakabelle -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/26/2013 11:36:41 PM)
quote: My point of contention is that I dislike propaganda. I'm opposed to downplaying the severity of what is a serious problem. I'm not very fond of propaganda either. I can't recall ever meeting any one who admitted to liking propaganda. So I'm not very clear what this statement is meant to achieve. Earlier in this thread, the claim that "Islam is more thuggish towards women than other other religions was dismissed as trash. So, you going to have to specify the "serious problem" you are referring to. As things stand I don't know what you are referring to.

Level -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/27/2013 3:42:20 AM)
Dismissed, not disproven.

Powergamz1 -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/27/2013 5:17:27 AM)
And you can keep on parroting the lie that I posted that I quote: thought there was no connection between religion/culture & thuggishness all you want, it is still a lie. You wrote those words, not me. The rest is simply your smirking game of hide and seek at the expense of the victims in those situations. quote: ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh yawns... yr a stubborn one arn't ya?<SNIP>

WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/27/2013 5:42:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Powergamz1 And you can keep on parroting the lie that I posted that I quote: thought there was no connection between religion/culture & thuggishness all you want, it is still a lie. You wrote those words, not me. where did i say ya wrote tha exact words "thought there was no connection between religion/culture & thuggishness"? i said they reflect yr position & i asked ya where exactly i had misrepresented your stance. instead all ya give me is more liar accusations. tha actual words i quoted are in quote boxes wit links to tha original posts so theres zero confusion. quote: The rest is simply your smirking game of hide and seek at the expense of the victims in those situations. ah so now i'm guilty of making tha situation worse for muslim women coz i wouldnt stand for yr strawmanning games. [X(]

Fightdirecto -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/27/2013 8:32:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh quote: ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto You clearly have never listened to or read the positions of some allegedly "Christian" groups in the United States. They also teach that it is perfectly acceptable to lie to those who do not share their dogma in order to get themselves into political office so that they can pass laws based on their religious dogma. One good, recent example of this: former vice-presidential candidate for the Republican Party - Sarah Palin, member of an Assembly of God church, a radical fundamentalist Christian Dominionist/Christian Reconstructionist cult. yup i recollect one pastor preached some nasty stuff that tha church apologised for some yrs ago but when did palin lie bout being in tha wasilla assembly r being strongly christian? thought she was open bout all that. Sarah Palin's Demon Haunted Churches - The Complete Edition Rick Warren's Dirty Dominionist Secret Palin's Churches and the Third Wave quote: The Apostles of the Third Wave believe that they hear directly from God, and have a divine mandate to form a new worldwide global church for the end times. The Third Wave leadership's greatest vitriol is directed toward those church-going Christians who are not open to the new visions and prophecies.... The movement is youth oriented, and is designed to raise a young `Joel's Army' which will dominate the world both spiritually and politically. All opposition to their goals is branded as evil. A glimpse into this world was shown in the movie Jesus Camp, which featured Becky Fisher, a former pastor of Morningstar Ministries, one of the best known Third Wave ministries, closely associated with Wagner. Youth are told that those born since 1973, the year of Roe vs. Wade, will take control of the world to present to Christ on his return.... The Third Wave/New Apostolic Reformation is one of the largest streams, but not the only movement which is now identified by the term Dominionist. The use of the term identifies those Christian groups which believe that they must work not only to improve the world, but that they are mandated to literally take dominion over society and government of the U.S and the earth. That which is considered evil must be fought and destroyed. Dominionists do not believe in the separation of church and state or religious pluralism. From the Third Wave/New Apostolic Reformation/Christian Reconstructionist Ideologue, R. J. Rushdooney: quote: Our goal is the developed Kingdom of God, the New Jerusalem, a world order under God's law. All who are content with a humanistic law system and do not strive to replace it with Biblical law are guilty of idolatry. God in His law requires the death penalty for homosexuals. We are to make Bible-obeying disciples of anybody that gets in our way. The Christians are caught in an intellectual bind. They use the doctrine of religious freedom to defend themselves, yet this involves, necessarily, the right of all other religious groups, including the satanic cults, to set up schools for their children and other people's children. It means, in short, that Christians windy up giving "equal time" in society to the devil.

Kirata -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/27/2013 10:17:32 AM)
I was under the impression that the topic of this thread was "Muslim Thugs," specifically the thuggery of Islamic Radicals. But since you're ranting about Sarah Palin, here's a concept for you: Sarah Palin is a person, not a church. There are few people in any church who support every pestilent jot and tittle of dogma. Some conservatives who are already upset that this week’s Conservative Political Action Conference will include a right-leaning organization that promotes gay rights grew even more concerned this weekend when Sarah Palin suggested that she, too, supports the group. ~ABC News Gay activists in Alaska said Palin has not worked actively against their interests... early in her administration she supported a bill to overrule a court decision to block state benefits for gay partners of public employees. ~Seattle Times The Seattle Times story makes a splashy headline out of her church promoting a gay-conversion event. But after four paragraphs of hand-wringing, it notes more or less parenthetically, as if irrelevant, that Palin, personally, had not to their knowledge actually expressed any view on the matter. Now look, I'm not a fan of Sarah Palin. But as you seem to want to barbeque her, allow me to inform you that the job has been done before, and done much better than you're doing. So is there any chance of getting back on topic here? K.

WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/27/2013 11:54:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto Sarah Palin's Demon Haunted Churches - The Complete Edition Rick Warren's Dirty Dominionist Secret Palin's Churches and the Third Wave i can kinda understand yr fear of christians if most of tha religious articles ya read are from talk2action. [X(]

Moonhead -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/27/2013 1:47:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata I was under the impression that the topic of this thread was "Muslim Thugs," specifically the thuggery of Islamic Radicals. But since you're ranting about Sarah Palin, here's a concept for you: Sarah Palin is a person, not a church. Specific muslim radicals are people, not churches as well. Most of the blather about caribou Barbie appears to be attempting (and apparently failing) to make a point about that.

mnottertail -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/27/2013 2:04:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata I was under the impression that the topic of this thread was "Muslim Thugs," specifically the thuggery of Islamic Radicals. But since you're ranting about Sarah Palin, here's a concept for you: Sarah Palin is a person, not a church. Specific muslim radicals are people, not churches as well. Most of the blather about caribou Barbie appears to be attempting (and apparently failing) to make a point about that. 'Ear now, I fawt dem Thugees was Hindi blokes, wot?

Moonhead -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/27/2013 2:07:22 PM)
Only to the extent that Mormons are Christians, old boy. [;)]

GotSteel -> RE: Muslim thugs (3/27/2013 5:29:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrBukani quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: MrBukani It is obvious in this case these muslims worship the devil and not God. They punish the innocent. And the statement social indifference is the cause, instead of religion is false. Muslim men dont want muslim women to have the same rights. Is there any mention in the Koran women can marry three men? No there is not and you cannot in any way change their scripture. Because according to them it's the word of Allah. Gender equality is impossible within Islam. This is different than christianity in which way? Can you read? Did Jesus say you can have four wives and I'll have 9?[:D] Here you go [image]local://upfiles/566126/B805B0EBC93B4A2A9ACA029F3DD2D106.gif[/image]

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