freedomdwarf1
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ORIGINAL: lizi So do people in London ever do anything? Do they date? See movies? Go to the store? Attend school? Do they have jobs to get to? Do people in London visit friends or relatives? Do they ever have coffee at a cafe or lunch just for the hell of it? Do Londoners go do cool London things like see shows or play? If any of these locations they are traveling to are not just outside their door, do they get to those locations somehow? If they do any of those things I'm sure they can figure out how to open the door and leave their house without becoming impoverished or impossibly burdened by the angst of having to get somewhere in London. If it costs $10 to get somewhere on a bus then I guess that's the price the guy pays for the possibility that he'll hit it lucky. It isn't a hard concept. Fyi, I've lived in one of the most expensive cities in the world on a limited income without a car, for 6 years. I attended college, had an active social life, worked, and raised a child as a single parent on a limited income all at the same time. I didn't spontaneously combust at the problems inherent in getting anywhere when I lived there, I accepted that as part of life and set out to find ways to carry on with what I wanted to do. London surely seems to have it's own inherent problems and somehow I think people manage to carry on with life in spite of that. If the OP, like you, chooses not to leave his immediate area, then he accepts the consequence of not meeting anyone through that route and his options are more limited. Btw, he'd have to get out and navigate London somehow if he met someone through the internet and wished to move into real life. The OP hasn't even explored the real life option yet, perhaps there is a munch or meeting he could walk to, he has no idea at this point. It's only being suggested that he should try a new avenue rather then keep trying something that hasn't worked out too well for him. Many londoners do many things that you speak of but most of the 'places to see' are in central London and easy to get to/from as I explained earlier - spokes of a bike wheel. Most of the munches aren't in central London - they are out in the 'burbs. So unless he's local to one or it just happens to be en-route on a journey to/from central London it's going to be very time-consuming and expensive just to get to a munch. Just like where we are 50 miles outside of the centre of London. Nearest munch to us (if we wanted to go) is only 25 miles away. Theoretically, only 30 minutes drive down the motorway and only a slight deviation from the main route into London central. So... 20 minutes on the motorway, 3+ hours for that 'slight' deviation of 3 miles off the main route. And.... no parking anywhere in sight unless you want to pay £3.50/hr ($5.60/hr) on a parking meter that has a 2-hour max waiting limit (if you can find one!!) then an £80 ($128) fine if it goes over by just *one* second. And that's assuming you don't actually get your car towed away to the pound and that cost runs into hundreds of £'s to get it back (apart from the inconvenience). It's waaay too far to walk. Taxi?? About £60 ($96) each way! So... to go to our 'local' munch would involve a 6+ hour journey and a lot of expense - not counting whatever we actually spend at the munch itself. And again, food and drink is very expensive here compared to the US. London (or any major city in the UK) is nothing like the US. To travel anywhere off-course is very expensive and very time-consuming and that in itself can be prohibitive. It's not a case of 'choosing' not to leave the immediate area. Quite often, the sheer cost of doing so is prohibitive. If you are on benefits or a low wage - you just can't afford it. Simple as that. So anything OP wants to do R/L is very likely to have to be extremely local or he can't participate.
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