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TricklessMagic -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 6:01:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef She's a fucking idiot. Just as bad as the senator who voted voted to include firearms with barrel shrouds in the original AWB and didn't have any idea what they were. Who elects these morons? I can't remember that idiots name but if I remember right she said something like "the barrel shroud, that's the thing on the shoulder that goes up." We already had common sense gun laws pre-Sandy Hook, now we have anti-American gun laws post.

thompsonx -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 6:59:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: Yachtie Here's a YUK YUK -[8D] CO Democrat Doesn't Understand High-Capacity Magazines Can Be Reloaded She wasn't qualified to vote on the bill let alone sponsor it. Yet she's a Democrat and she does vote. This is part of why Pro-RKBA can't have a legitimate dialog with the anti-Americans. They don't know what the fuck they are talking about most of the time. Yes do some have an inkling, sure. But most are willfully ignorant fools or complete idiots. Why is it that you feel that those who disagree with you are anti-aerican? Or is that just your little trick to make you think your arguement is superior?

thompsonx -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 7:00:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr I'd rather go hunting with Dick Cheney than driving with Ted Kennedy It was only dangerous to drive with teddy when you are knocked up...are you knocked up?

Nosathro -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 7:19:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic quote: ORIGINAL: stef She's a fucking idiot. Just as bad as the senator who voted voted to include firearms with barrel shrouds in the original AWB and didn't have any idea what they were. Who elects these morons? I can't remember that idiots name but if I remember right she said something like "the barrel shroud, that's the thing on the shoulder that goes up." We already had common sense gun laws pre-Sandy Hook, now we have anti-American gun laws post. Well if we had common sense gun laws, how did Sandy Hook happen, oh that's right an irresponsible gun owner NRA member left her guns out. Who's the idiot now.

TricklessMagic -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 7:34:57 AM)
So after Columbine, Virginia Tech, etc. etc. etc. the school hadn't put together it needed at least one armed guard on the premises to prevent a "Shooting Fish In A Barrel" scenario, or at leat make the attempt. Nope the school did nothing in the face of reality and now millions of gun owners are supposed to suffer. Nope doesn't cut it. If your kid is going to a school without a resource officer or armed guard then you ought to consider putting your kid elsewhere. Or you could do a fund raiser so a private guard or off duty officer could be hired. None of this happened. Now anti-American laws are being passed in this country by anti-American fools who don't even know what they are talking about. quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic quote: ORIGINAL: stef She's a fucking idiot. Just as bad as the senator who voted voted to include firearms with barrel shrouds in the original AWB and didn't have any idea what they were. Who elects these morons? I can't remember that idiots name but if I remember right she said something like "the barrel shroud, that's the thing on the shoulder that goes up." We already had common sense gun laws pre-Sandy Hook, now we have anti-American gun laws post. Well if we had common sense gun laws, how did Sandy Hook happen, oh that's right an irresponsible gun owner NRA member left her guns out. Who's the idiot now.

TricklessMagic -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 7:41:34 AM)
Someone simply disagreeing with me doesn't make them anti-American. Wanting laws that disarm American and infringe upon the 2nd Amendment is anti-American. If I tried to restrict someone's first amendment rights that would make me anti-American but I'm not trying to restrict anyone's freedom of speech. You have the right to your opinion and to share it just as I do, I may not agree with it but I have no desire to infringe upon it so long as the Constitution stands. To clarify, you want to disarm Americans, anti-American. You want to infringe upon the 2nd Amendment, anti-American. Communism is anti-American. Fascism is anti-American. And guess what I'll add this, you want to deny homosexual marriage, anti-American. You want to deny abortion, anti-American. That's my opinion. It used to be gunnies called the anti-RKBA types antis but that's not good enough anymore. It's better just to put them in the anti-American group and deal with them accordingly. Unless an anti is suggesting real compromise or addressing the real issues of mental health behind these shootings, there is no point in looking at them as anything other than enemies. Granted the rule of law still stands so their civil rights must be respected but there's nothing wrong with thinking of them as enemies and preparing for the day the rule of law might fall. quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: Yachtie Here's a YUK YUK -[8D] CO Democrat Doesn't Understand High-Capacity Magazines Can Be Reloaded She wasn't qualified to vote on the bill let alone sponsor it. Yet she's a Democrat and she does vote. This is part of why Pro-RKBA can't have a legitimate dialog with the anti-Americans. They don't know what the fuck they are talking about most of the time. Yes do some have an inkling, sure. But most are willfully ignorant fools or complete idiots. Why is it that you feel that those who disagree with you are anti-aerican? Or is that just your little trick to make you think your arguement is superior?

Hillwilliam -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 7:46:43 AM)
It seems that there are people who use the analogy of "people who have guns still get killed, therefore we don't need guns". Would you say the same about seat belts? People die in car wrecks where they were belted all the time. Can you see the utter idiocy of that analogy now?

Nosathro -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 8:31:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic So after Columbine, Virginia Tech, etc. etc. etc. the school hadn't put together it needed at least one armed guard on the premises to prevent a "Shooting Fish In A Barrel" scenario, or at leat make the attempt. Nope the school did nothing in the face of reality and now millions of gun owners are supposed to suffer. Nope doesn't cut it. If your kid is going to a school without a resource officer or armed guard then you ought to consider putting your kid elsewhere. Or you could do a fund raiser so a private guard or off duty officer could be hired. None of this happened. Now anti-American laws are being passed in this country by anti-American fools who don't even know what they are talking about. quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic quote: ORIGINAL: stef She's a fucking idiot. Just as bad as the senator who voted voted to include firearms with barrel shrouds in the original AWB and didn't have any idea what they were. Who elects these morons? I can't remember that idiots name but if I remember right she said something like "the barrel shroud, that's the thing on the shoulder that goes up." We already had common sense gun laws pre-Sandy Hook, now we have anti-American gun laws post. Well if we had common sense gun laws, how did Sandy Hook happen, oh that's right an irresponsible gun owner NRA member left her guns out. Who's the idiot now. I think you need a few classes on government and democracy.

Nosathro -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 8:42:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic So after Columbine, Virginia Tech, etc. etc. etc. the school hadn't put together it needed at least one armed guard on the premises to prevent a "Shooting Fish In A Barrel" scenario, or at leat make the attempt. Nope the school did nothing in the face of reality and now millions of gun owners are supposed to suffer. Nope doesn't cut it. If your kid is going to a school without a resource officer or armed guard then you ought to consider putting your kid elsewhere. Or you could do a fund raiser so a private guard or off duty officer could be hired. None of this happened. Now anti-American laws are being passed in this country by anti-American fools who don't even know what they are talking about. quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic quote: ORIGINAL: stef She's a fucking idiot. Just as bad as the senator who voted voted to include firearms with barrel shrouds in the original AWB and didn't have any idea what they were. Who elects these morons? I can't remember that idiots name but if I remember right she said something like "the barrel shroud, that's the thing on the shoulder that goes up." We already had common sense gun laws pre-Sandy Hook, now we have anti-American gun laws post. Well if we had common sense gun laws, how did Sandy Hook happen, oh that's right an irresponsible gun owner NRA member left her guns out. Who's the idiot now. Columbine did have an armed guard who did engage (and by that I mean gunshots) Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. Virgina Tech Police, armed police were already looking for Cho when he locked the doors and started shooting. The laws that have been recently passed were done well within the laws of each state, nothing anti american about it. The one story I like about armed guards at school is the NRA trained guard who left his gun in a bathroom. The only Anti American here is you, who does like the process of law.

thompsonx -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 9:02:20 AM)
quote: Someone simply disagreeing with me doesn't make them anti-American. Wanting laws that disarm American and infringe upon the 2nd Amendment is anti-American. What you are saying is that because they interpret the 2nd ammendment differently than you they are anti-american. How bout we make the same arguement about the 1st ammendment...Do you have the freedom to shout fire in a cowded theater when there is no fire? Is one anti-american to claim you don't? No... you think you have found a clever little trick to do a little name calling while doing the red white and blue dance. The only one being anti-american here is you and your "tail gunner joe"approach to discussion. You do the cause of the 2nd ammendment folks no service when you post this sort of assinine rhetoric. I am a life member of the nra,having joined before you were born,my definition of gun control is use both hands and breath,relax,aim,slack,squeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzz. quote: If I tried to restrict someone's first amendment rights that would make me anti-American but I'm not trying to restrict anyone's freedom of speech. What you are doing is trying to create a "straw man" arguement...that does not work in debate class and it sure as fuck wont work here. quote: You have the right to your opinion and to share it just as I do, I may not agree with it but I have no desire to infringe upon it so long as the Constitution stands. Are you saying that if the constitution were no longer in force you would arbitrarily seek to abridge another human being's right to free speech?...Do you even think before you hit enter? quote: To clarify, you want to disarm Americans, anti-American. You want to infringe upon the 2nd Amendment, anti-American. Communism is anti-American. Fascism is anti-American. Nice segue...just how do you get that communism and fascism are anti-american? quote: It used to be gunnies called the anti-RKBA types antis but that's not good enough anymore. It's better just to put them in the anti-American group and deal with them accordingly. Unless an anti is suggesting real compromise or addressing the real issues of mental health behind these shootings, there is no point in looking at them as anything other than enemies. Granted the rule of law still stands so their civil rights must be respected but there's nothing wrong with thinking of them as enemies and preparing for the day the rule of law might fall. And what precisely would you do should that day come?

TricklessMagic -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 10:26:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: Someone simply disagreeing with me doesn't make them anti-American. Wanting laws that disarm American and infringe upon the 2nd Amendment is anti-American. What you are saying is that because they interpret the 2nd ammendment differently than you they are anti-american. How bout we make the same arguement about the 1st ammendment...Do you have the freedom to shout fire in a cowded theater when there is no fire? Is one anti-american to claim you don't? No... you think you have found a clever little trick to do a little name calling while doing the red white and blue dance. The only one being anti-american here is you and your "tail gunner joe"approach to discussion. You do the cause of the 2nd ammendment folks no service when you post this sort of assinine rhetoric. I am a life member of the nra,having joined before you were born,my definition of gun control is use both hands and breath,relax,aim,slack,squeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzz. quote: If I tried to restrict someone's first amendment rights that would make me anti-American but I'm not trying to restrict anyone's freedom of speech. What you are doing is trying to create a "straw man" arguement...that does not work in debate class and it sure as fuck wont work here. quote: You have the right to your opinion and to share it just as I do, I may not agree with it but I have no desire to infringe upon it so long as the Constitution stands. Are you saying that if the constitution were no longer in force you would arbitrarily seek to abridge another human being's right to free speech?...Do you even think before you hit enter? quote: To clarify, you want to disarm Americans, anti-American. You want to infringe upon the 2nd Amendment, anti-American. Communism is anti-American. Fascism is anti-American. Nice segue...just how do you get that communism and fascism are anti-american? quote: It used to be gunnies called the anti-RKBA types antis but that's not good enough anymore. It's better just to put them in the anti-American group and deal with them accordingly. Unless an anti is suggesting real compromise or addressing the real issues of mental health behind these shootings, there is no point in looking at them as anything other than enemies. Granted the rule of law still stands so their civil rights must be respected but there's nothing wrong with thinking of them as enemies and preparing for the day the rule of law might fall. And what precisely would you do should that day come? Well since the left is quick to say that the Constitution won't be done away with and this country will never collapse, and the rule of law will always stand, what does it matter what I would or would not do. It's moot lol. By their view on things the condition subsequent would never occur. If the Constitution and Bill of Rights is destroyed do we still have an American nation or some diseased anti-American nation? How is communism and fascism anti-American, hmm really? Guess infringing on liberties and private property is completely American in your view, glad we don't share it. The days of the silent majority is gone. We're polarized now and your either for or against.

stef -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 11:20:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic quote: ORIGINAL: stef She's a fucking idiot. Just as bad as the senator who voted voted to include firearms with barrel shrouds in the original AWB and didn't have any idea what they were. Who elects these morons? I can't remember that idiots name but if I remember right she said something like "the barrel shroud, that's the thing on the shoulder that goes up." Yup, she's the one. She's a congresscritter, not a senator. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY).

Nosathro -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 11:34:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic quote: ORIGINAL: stef She's a fucking idiot. Just as bad as the senator who voted voted to include firearms with barrel shrouds in the original AWB and didn't have any idea what they were. Who elects these morons? I can't remember that idiots name but if I remember right she said something like "the barrel shroud, that's the thing on the shoulder that goes up." Yup, she's the one. She's a congresscritter, not a senator. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY). quote: Carolyn McCarthy McCarthy has always served as a Democrat, she did not change her voter registration from Republican until 2003. She got into politics and gun control after December 7, 1993 when her husband, Dennis, was killed and her son, Kevin, severely injured on a Long Island Rail Road commuter train at the Merillon Avenue station, when spree killer, Colin Ferguson. In her last election 2012, she got 138,561 votes winning her the election.

Yachtie -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 12:00:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro McCarthy has always served as a Democrat, she did not change her voter registration from Republican until 2003. She got into politics and gun control after December 7, 1993 when her husband, Dennis, was killed and her son, Kevin, severely injured on a Long Island Rail Road commuter train at the Merillon Avenue station, when spree killer, Colin Ferguson. In her last election 2012, she got 138,561 votes winning her the election. Plagiarize Wikipedia much? On December 7, 1993, her husband, Dennis, was killed and her son, Kevin, severely injured on a Long Island Rail Road commuter train at the Merillon Avenue station, when spree killer, Colin Ferguson, opened fire on passengers.[4] [8\|]

Nosathro -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 12:28:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Yachtie quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro McCarthy has always served as a Democrat, she did not change her voter registration from Republican until 2003. She got into politics and gun control after December 7, 1993 when her husband, Dennis, was killed and her son, Kevin, severely injured on a Long Island Rail Road commuter train at the Merillon Avenue station, when spree killer, Colin Ferguson. In her last election 2012, she got 138,561 votes winning her the election. Plagiarize Wikipedia much? On December 7, 1993, her husband, Dennis, was killed and her son, Kevin, severely injured on a Long Island Rail Road commuter train at the Merillon Avenue station, when spree killer, Colin Ferguson, opened fire on passengers.[4] [8\|] Never claimed it was mine and you are distrubing my lunch I am trying to enjoy a nice T-bone steak.

Yachtie -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 12:43:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: Yachtie quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro McCarthy has always served as a Democrat, she did not change her voter registration from Republican until 2003. She got into politics and gun control after December 7, 1993 when her husband, Dennis, was killed and her son, Kevin, severely injured on a Long Island Rail Road commuter train at the Merillon Avenue station, when spree killer, Colin Ferguson. In her last election 2012, she got 138,561 votes winning her the election. Plagiarize Wikipedia much? On December 7, 1993, her husband, Dennis, was killed and her son, Kevin, severely injured on a Long Island Rail Road commuter train at the Merillon Avenue station, when spree killer, Colin Ferguson, opened fire on passengers.[4] [8\|] Never claimed it was mine and you are distrubing my lunch I am trying to enjoy a nice T-bone steak. You sure as fuck did, by omission. How could it be interpreted otherwise without attribution? Shit, you couldn't even be bothered to using quote marks. Plagiarist.[:'(]

Hillwilliam -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 12:47:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: Yachtie quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro McCarthy has always served as a Democrat, she did not change her voter registration from Republican until 2003. She got into politics and gun control after December 7, 1993 when her husband, Dennis, was killed and her son, Kevin, severely injured on a Long Island Rail Road commuter train at the Merillon Avenue station, when spree killer, Colin Ferguson. In her last election 2012, she got 138,561 votes winning her the election. Plagiarize Wikipedia much? On December 7, 1993, her husband, Dennis, was killed and her son, Kevin, severely injured on a Long Island Rail Road commuter train at the Merillon Avenue station, when spree killer, Colin Ferguson, opened fire on passengers.[4] [8\|] Never claimed it was mine and you are distrubing my lunch I am trying to enjoy a nice T-bone steak. When something is submitted in written form, it is assumed to be the intellectual property of the writer. To cut and paste or take the writings of another without quoting or attribution is legally, ethically and academically considered plagiarism. A person with "multiple advanced degrees" should know that little factoid. [:D]

Nosathro -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 1:07:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: Yachtie quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro McCarthy has always served as a Democrat, she did not change her voter registration from Republican until 2003. She got into politics and gun control after December 7, 1993 when her husband, Dennis, was killed and her son, Kevin, severely injured on a Long Island Rail Road commuter train at the Merillon Avenue station, when spree killer, Colin Ferguson. In her last election 2012, she got 138,561 votes winning her the election. Plagiarize Wikipedia much? On December 7, 1993, her husband, Dennis, was killed and her son, Kevin, severely injured on a Long Island Rail Road commuter train at the Merillon Avenue station, when spree killer, Colin Ferguson, opened fire on passengers.[4] [8\|] Never claimed it was mine and you are distrubing my lunch I am trying to enjoy a nice T-bone steak. When something is submitted in written form, it is assumed to be the intellectual property of the writer. To cut and paste or take the writings of another without quoting or attribution is legally, ethically and academically considered plagiarism. A person with "multiple advanced degrees" should know that little factoid. [:D] A-S-S-U-M-E-D

Hillwilliam -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 1:21:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: Yachtie quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro McCarthy has always served as a Democrat, she did not change her voter registration from Republican until 2003. She got into politics and gun control after December 7, 1993 when her husband, Dennis, was killed and her son, Kevin, severely injured on a Long Island Rail Road commuter train at the Merillon Avenue station, when spree killer, Colin Ferguson. In her last election 2012, she got 138,561 votes winning her the election. Plagiarize Wikipedia much? On December 7, 1993, her husband, Dennis, was killed and her son, Kevin, severely injured on a Long Island Rail Road commuter train at the Merillon Avenue station, when spree killer, Colin Ferguson, opened fire on passengers.[4] [8\|] Never claimed it was mine and you are distrubing my lunch I am trying to enjoy a nice T-bone steak. When something is submitted in written form, it is assumed to be the intellectual property of the writer. To cut and paste or take the writings of another without quoting or attribution is legally, ethically and academically considered plagiarism. A person with "multiple advanced degrees" should know that little factoid. [:D] A-S-S-U-M-E-D That is correct, "Assumed" in the legal, ethical and academic sense. When someone submits a body of writing, it is legally, ethically and academically assumed to be their creation unless they cite the author. To cut and paste or otherwise post the words of another without attribution is a very good legal, ethical and academic definition of the word 'plagiarism'. I knew it was plagiarized because the word "Democrat" was spelled properly.[:D]

BamaD -> RE: Head of Pro-gun group calls for taking away 2nd Amendment rights (4/4/2013 1:22:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic quote: ORIGINAL: stef She's a fucking idiot. Just as bad as the senator who voted voted to include firearms with barrel shrouds in the original AWB and didn't have any idea what they were. Who elects these morons? I can't remember that idiots name but if I remember right she said something like "the barrel shroud, that's the thing on the shoulder that goes up." We already had common sense gun laws pre-Sandy Hook, now we have anti-American gun laws post. That was Fienstien I think.

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