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njlauren -> RE: Explosions at Boston Marathon (4/16/2013 8:25:19 PM)
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ORIGINAL: TallullahHk
I'm not sure how this info came about but the chief of trauma at Mass General said he and their docs did not receive any training by Israeli physicians. Perhaps BMC received training? They are the best trauma hospital in the city if not the country.
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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ
The reason why the doctors handled the severe trauma so well yesterday was largely in part to specialised training they received by Israeli physicians.
[Boston] knew that bomb injuries were not part of their element and when they made revised disaster plans they asked Israeli doctors for their expertise.
I as a volunteer first responder years ago, and that kind of trauma training existed back then though it wasn't as sophisticated. With all due respect to the Israelis, keep in mind that military doctors for over 10 years have had to deal with traumatic injuries like this from troops wounded in afghanistan and Iraq, by IEDS and the like, and while it is never worth the cost, wars tend to advance treatment.
Something I heard our of Boston is that doctors are grateful that first responders are well trained, that they successfully used tourniquets to keep people from bleeding out yet not losing the limbs. Tourniquets are tricky, because you don't want to cut off all circulation if there is any hope of re-attaching a limb, so it takes some tricks to make it work right..apparently people up there knew what to do, and I suspect that training came from the military and what they have learned. I looked at an EMT manual recently and was surprised by some of the changes (they are still debating, though, about whether to give someone who is dehydrated cold water or warm water, or whether to have some salt in it or not...:)
The Israelis often have this mythical status, that because they have been under the gun for so long they have developed mystical tanks that can repel any armor piercing rounds, their military is so well trained no one could defeat them, they developed stealth capability that even the US can't penetrate and so forth, or that the Mossad is this all knowing presence that knows everything (they don't, they didn't do a good job before 9/11, they were caught as much as US intelligence was, and they also supported that Hussein had WMD's.....). The reality is Israel is a small country surrounded by a lot of hostiles, and they have developed unique things because they had to, but it isn't mystical either (though the Israeli's themselves don't mind, scares the piss out of their enemies:).
Okay, now the funny military story. I don't know if people noticed in the videos of the aftermath of the bombing, guys in full military fatigues jumping over barriers to help the wounded and such. I wondered if they were national guard or something, turns out contingent of Army guys ran the marathon in full fatigues and army boots, and then pitched in to help:)....Can you imagine running a marathon in army boots? Course, if the SEALS entered a team, they prob would do it with a full field pack just to show off *lol*.
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