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Zonie63 -> RE: Explosions at Boston Marathon (4/16/2013 5:56:01 AM)
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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1
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ORIGINAL: cordeliasub
This is so terrible. And so pointless....innocent people killed and injured and maimed.
And I do feel the same way about this as I did about people using those poor children less than 25 hours after Sandy Hook. Though I do understand why there are a couple of people here who would like to point out the hypocrisy of getting up in arms about using this after using Sandy Hook. That being said.....the real focus here should be on those hurt people and their families.
I do hope that they find out who is responsible and that those people are dealt with strongly. Even if they belong to a group we haven;t always made nice with....innocent people were blasted today, and they did NOT deserve to die.
I'm just playing Devils advocate here.
Much as I agree with your sentiments, when your countrymen go poking their nose into other countries business, kill, maim and blow up their people, send drones out to kill possibly one man and end up killing dozens of innocent women and children.... What else did you really expect??
Traditionally, if a country has a beef with another country, the expected course of action would be to recall their ambassadors, declare war, and then send out their army to fight the other country's army. Usually, the armies wear uniforms and carry flags so that there's no ambiguity about what's going on or why.
That might be something else one might expect in situations where there might be legitimate grievances against a government. Apart from that, one might expect attacks against government, military, or strategic targets, not civilian targets.
However, I haven't seen any indication that this was even a motive for the Boston attack.
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Did you shed so many tears and felt so repulsed when the Afghans and Pakistanis were murdered and maimed many times by US troops and drones?
I bet you didn't.
You feel such remorse, horror and anger because it's fellow Americans on home soil.
I think it's natural that people feel stronger about events closer to home than things that happen on the other side of the world. At this point, we don't even know who did it or what the motive was. It could be homegrown terrorists or even a lone nut mass murderer, just like we've had so many times before (only instead of using guns, they used bombs).
I read this morning that the Pakistani Taliban denied responsibility, so it may not have had anything to do with that.
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I'm not saying it's wrong.... But just put the boot on the other foot for a second.
They are just retaliating for things that were done to them by the US.
And I don't think it takes much thinking about who the purpetrators were.
Every person, group, or nation which does violence can say that they are "just retaliating for things that were done to them." Who gets to decide what's a legitimate reason for violence, retaliation, and war? Who can justify that, and under what circumstances?
The U.S. government has a position on this, too. They've told us the reasons they have drones and troops over there, and from their point of view, their reasons are perfectly justified and legitimate. Assuming that the perpetrators were retaliating for things that were done to them by the U.S., what were they thinking that this attack in Boston could accomplish? Do they really believe that the U.S. political leadership would just suddenly say "Oh gee, we must completely change our policies now" just because innocent Americans (whom our government never really cared about in the first place) were killed?
To be quite frank, I agree that the U.S. should withdraw from Afghanistan and Pakistan and put all the drones into storage. We should pull out everything and not poke our noses into other countries' business. Unfortunately, such decisions are not left up to me, and no one in the government ever bothers to consult me on these matters.
But every time terrorists strike against the U.S. in this manner, they're only guaranteeing that there will be more of the same from the U.S. government and military. There are those in the United States who would like our government to behave more responsibly, and just when it seems like some progress is being made in that regard, something like this happens and sets us back 10 years. That's the real sad part about all of this, in addition to the loss of life. It just never ends. It just keeps going on and on.
You seem to be saying that the U.S. is getting what it deserves. Maybe it does, but this doesn't really change anything. It just makes a bad situation even worse.
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I see this all too often from a major proportion of Americans on here and other sites.
It seems it's ok to push your own politics and tread on other people around the world, then gasp in OMG shock horror that sometimes you get blasted back by those you trod on.
Did you really expect them to lay down and just take it?
I am sometimes bewildered at the US state of mind and attitudes.
I don't see why it should be so bewildering for someone in the United Kingdom. Don't you have your own history with similar events happening to Brits? Your civilians have been bombed on numerous occasions - by the German Luftwaffe, by the IRA, by various independence and revolutionary groups around your former Empire. You're saying that you really can't understand why Americans react the way we do when your own people have reacted the same way under similar circumstances?
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