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When a very sizable percentage of the nation wants something, one would think the nation's government would understand that failing to perform will result in their jobs being given to someone else. Universal background checks are supported by just about everyone except the NRA Zombies!

We keep hearing all this rhetoric about the sizable percentage of the nation that supports this measure. The last time this issue successfully passed in Congress many of the very people who voted for it lost their jobs. Harry Reid talks about the long memory of the American voting public. Apparently Reid can't remember back to 1994. Apparently, very few of this sizable percentage bother to vote.

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And that is exactly why we can't have government in control of healthcare. If Jack Meoff wants to drown his kidneys in shit sugar water, then let the bastard. But, when you make it everyone else's problem to pay Jack's way, then you introduce the government almost having a duty to make sure the money isn't being wasted, that Jack no longer can be unhealthy.
What's next? Mandatory exercise programs? You think soda is bad for you? How about all us couch potatoes?

I'm envisioning something even more extreme.
How about an edict, added at some point in the future that says: " We're looking out for your best interests and making sure that your Obummercare tax dollars are spent wisely.
Toward that end; if you're more than 10 lbs. over what the government says your target weight should be and you have a piece of birthday cake, you'll have to pay an extra fine (although, I'm sure in front of the Supremes, they'd argue that it's a "fat tax") and if you're more than 50 pounds overweight and you do that, you'll get sentenced to a "fat farm" (and let's not forget that fine, please?)
Some of the Lefty lunes (that weren't cursed with a fluctuating weight issue) would be fine with that, of course.

Strangely no goverment run health care has ever done anything like that.
Also as I've explained over and over again, the ACA is not a take over of health care. it is a bunch of insurance regulations and a mandate that certain people must buy health insurance.

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When a very sizable percentage of the nation wants something, one would think the nation's government would understand that failing to perform will result in their jobs being given to someone else. Universal background checks are supported by just about everyone except the NRA Zombies!

We keep hearing all this rhetoric about the sizable percentage of the nation that supports this measure. The last time this issue successfully passed in Congress many of the very people who voted for it lost their jobs. Harry Reid talks about the long memory of the American voting public. Apparently Reid can't remember back to 1994. Apparently, very few of this sizable percentage bother to vote.

The last time background checks were implemented the NRA backed the proposal and it passed with overwhelming majorities in both houses.

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It's all over except for the whining.

Washington Post: Gun-control overhaul is defeated in Senate

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President Obama’s ambitious effort to overhaul the nation’s gun laws in response to December’s school massacre in Connecticut suffered a resounding defeat Wednesday, when every major proposal he championed fell apart on the Senate floor.

It was a stunning collapse for gun control advocates just four months after the deaths of 20 children and six adults in Newtown led the president and many others to believe that the political climate on guns had been altered in their favor.

heavily armed nut cases take precedence over a classroom of dead six yr. olds.

I have never been so proud of my country.

Let freedom ring.

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Yes have you actually stopped to understand the medical science surrounding soda's effects on the human body?

You want to go there? Fine. Have you ever stopped to consider the social and financial consequences to the nation of allowing human lemmings with a collective IQ barely above that of an average clam to vote?

K.

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When a very sizable percentage of the nation wants something, one would think the nation's government would understand that failing to perform will result in their jobs being given to someone else. Universal background checks are supported by just about everyone except the NRA Zombies!

We keep hearing all this rhetoric about the sizable percentage of the nation that supports this measure. The last time this issue successfully passed in Congress many of the very people who voted for it lost their jobs. Harry Reid talks about the long memory of the American voting public. Apparently Reid can't remember back to 1994. Apparently, very few of this sizable percentage bother to vote.

The last time background checks were implemented the NRA backed the proposal and it passed with overwhelming majorities in both houses.

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When a very sizable percentage of the nation wants something, one would think the nation's government would understand that failing to perform will result in their jobs being given to someone else. Universal background checks are supported by just about everyone except the NRA Zombies!

We keep hearing all this rhetoric about the sizable percentage of the nation that supports this measure. The last time this issue successfully passed in Congress many of the very people who voted for it lost their jobs. Harry Reid talks about the long memory of the American voting public. Apparently Reid can't remember back to 1994. Apparently, very few of this sizable percentage bother to vote.

The last time background checks were implemented the NRA backed the proposal and it passed with overwhelming majorities in both houses.

Why didn't it pass this time? And, if you don't speculate, I'll need citations...

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Ain't that the truth......I have friends who were members since their fathers signed them up.....they have since let their membership lapse.
They did/do not feel that they were,any longer ,being represented by that organization.

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Why didn't it pass this time? And, if you don't speculate, I'll need citations...

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Ain't that the truth......I have friends who were members since their fathers signed them up.....they have since let their membership lapse.
They did/do not feel that they were,any longer ,being represented by that organization.

I quit back around 2000. It seemed like every time I opened my mail they were begging for money to save gun rights from some new boogie man.

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Instead we got nothing, thanks to raving ideologues who can't get over their magical belief that guns are inherently evil.

K.

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Liz is confusing background checks with the assault weapons ban .
No sense in keeping these things straight when you are against them all in every instance anyway [8|]

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Ain't that the truth...

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K.

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Liz is confusing background checks with the assault weapons ban .
No sense in keeping these things straight when you are against them all in every instance anyway [8|]

You are every bit as biased as I am. Much more so, actually. I support expanding background checks to gun shows *and* private sales. I think they should apply to any gun sale. Actually, people like you and Owner59 serve a useful purpose in this debate. You keep the name calling and button pushing chatter at a high level. The downside of that is that it drowns out sensible discussion. The upside is that it drowns out the radicals who actually want to disarm us. I'll sacrifice the former to get the latter.