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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/26/2013 8:49:07 PM   
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I don't buy that explanation. The problem persists across several OSes, several browsers, several versions of all of these, on various devices ranging from smartphones to workstations, from users with several different connection schemes to several different providers in several different countries spanning at least three continents that I'm aware of. People that used not to have a problem. This doesn't exclude your hunch, but it does make it a less than ideal place to start looking for a cause.

Incidentally, I also don't buy that post #40 is a woman looking to get it on with me, but the site won't accept "spammer" as a valid reason to report a post.

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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/26/2013 9:13:07 PM   
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Hat tip to VAA.

I suspect an apology is beyond the call. Sometimes there are problems. Perfection is elusive. Things fall apart. Occasionally the coyotes swing thru the neighborhood looking for the neighbors cats. I may have taken that simile too far.

I think the thread is here to reassure folks having problems that it isn't just them.

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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/26/2013 9:21:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: FunCouple5280

Lately, I have been having major issues getting the boards to load. Just this site.

Has anyone else been fighting this?

CM works just fine. I did contact Admin and they said they were also having issues with it as well.

Just posting to commiserate.



Been having the IDENTIAL ISSUE ... doesn't matter the browser ... it is totally CM.

Other sites work fast and efficently ... but CM FORUMS etc ...

often can't be accessed

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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/26/2013 9:22:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: FrostedFlake

I think the thread is here to reassure folks having problems that it isn't just them.


Apparently useful, too, as it seems some have attributed it to local problems or invented rituals to get in.

In any case, it's been up for hours straight, now, which is impressive, relatively speaking.

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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/26/2013 9:47:48 PM   
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Yes, definitely having difficulties with collarchat.
I'm always able to get on collarme, but try to go the forum, and connection problems/blank page.
I hope it's not serious, and being free hasn't become an impossible issue to this site. M

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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/26/2013 10:01:02 PM   
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Thanks :)

Nice to see the response!

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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/26/2013 10:36:26 PM   
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Oops! Noticed Lady P already replied. M

< Message edited by BlkTallFullfig -- 4/26/2013 10:37:40 PM >


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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/27/2013 1:38:29 AM   
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General response to perhaps add a bit more understanding to the situation, albeit with a bit of speculation:

The problem, when it occurs, is completely independent of browser. I've done a few packet captures with Wireshark, and the failure occurs while attempting to establish the TCP connection with Collarchat's server. To establish a connection over which data can subsequently be exchanged, your computer and the server need to complete a "handshake" first, essentially to agree on how to communicate further. The data sent in the handshake is minimal and does not identify your OS or browser, so the server is unaware of the type of device trying to establish a connection during the process. Where the system has been breaking down is that computers requesting a connection have not been receiving a response to the first step of the handshake. After trying several times and getting no response, the requesting computer eventually gives up on the connection and the browser then displays an appropriate error about the failed connection. A browser doesn't get around to identifying itself until the HTTP GET request, which is never actually being made because the TCP handshake fails to complete. The bottom line? Switching your browser and OS will have no effect on the problem.

The problem does not appear to be with Collarchat's server. The server, as far as I am aware, has been up and functioning for the entire time the problem has persisted and doesn't appear to be overloaded. As noted in this thread, some users, like MasterG2kTR, have had no problems connecting. There is a chance that the server is intermittently deciding to preferentially ignore requests from certain IP addresses or ranges, but I don't think this is likely to be the case.

Instead, the issue is more likely to be that the paths along which data is sent from some users' computers to the server are never actually connecting with the intended destination. Some paths work fine, others don't. The path used to reach the server is heavily dependent on your location and ISP, but there can also be a relatively random element to it, as the Internet routes packets dynamically based on a number of factors and even data sent between the same two computers will not always take the same route. This accounts for users who are sometimes able to get through after repeated attempts – that successful request happens to get routed along a working path. Clicking on a magic combination of links before attempting to load the page won't do anything to improve your odds of success, so you can feel free to stop that – unless it happens to make you feel better. :)

These sorts of routing problems can be a bit difficult to diagnose and fix because they may not be consistently reproducible and can be caused by external network factors not under the control of the site administrators, or even of the site's hosting company. That said, I know that I, for one, would welcome more communication about the issue if it happens to recur yet again.

It looks like things are working at the moment, but if they should go south again, some suggestions of things to do that have a little more than voodoo behind them:

Verify the problem is not just with you. A very simple site like downforeveryoneorjustme.com or isup.me is a good first place to try. However, even if those sites show it as being just your problem, you may want to double-check with a more comprehensive service that tests from more than one location, like this one. If the outage seems to be affecting more locations than just you, consider notifying support.

If possible, switch the ISP you use to connect. With phones and tablets that have both WiFi and a cellular connection, this can mean simply using the other connection. The difference in the service provider is likely to see your packets routed differently and may allow you to connect reliably, as theshytype observed.

If possible, try using some proxy servers. A proxy adds an intermediate destination between your computer and the final destination server. This may force traffic with the server along a working path.

TL;DR:

To users:
  1. Switching browsers or OSes will not help you to access the site.
  2. Neither will clicking on specific links to get here, or specific combinations of links.
  3. Switching the network or network path you use to connect, on the other hand, may help.
  4. The problem may be more difficult to fix than it would appear, so patience won't hurt.
To admins:
  1. More communication about the issue, as time permits, would be awesome.

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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/27/2013 1:50:31 AM   
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i've been having loads of problems over the last couple of weeks getting in here. no problem with the other side at all though. now while VAA tells us the techs are working on it i'm guessing that it's a bit like working on an old labouring engine. at some point it has to be worth replacing the damn thing instead of replacing parts that constantly fail.

as others have stated i have no problems with the other side being down.....ever. again as with others i'm thinking this is to do with advertising.

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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/27/2013 3:39:09 AM   
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Thanks for an excellent and not too techy explanation of the issue.

I imagine I'm not the only one who would love you to weigh in on the issue of why it happens to collarchat and not collarme (the profile side).

I have noticed chrome sometimes has CM on it's list of dangerous websites and gives me an error warning. This is fairly new, the past month or so???




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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/27/2013 4:05:43 AM   
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As a lot of other people said, I've also been having the problem. This is actually the first time I've gotten a page to load here in days and days. I see the titles of the threads, but they never load. Good to know it's not just me.

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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/27/2013 4:11:20 AM   
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Omg, it has been three days since I could get on collar chat! Not happy about that.

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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/27/2013 5:05:31 AM   
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I didn't time out overnight; hooray!

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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/27/2013 5:19:44 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aswad
Incidentally, I also don't buy that post #40 is a woman looking to get it on with me, but the site won't accept "spammer" as a valid reason to report a post.

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I don't know much about what the automatic system considers a valid reason, but when I'm submitting a ticket for the forums, I find that one word, even a really good one for a reason like "spam" gives Me that error code as well. Just about anything with multiple words, such as "spam on discussion forums" will be accepted.

Hope that helps.



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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/27/2013 5:19:57 AM   
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Id rather have issues, even tho it is an addiction, and Ive been more than peeved in the last week or so, than have ads on the forum.


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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/27/2013 6:33:45 AM   
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As usual, shallowdeep, you have provided an almost plain English explanation of what may be occurring.

I am curious, however, how so many people could be having trouble with the paths/handshake thing. I realize a few people are not having any problems getting on this side at all, but the majority is. Simply looking at what new posts have occurred over the last couple of weeks will confirm that.

There has to be some way to deal with and fix the problem, since it hasn't always existed.

I think the important thing is that VAA or whoever keeps us up to date on what is going on. Even if she doesn't want to answer endless questions, she could post to the sticky or whatever it is called where she had the other post. No one can reply, but we can look there to see what to expect.

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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/27/2013 6:35:51 AM   
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Think about that for a moment. These are not two different websites. The advertising supports all of it, the profile side, this side, and all the other features.

I will certainly defer to shallowdeep who knows much more tech stuff than I do, but I would think that the other side not having the same amount of back and forth traffic could be a cause.

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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/27/2013 10:43:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Think about that for a moment. These are not two different websites. The advertising supports all of it, the profile side, this side, and all the other features.

I will certainly defer to shallowdeep who knows much more tech stuff than I do, but I would think that the other side not having the same amount of back and forth traffic could be a cause.


erm, yes they are. collarme.com and collarchat.com two different web sites linked to each other. i have several sites that work in the same way. hence why when there is advertising the cash gets spent on that site as it's pulling in the money. in actual terms of usage then collarme should actually generate much more traffic than this side. that would mean much more download space per page. there are thousands of members, new ones every day. pm's, photos, videos, gifs gallore, and the advertising that eats your download like no-ones business. this side has threads running and not really enough traffic to cause the problems going on.

i'm a member on much bigger forums than this with tons more traffic and content. they don't have the issues this site does because they are running modern programing. it has been said before that this forum is running on unsuitable programing.

it's a free site so hey who really cares. the cash gets spent where the cash is earnt. if that side starts running like this side people stop advertising.

now frankly i would still use this site with banner advertising running at the top. i use lots of sites that do and see no issue with that. i have far more problem with content as with some of the crap advertised on the other side.

a crappy script is a crappy scrip no matter how many people use it, or not.

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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/27/2013 11:22:33 AM   
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I have been having problems, and from what I can diagnose it isn't DNS issues, it probably is no net connectivity issues, but rather that the CM server is having problems. The fact that so many people with different ISP's living in different places have the problem rules out local influences, like maybe the ISP blocking it, and points to the other end. Based on what I have seen with it, I would agree with others it could be the sites programming or even more then likely, DB issues. There may simply be too much data on the site, it is causing DB interaction issues (like contention) and is locking users out. I don't think it is os related or browser related, I suspect if someone is getting in when others aren't it could be their username in the db is in such a place the software can access it. I have tried multiple platforms and OS's and browsers and when Betsy is down, it is down.

It could be the system simply needs to be restarted after cleaning up the db, maybe refactoring the db and/or cleaning up the system it resides on. For all we know CM runs on a VM machine rather than a real server, and the VM farm it is on is overloaded (VM=virtual machine).

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RE: Anyone Else struggling with CollarChat? - 4/27/2013 12:38:44 PM   
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I'm pretty confident that it's a problem with the German-fluted architecture of the programming. Once this is properly chamfered, the problem will be sorted out.

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