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RE: Texas Gov. vs. An Editorial Cartoon - 5/2/2013 1:58:13 PM

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Now, you must have missed my other posts where it is being shown that it wasn't a lack of regulations that led to this.

This from your link:
“They are trying to create an impression that no regulation could have prevented this tragedy and that is absurd,” said James Moore, director of Progress Texas, an Austin-based political action committee that supports Democratic candidates, said.

The Adair plant lacked adequate liability insurance for the risks stemming from its hazardous materials, Insurance Commissioner Eleanor Kitzman said. State officials have estimated the explosion caused $100 million of property damage.
So it would appear that even those in your link do not all agree with you.

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RE: Texas Gov. vs. An Editorial Cartoon - 5/2/2013 3:27:39 PM

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Oh, goodie, then lets blame it on W. Cuz ---well........it would be fact and Perry would be complicit by inaction and :
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/all-in-/51669040#51669040

here is one of Perry's deregulation quagmires as well as his blameshifting:
http://progresstexaspac.org/blog/gov-perry-equates-ut-sports-problems-penn-st-pedophilia-crisis

and here is another:
http://www.burntorangereport.com/tag/deregulation

and.....well, he seems rather insincere in his derailing of his culpability by shifting blame again and still, dont he?

It's that whole Republican "It's not my fault" thing in action again.
Which is a bit rich coming from somebody who's keen to claim credit for the (apparently) booming business climate in Texas that arises from the lack of regulation that's somebody else's fault if it blows shit up.

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RE: Texas Gov. vs. An Editorial Cartoon - 5/2/2013 5:16:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
Oh, goodie, then lets blame it on W. Cuz ---well........it would be fact and Perry would be complicit by inaction and :
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/all-in-/51669040#51669040
here is one of Perry's deregulation quagmires as well as his blameshifting:
http://progresstexaspac.org/blog/gov-perry-equates-ut-sports-problems-penn-st-pedophilia-crisis
and here is another:
http://www.burntorangereport.com/tag/deregulation
and.....well, he seems rather insincere in his derailing of his culpability by shifting blame again and still, dont he?

Haven't you been reading anything here, Ron? Perry didn't de-regulate anything. Thompson said so.

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RE: Texas Gov. vs. An Editorial Cartoon - 5/2/2013 5:27:25 PM

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Now, you must have missed my other posts where it is being shown that it wasn't a lack of regulations that led to this.

This from your link:
“They are trying to create an impression that no regulation could have prevented this tragedy and that is absurd,” said James Moore, director of Progress Texas, an Austin-based political action committee that supports Democratic candidates, said.
The Adair plant lacked adequate liability insurance for the risks stemming from its hazardous materials, Insurance Commissioner Eleanor Kitzman said. State officials have estimated the explosion caused $100 million of property damage.
So it would appear that even those in your link do not all agree with you.

What part of "not everyone thinks State regulators were at fault either" says that everyone thinks State regulators weren't at fault? You know, the text that served as the hyperlink to the article you are quoting?

Actually, there was a regulation (at least one, though I'm only going to rely on the one) that could have prevented this from happening. You know, the whole "if you have more than a ton of ammonium nitrate, you have to report it to the DHS" thing? Now, I'm not faulting DHS because West Texas Fertilizer didn't report their NH4NO3. I don't know if reporting it is anything more than a registry so it can be tracked, or if it signals to the DHS that regular inspections need to be done.

But, as was shown in links previously, NH4NO3 is a pretty stable chemical and investigators are thinking that the heat from the fire is what triggered it to explode. Now, having that much NH4NO3 apparently isn't what caused the explosion. The explosion was caused by the fire. I haven't read how long West Texas Fertilizer had that much NH4NO3 on hand, so I have no idea how long it hadn't been involved in an explosion.

Still. Not everyone agrees that this was a regulatory failure at the State level.

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RE: Texas Gov. vs. An Editorial Cartoon - 5/2/2013 6:08:32 PM

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I don't know, guess I was wrong and actually chose to misunderstand. <sarcasm>

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In post 103 I make it quite clear. So If I have already made it clear how can miscommunication be possible except by choice?

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