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Powergamz1 -> RE: Politics and consumerism (5/5/2013 7:47:08 PM)
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No, that's called spin. You specifically claim people who don't want you on their private property unless you follow their rules are 'anti-2nd amendment'. Bull. They could be the reincarnation of James Madison, and have every right to say 'no outside guns in my premises'. Same thing for people who own businesses at high risk for armed robbery. The two positions aren't mutually exclusive.
And 'Now I could be wrong but'... WTF?? 'Operated under'? So you are carrying in public, and you haven't even bothered to learn the basic laws on the matter?
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.06.html
Let me guess, 'sovereign citizens don't need no stinking permits'. [8|] [8|]
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ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic
Eh in Florida it's against the law to carry concealed firearms into a bank. Now I could be wrong but that's the impression I've operated under. And it's your opinion there is no difference but I can't put my life savings into an account in a jewelry. A jewelry store is a retailer, just like a clothing store, pawnshop, or other dealer in goods.
I'm not saying jewelry stores don't have the right. I'm simply saying I refuse to shop there, that's my right, it's also my right to share that info with the public if I so choose. I don't have the right to stop others from shopping there or demanding the jeweler shut down, I just have the right to choose how I spend my money and let others have the info with which to make their decisions. It's okay, the jewelry store I go to is privately owned and the owner and I are gun folk. I handled his wife's concealed carry course qualifier, and his prices are superior (I met him two years after discovering the issue with the other store). He doesn't put up signs preventing law abiding folks from lawfully carrying "concealed firearms" because the reality, the simple reality, is that the sign won't stop criminals, only law abiding people. I realize that reality is lost on some folks.
Okay the issue of private property, again, I repeat, pay attention. I'm not saying they don't have the right. I'm simply saying I choose not to spend my money in establishments that operate in such fashion. I'm not stopping anyone from patronizing them. Okay, got it, do you understand? Do you need any more help? If controlling their property is such a concern where law abiding people lawfully carrying firearms is such a concern, then foregoing my patronage is an acceptable loss to them as well as the loss of others who disagree with them. I'm not trying to interfere with their rights. I'm not protesting in front of their store, I'm simply adding their name to a list of businesses that are anti-2nd Amendment so others can make their own choices about whether or not to do business with them. That's called freedom of speech, okay?
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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1
You are contradicting yourself. There is no difference between walking into a jewelry store and walking into a bank with a gun.
They are both private property, and they both have a good reason to know who is and isn't armed on their property, based on the much higher likelihood of a robbery on such premises. If you had said coffeeshop or clothing store that wouldn't be so much of an issue.
And as with most people who don't give a rat's ass about the Constitution or the rights of others, you are pretending that what private individuals do on their private property to protect themselves is violating your rights...... Which is simply ignorance of the facts of life.
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ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic
Your business, your right to choose, and then it's my right to choose not to spend my money at your business. And then tell everyone I know, and the internet, that you are against lawful concealed carry of firearms and let them decide. I live in Florida, concealed carry is legal. And concealed means "concealed." I carry concealed anywhere that's not a bank, courthouse, or hospital and I rarely go to hospitals. I went jogging today and I had a Model 40 S&W .38 special in concealed holster. I went out grocery shopping later and i had Glock 23 in my left jeans pocket behind my fat leather wallet. I've never once been called out for carrying and I used to carry a Brazilian Contract Colt 1917 that came to me a wreck with a bent barrel at the three inch mark, that I nickel plated and shortened the barrel to two inches, dehorned the hammer, I left the trigger guard, no need to Fitz it. It was a big pistol that I carried in a shoulder holster or back carry (made my own custom leather flat pack carry with padding).
Grocery stores in Florida let people carry guns so long as they are concealed, gas stations, movie theaters, restaraunts, gyms, bookstores (I get a Latee three to four times a week at a nearby bookstore and I always have at least one gun on my person).
Now I understand you are from Maryland and folks don't operate like us southerners. Somehow you folks from New England (except for New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine, Rhode Island, New York that isn't part of the five boroughs known as NYC) just get scared shitless over gun ownership and such. I don't get the big deal, but then I don't have to. I don't get what's so scary over someone going about their business with a gun on their hip. Doesn't bother me when I go to Georgia to visit family or hunting (usually an occassion for both). Now someone waving a gun around would be grounds for concern, surely. But I guess some folks just think folks are evil and dangerous, I mean with all the crazy anti-American laws in New York, Maryland, Illinois, California, D.C. I guess those folks in those parts have a greater tendency for it.
If you can't see my gun, how do you know I have a gun? My grandfather who lived in NYC broke the law for everyday he lived in NYC, he always carried a Colt 1903 .32 ACP and snub nose .38 revolver till the day he passed in a hospital at the ripe old age of 89. But hey, you think what you want, even if it's wrong.
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