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DesideriScuri -> RE: Politics and consumerism (5/8/2013 12:53:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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Except people like me, who gave money to SGK, do have a say. I stopped donating money the day they announced this political move.

Nope. It isn't up to you at all. The only thing up to you is who you donate your money to. That's it. After that, it's not your money, but theirs. The get to decide after that.
Why did you stop donating to SGK? Because they cut PP out of their portfolio of who gets their money?

The entirely right wing political reason and person behind the move.

You stopped donating to SGK because they stopped giving to PP?

Because of the way and reason they tried to. I am not alone BTW. SGK donations ae way down.


The way? The reason? What other way would have been acceptable? PP isn't a provider and SGK wants to give to providers, not referral services. WTF is wrong with that?

I'd really like to understand what "way" SGK stopped funding for PP and why you didn't like it.




DomKen -> RE: Politics and consumerism (5/8/2013 2:04:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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Except people like me, who gave money to SGK, do have a say. I stopped donating money the day they announced this political move.

Nope. It isn't up to you at all. The only thing up to you is who you donate your money to. That's it. After that, it's not your money, but theirs. The get to decide after that.
Why did you stop donating to SGK? Because they cut PP out of their portfolio of who gets their money?

The entirely right wing political reason and person behind the move.

You stopped donating to SGK because they stopped giving to PP?

Because of the way and reason they tried to. I am not alone BTW. SGK donations ae way down.


The way? The reason? What other way would have been acceptable? PP isn't a provider and SGK wants to give to providers, not referral services. WTF is wrong with that?

I'd really like to understand what "way" SGK stopped funding for PP and why you didn't like it.


It was a very transparent attack on an abortion provider for being an abortion provider by a politcian who was well known for her anti choice position. That's why so many donors and volunteers revolted.





FunCouple5280 -> RE: Politics and consumerism (5/8/2013 2:26:04 PM)

Considering SGK association with women, and the overwhelming support women have for pro-choice, it was an extremely bone-headed move.....Regardless of the politics.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Politics and consumerism (5/8/2013 6:22:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
It was a very transparent attack on an abortion provider for being an abortion provider by a politcian who was well known for her anti choice position. That's why so many donors and volunteers revolted.


SGK is run by a politician?

Do you donate to PP? Did you shift your SGK donations to PP?




DomKen -> RE: Politics and consumerism (5/8/2013 6:30:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
It was a very transparent attack on an abortion provider for being an abortion provider by a politcian who was well known for her anti choice position. That's why so many donors and volunteers revolted.


SGK is run by a politician?

Do you donate to PP? Did you shift your SGK donations to PP?


SGK hired the former Georgia Secratary of State Karen Handel as SVP of public policy. She is vehemently anti choice. During her losing run for Governor prior to taking the SKG job she had advocated defunding PP. Multiple sources indicated the new rule to not fund any organization being investigated by any government entity was a ploy to cover up true goal to defund PP.

I have always donated to PP . My SGK donations were split between PP and my prefered microlender.




Owner59 -> RE: Politics and consumerism (5/8/2013 6:40:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

How much of your nose are you willing to cut off to spite your face?

Would I refuse to go to the best cancer treatment center in the area because I saw a bumper sticker I didn't like in the staff parking lot? Not fucking likely.

Would I switch coffee shops if the owner kept the talk radio stooges blaring on the radio? Very fucking likely.


Fast reply:



Thank goodness we don`t need to face choices that are so grim.

Boycotting is as American as apple pie.

With today`s social media,one doesn`t actually have to take part themselves.Just sharing and spreading the word and the downsides that causes the targets is pretty ample ammo.

This is America and we`re still free to vote with our dollars, if we choose so.

And if an American wants to play in the political game,they have to take what comes with it,.....good and bad.

They certainly don`t deserve.......... and should`t expect to be exempt from being rejected by the public.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Politics and consumerism (5/8/2013 6:53:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
SGK hired the former Georgia Secratary of State Karen Handel as SVP of public policy. She is vehemently anti choice. During her losing run for Governor prior to taking the SKG job she had advocated defunding PP. Multiple sources indicated the new rule to not fund any organization being investigated by any government entity was a ploy to cover up true goal to defund PP.
I have always donated to PP . My SGK donations were split between PP and my prefered microlender.


Thank you for answering my questions without blathering on about asswipe or other bullshit.






Powergamz1 -> RE: Politics and consumerism (5/8/2013 10:07:04 PM)

Don't want to spoil your dining pleasure, but you are aware that not everyone thinks that Chipotles is the happy shiny people place they market themselves as, right?

http://www.ciw-online.org/Chipotle_debate.html


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Let's suppose there is a business in your area who is the very best in your area for whatever product or service they provide. For the purposes of this discussion it really doesn't matter what their business is. Could be a restaurant or an automobile repair shop or a florist. They provide the best service and price and product. Maybe you've never shopped there before or maybe you are already a regular customer. Nobody else in town can touch them.


I don't 100% boycott Walmart but most of the time I will make an effort to drive a little further to a store whose prices are not quite as good. I post petitions like Walmart can stop the next tragedy in Bangladesh.

I believe the way most pork is raised in this country is especially inhumane and have a strict policy of not eating it at restaurants except for ones like Chipotles. Read about their Food with Integrity policy. I rarely eat beef out either; in fact, I rarely eat out at all and so I can spend more at the grocery store for brands like Nature's Promise.

When I lived four miles away from a Whole Foods, I did a lot of my shopping there, despite there being a Publix 1/2 miles away. Now I'm 30 miles from a Whole Foods and do the best I can at supermarkets.





DesideriScuri -> RE: Politics and consumerism (5/9/2013 4:28:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama
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Let's suppose there is a business in your area who is the very best in your area for whatever product or service they provide. For the purposes of this discussion it really doesn't matter what their business is. Could be a restaurant or an automobile repair shop or a florist. They provide the best service and price and product. Maybe you've never shopped there before or maybe you are already a regular customer. Nobody else in town can touch them.

I don't 100% boycott Walmart but most of the time I will make an effort to drive a little further to a store whose prices are not quite as good. I post petitions like Walmart can stop the next tragedy in Bangladesh.
I believe the way most pork is raised in this country is especially inhumane and have a strict policy of not eating it at restaurants except for ones like Chipotles. Read about their Food with Integrity policy. I rarely eat beef out either; in fact, I rarely eat out at all and so I can spend more at the grocery store for brands like Nature's Promise.
When I lived four miles away from a Whole Foods, I did a lot of my shopping there, despite there being a Publix 1/2 miles away. Now I'm 30 miles from a Whole Foods and do the best I can at supermarkets.


Depending on your ability/desire to cook/prepare food, foregoing restaurants so you can shop more at grocery stores is a great way to save money and have more control over your food. But, if you can't cook and have little desire to improve (I know people that fall into this category), it might be more nutritious to eat out more. [:D]






Real0ne -> RE: Politics and consumerism (5/9/2013 8:52:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59


Fast reply:

This is America and we`re still free to vote with our dollars, if we choose so.





yes votes = dollars

a system perfectly designed for the common person.

"We the Wealthy"




LizDeluxe -> RE: Politics and consumerism (5/9/2013 2:43:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Edwynn
BTW, Emory University just kicked Chic Filet out of the cafeteria, and that was voted on by the students a month before the PR fiasco.


Check the dates.

Emory removes Chick-fil-A from campus

Emory says Chick-fil-A decision not political

PolitiFact: Emory says Chick-fil-A decision not political

Emory to Remove Chick-fil-A From Cox Hall

Campus newspaper: Chick-fil-A to leave Emory University

While Dan Cathy's comments may truly have had nothing to do with the decision to to remove Chick-Fil-A from the Emory campus (and even if they did that is Emory's business - that's the whole point of this thread) it is indisputable that the 'PR fiasco' you allude to happened a full eight months prior to the decision being announced.

Any more "facts" you'd like to share with me?





Edwynn -> RE: Politics and consumerism (5/10/2013 5:18:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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So no, no scientific proof that Chic Filet does not make the best chicken sandwich in Atlanta, but some small region in the city thinks not.
Along with other people in other locations of the metro area that drive past the Chic Filet to pull into the local establishments selling chicken sandwiches.
Again, thanks for humbling me.


Edwynn, you have your choice for what establishment provides the best product/service, right? What does it matter if that's a Chic-Fil-A or Dirk Diggler's House o' Chicken (any resemblance to a real establishment is completely random, and should in no way be taken as support nor denial of same)?

Apply the question to whatever establishment you think provides the best whatever product. Would you continue to be a customer of an establishment if that customer's politics is opposite yours, even if the products/services rendered were far and above their nearest competitor? That's all that's being asked in the OP.




To the extent that I discriminate at all by patronizing or not a given establishment, I would much more discriminate based on their having much to say about politics at all more that the particulars of the politics.

As I said, I am more biased against stupid, which makes me biased against politics.

The few small businesses where I know the proprietor personally, they pretty much despise politics, so it's an easy choice to do business there.




Edwynn -> RE: Politics and consumerism (5/10/2013 5:32:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LizDeluxe

If you can believe it, the product that prompted the question was actually vacuum tubes.



Well why didn't you say so? That's another subject entirely.

Sylvania, Philips-Valvo, Mullard, RCA, Telefunken, etc., are long ago gone from the game.

There is no 'best tube (valve, röhre) in town' anymore. Not for years.

The former commie countries bought up some of the tooling for that, and fail miserably at replicating the quality and reliability.

They are full on board, though, when it comes to good old-fashioned heart-of-capitalism price gouging for a WE 300B replica, e.g.

I can assure you that hardly anyone boycotts their grossly over-priced tubes based on politics.






DesideriScuri -> RE: Politics and consumerism (5/10/2013 5:41:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Edwynn
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: Edwynn
So no, no scientific proof that Chic Filet does not make the best chicken sandwich in Atlanta, but some small region in the city thinks not.
Along with other people in other locations of the metro area that drive past the Chic Filet to pull into the local establishments selling chicken sandwiches.
Again, thanks for humbling me.

Edwynn, you have your choice for what establishment provides the best product/service, right? What does it matter if that's a Chic-Fil-A or Dirk Diggler's House o' Chicken (any resemblance to a real establishment is completely random, and should in no way be taken as support nor denial of same)?
Apply the question to whatever establishment you think provides the best whatever product. Would you continue to be a customer of an establishment if that customer's politics is opposite yours, even if the products/services rendered were far and above their nearest competitor? That's all that's being asked in the OP.

To the extent that I discriminate at all by patronizing or not a given establishment, I would much more discriminate based on their having much to say about politics at all more that the particulars of the politics.
As I said, I am more biased against stupid, which makes me biased against politics.
The few small businesses where I know the proprietor personally, they pretty much despise politics, so it's an easy choice to do business there.


That is the response, at least the way I've interpreted the OP, that LizDeluxe was looking for.




WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: Politics and consumerism (5/10/2013 7:21:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LizDeluxe
If you can believe it, the product that prompted the question was actually vacuum tubes.

what was tha political issue wit that ole tech?




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