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RE: 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without ... - 5/13/2013 11:23:18 AM   
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Ja Huntie, I don't know that the guy was actually passing out Vegas brochures to these assholes, but.......

I think we both know what he was up to and someone found out about it and took umbradge.
Ever since that little mishaps with the colonels wife I have made it a practice to always post a guard when I am fucking someone's wife or daughter.

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RE: 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without ... - 5/13/2013 11:36:41 AM   
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Get it in your head.

Forget terminology.

Forget ideology.

Forget theology, which the latter seems to have morphed into so neatly.


What's the all the fuss about Ben Gazzara? So he wasn't a great actor, but he did the job pretty well, in some movies. Played a great 'bad guy' role when the situation called for it.

Oh, wait ...


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RE: 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without ... - 5/13/2013 11:43:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think what's being said here, is that one prez get's called out on a blowjob, another prez is instigator of action that causes over 100,000 deaths, ...

But, ...

doesn't get called into the same arena to answer for what he did, as did the earlier prez.

If we are to be strict about 'standing on ceremony' here, the blowjob prez commited the far worse crime.


I'm loathe to even venture into what this says about our society.





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RE: 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without ... - 5/14/2013 7:56:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		So, what we have is the faux outrage of the inept teabaggers.  End of joke, and not at all surprising, because that is a tool (in fact the only one) they can manage.

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RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Wa... - 5/14/2013 8:24:04 AM   
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What question is there to answer, how many ambassadors died?  Who fuckin cares?  Zero probably.  How many World Trade Center people have died under Obama?
I mean what the fuck?  So the question being asked is the 60 embassy employees (none of them ambassadors (big fucking deal, just a job) but all of them americans dying) where were the troop to defend them in these countries?  What sort of fuckin moron would have embassies staffed in these countries, where were the troops, who knew what when, where was the investigation on the cover up of why these weren't investigated?
How about the (at least) 100 deaths due to torture under W?  Where is the investigation?  Why the cover up?  
9/11 happens and W blames Saddam.   Is a video worse? Where is the investigation?  Why the cover up?  Where were the troops? 


You can't even accept that Obama covered up that there was a terrorist attack that resulted in the death of our Ambassador.

How precisely did Obama cover up that a terror attack killed Amb. stevens. He called it an act of terror the very next day.

Please don't tell me you're trying the Issa gambit.

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RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Wa... - 5/14/2013 8:36:23 AM   
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What question is there to answer, how many ambassadors died?  Who fuckin cares?  Zero probably.  How many World Trade Center people have died under Obama?
I mean what the fuck?  So the question being asked is the 60 embassy employees (none of them ambassadors (big fucking deal, just a job) but all of them americans dying) where were the troop to defend them in these countries?  What sort of fuckin moron would have embassies staffed in these countries, where were the troops, who knew what when, where was the investigation on the cover up of why these weren't investigated?
How about the (at least) 100 deaths due to torture under W?  Where is the investigation?  Why the cover up?  
9/11 happens and W blames Saddam.   Is a video worse? Where is the investigation?  Why the cover up?  Where were the troops? 


You can't even accept that Obama covered up that there was a terrorist attack that resulted in the death of our Ambassador.

How precisely did Obama cover up that a terror attack killed Amb. stevens. He called it an act of terror the very next day.

Please don't tell me you're trying the Issa gambit.




I think you nailed it...



Imagine this was a court room ....


P- "Ok,admit to the crime or else"


D- "What crime?


P- "C`mon.....you know what crime....just admit it"


D- "no I don`t......what am I admitting to?"


P "Stop pretending and just admit it already"


D- Admit to what?!"


And the republicans can`t figure out why they are a laughing stock.......?


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RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Wa... - 5/14/2013 9:49:34 AM   
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How precisely did Obama cover up that a terror attack killed Amb. stevens. He called it an act of terror the very next day.

Four Pinocchios

K.

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RE: 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without ... - 5/14/2013 10:02:50 AM   
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lol So, I suppose two wrongs make a right in your mind? Hack

No, it just gives a new meaning to chutzpah which is the outlandish lies and hypocrisy of the repubs and their media propaganda.

They have no problem letting Bush get away with the worst 2 terms in almost every respect, in the history of this country, yet must grab on
to anything, prolong it in an attempt to smear or denigrate against every dem. admin.

They just further demonstrate their hallow, cheap cries and show they are not patriots at all but cheap political scum and don't really give a damn about Benghazi.


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RE: 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without ... - 5/14/2013 10:07:20 AM   
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lol

I just love the eye for and eye mentality of morality. At some point someone has to take the high ground. While the R's aren't this is political, if the D's took a stand too, it would then be accepted that going forward in the future you can' do this anymore.... Time to stop being shills.

You are dreaming if you think the dems now going after Obama would change any minds and hearts in DC or the country. The repubs have a creed...never disparage a fellow repub. So only now the dems are supposed to win friends and influence people by going Obama over this ?

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RE: 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without ... - 5/14/2013 10:13:06 AM   
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true,

but if you have "whistleblowers" I guess you hear them out.
I will take issue with most of FD's things though, brief singled out attacks are not the same as hours long attacks, with people standing by watching. Can't really say 13-1 in an apples to apples way. For the hours of crap going, and the place was 'abandoned,' I am not saying you send in the marines to squash it, but you do send in the extraction crew. I have questions about that.

Bush can be looked at negatively for many things, dragging this up justifies nothing, explains nothing, and only makes me weep more for this country


Then get out the kleenex kiddo.

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RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Wa... - 5/14/2013 10:16:45 AM   
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Holy fucking hell, Batman!

Which of those 13 were blamed on something other than terrorism? How many were blamed on something akin to a youtube video?



You don't get it either, the particulars can be debated but the subject as I see it is that the repubs pulled all of the strings in congress for 6 years and did nothing but now it's ok to keep pounding one dead horse going after every dem, they can not just Obama and Hillary.

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RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Wa... - 5/14/2013 10:20:45 AM   
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We also had a Secretary Of State.......under shrub...... premeditatedly lying to the American public in the lead up to the debacle.....that killed 4409 Americans....
Didn`t see any cons saying anything.....
No wonder they`re on the shit-end of any poll taken.


Aaaaand, still no one addressing the question...


We are addressing it here...why are the repubs in congress beating this dead horse when they failed to go after W even with all of those opportunities ? Bush should have been impeached on 9/12 for incompetence if nothing else because nobody...NOBODY but NOBODY attacks the pentagon...unless what ?

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RE: 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without ... - 5/14/2013 10:27:02 AM   
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Nah, everyone knows it is asswipe.


And yet, no one has shown how the "13" were called anything other than precisely what they were...


They weren't called anything by congress, that's the whole point. Even 'Teflon Ronnie' (Ronald Reagan) avoided impeachment over not a embassy or consulate attack but getting 241 Marines killed in Lebanon. Of course the repubs true to form, had to...widen broadly their lead in pardons with that one.

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RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Wa... - 5/14/2013 10:31:59 AM   
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We also had a Secretary Of State.......under shrub...... premeditatedly lying to the American public in the lead up to the debacle.....that killed 4409 Americans....
Didn`t see any cons saying anything.....
No wonder they`re on the shit-end of any poll taken.

Aaaaand, still no one addressing the question...

We are addressing it here...why are the repubs in congress beating this dead horse when they failed to go after W even with all of those opportunities ? Bush should have been impeached on 9/12 for incompetence if nothing else because nobody...NOBODY but NOBODY attacks the pentagon...unless what ?


No, MrRodgers. No one is addressing the question of how the 13 "Benghazis" from the OP are the same as Benghazi. The biggest issue over Benghazi is that the administration covered up that it was a terrorist attack. They blamed a youtube video and blamed a youtube video and continued to blame a youtube video until there was simply no possible way to continue to do so. Then, they admit that it was terrorism.

Now, which of the 13 events listed in the OP were covered up by Bush, or, were blamed on anything other than terrorism? No one is addressing that question.


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RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Wa... - 5/14/2013 10:45:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		That is the stupidity of the howling of the teabaggers.  Nothing was 'covered-up' in this Benghazi.



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RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Wa... - 5/14/2013 10:49:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		What's interesting about this list is that there were three attacks on the embassy in Pakistan in 4 years after 9/11 and George W. Bush and his cronies still didn't figure out Bin Laden was hiding out in Pakistan (even though there was evidence as early as 2005 that he was in Pakistan.) wtf

It is really hard to take the Republicans seriously on stuff like this. They are opportunistic to a fault, but then when something really needs to be done that is important, like take out Bin Laden, they can't be trusted to do what's necessary.

So now they want to blow Benghazi out of proportion after allowing the leader of Al-Qaeda to hide out in the open in Pakistan since 2005. Really? I'll take Obama's record on foreign policy any day over that of Bush......

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RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Wa... - 5/14/2013 10:51:58 AM   
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That is the stupidity of the howling of the teabaggers.  Nothing was 'covered-up' in this Benghazi.


<Cough, cough> Youtube video <Cough, cough>

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RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Wa... - 5/14/2013 10:52:38 AM   
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The then US President George W. Bush was informed of the attacks while on a national trip, and called them "ruthless murder".

This is a cover-up.  You want more? There are a bunch more of his where he didn't call it a  'terrorist attack'.  That is the codex for a coverup with teabaggers.  This guy coveredup alotta his conspiracies.   

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RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Wa... - 5/14/2013 11:05:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: Owner59
We also had a Secretary Of State.......under shrub...... premeditatedly lying to the American public in the lead up to the debacle.....that killed 4409 Americans....
Didn`t see any cons saying anything.....
No wonder they`re on the shit-end of any poll taken.

Aaaaand, still no one addressing the question...

We are addressing it here...why are the repubs in congress beating this dead horse when they failed to go after W even with all of those opportunities ? Bush should have been impeached on 9/12 for incompetence if nothing else because nobody...NOBODY but NOBODY attacks the pentagon...unless what ?


No, MrRodgers. No one is addressing the question of how the 13 "Benghazis" from the OP are the same as Benghazi. The biggest issue over Benghazi is that the administration covered up that it was a terrorist attack. They blamed a youtube video and blamed a youtube video and continued to blame a youtube video until there was simply no possible way to continue to do so. Then, they admit that it was terrorism.

Now, which of the 13 events listed in the OP were covered up by Bush, or, were blamed on anything other than terrorism? No one is addressing that question.


I am just caught wondering how just what this admin. said about any attack is any different than what any previous admin., said about attacks on their watch and if the country is really interested other than as political fodder, about all that we've gone over on this attack ?

It isn't the particulars of any attack but the response of repubs in congress. There was nothing in congress like this over all of those attacks no matter their result. Even the hearings over Iran/contra never touched Reagan, only the immense cover-up by Col North.

Even the dems failed to go after Reagan. The repubs always try to exploit everything they can even spending $60 million going after Whitewater...and found nothing.

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RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Wa... - 5/14/2013 11:08:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just because they thought it was a youtube video that instigated the attack does not mean they covered it up, covering it up would be more along the lines of denying terrorists attacked the embassy (which they did admit happened) than offering a REASON as to WHY it happened. Maybe the youtube video wasn't the reason behind why it happened, maybe they were wrong, but does that mean they were trying to cover up what happened? NO! they were trying to find out WHY it happened. How is offering a reason as to why it happened considered a cover up and one worth impeaching the frigging president? You people are grasping at straws. Sure in the 13 embassy attacks under bush there were no people trying to explain WHY it happened, they just thought it was "da muslims being muslims, killing our patriotic american citizens." This time there was an extremely insulting movie released on youtube around the same time, so an initial look at the situation makes one draw certain conclusions, such as the violence being instigated by the video. Are those conclusions right? Not always, no. People aren't perfect, and they sometimes get things wrong, but it doesn't mean we should fire them because they're wrong, it means we learn from their mistakes and move on as best as we can to prevent this sort of stuff from happening. Lastly, the Obama administration DID admit it was a terrorist attack, why do you red neck morons continue to overlook this fact?

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