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RE: Antivirus - 5/11/2013 10:27:16 AM   
SeekingTrinity


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Kaspersky hands down has been the best antivirus product I've ever tried. Well worth the $40 per year I pay.

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RE: Antivirus - 5/11/2013 10:38:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Lucy, I agree, I recently installed Norton Gold Edition, & it was completely useless & broke down.
Gone back to Microsoft Security Essentials, & Malware & Malbyte, both free & they work well together.

Regards, Gary.

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RE: Antivirus - 5/11/2013 10:48:56 AM   
garyFLR


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Status: offline 		Hi Focus 50,
Like you' I'm no computer whizzkid, but I found both AVG & Norton had much more going on than the private person needs, as opposed to business needs. I've used MSE for several years, it's brilliant & doesn't take up much room on your computer, I've had no problems.

Cheers, Gary.

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RE: Antivirus - 5/11/2013 11:06:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: absolutchocolat
Also ESET runs constantly in the background, so it requires very little maintenance.


I use Avast. My old computer came with ESET on it, but I had to remove it. The airline res system uses a lot of RAM and when ESET did the twice daily scan, it would turn my computer into a paper weight until it was done.

I'm with others: I wouldn't use Norton or McAfee, even if they paid me.


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RE: Antivirus - 5/11/2013 11:54:24 AM   
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It does have over 4,000Gigs and it's pretty full - well over 8 million files.


Jeez, are you designing a new solar system or something, FD?

Naaaa.... lol.

I collect music and movies and a fair bit of software.

This is just one PC here.
I currently have 12 sitting on my home network and only one left to re-build into a case.

I have no idea how many gigs I have in total across all 12 machines.
I think the smallest one has 120GB and most have something approaching 500GB each.

I was seriously thinking of joining the SETI institute.
Though I'm not sure I want my PC's busy doing something that I won't see any results from.

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RE: Antivirus - 5/11/2013 11:59:36 AM   
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I was seriously thinking of joining the SETI institute.




Just get your computers to set up their own SETI.

A friend of mine, a biology professor, is a SETI member. He's been encouraging me to join for ages.

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RE: Antivirus - 5/11/2013 1:54:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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It does have over 4,000Gigs and it's pretty full - well over 8 million files.


Jeez, are you designing a new solar system or something, FD?


I have 5TB on this machine across four USB drives. Music, movies, television shows. Porn.


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RE: Antivirus - 5/11/2013 2:12:13 PM   
Missokyst


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Status: offline 		This is why I use external drives. 500G for pictures. 500G for music. 2 TB for movies. Oh, and a 500G for porn. Plugged in only when I want them. My OS runs on a solid state. And I have used Avast free since 2000. You don't even want to know what I introduce into some of my systems to test it.

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RE: Antivirus - 5/12/2013 7:55:18 AM   
ravishers


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Status: offline 		a good thing to remember is....your av is always behind on virus programmers.
You are the best filter before a file lands on your pc ;)

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RE: Antivirus - 5/12/2013 8:17:51 AM   
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This is why I use external drives. 500G for pictures. 500G for music. 2 TB for movies. Oh, and a 500G for porn. Plugged in only when I want them. My OS runs on a solid state. And I have used Avast free since 2000. You don't even want to know what I introduce into some of my systems to test it.

External drives are too slow - even on eSata.
Internal is by far the quickest way to access anything.
It might be fine if you only have 1 PC but with my setup, anyone in the family can access whatever movie or music they want to listen to at the time - so it needs to be online at all times.
In fact, it's soooo busy at times, I have even dedicated an old 1GHz P3 machine to act as a Print Server so all my printers are online too.

As for SSD's, they haven't proven to be reliable to me.
My friend has bought 3 so far in the last year - 2 have already died.
I spent quite a long time (almost a week) investigating SSD's.
In theory, they should last a lot longer than standard drives because they don't have any moving parts. However, reading on a lot of forums, many are finding they are crapping out after as little as 3 months.
If these are 'normal' people using their machines in a normal manner, then I don't stand a chance with how my PC is used.
That doesn't bode well for me. There's no way I want to have to re-install my OS and all the software more often than once or maybe twice during the lifetime of the machine.
My last machine that I 'retired' was 11 years old and the only reason I upgraded it was for a newer/faster motherboard and Ram.

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RE: Antivirus - 5/12/2013 8:24:38 AM   
absolutchocolat


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RE: Antivirus - 5/12/2013 10:00:38 AM   
Missokyst


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Status: offline 		It does sound like you have a system with more activity than mine. I would never hook my systems up so we all could run the same media. I have 5 computers in this house. We all run our own stuff. My solid state has been up for about a year and a half. And if it crashes.. lol its not a big deal. I have 5 computers here on active duty and 2 spares. I use the externals so when it crashes, it won't crush me.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Missokyst

This is why I use external drives. 500G for pictures. 500G for music. 2 TB for movies. Oh, and a 500G for porn. Plugged in only when I want them. My OS runs on a solid state. And I have used Avast free since 2000. You don't even want to know what I introduce into some of my systems to test it.

External drives are too slow - even on eSata.
Internal is by far the quickest way to access anything.
It might be fine if you only have 1 PC but with my setup, anyone in the family can access whatever movie or music they want to listen to at the time - so it needs to be online at all times.
In fact, it's soooo busy at times, I have even dedicated an old 1GHz P3 machine to act as a Print Server so all my printers are online too.

As for SSD's, they haven't proven to be reliable to me.
My friend has bought 3 so far in the last year - 2 have already died.
I spent quite a long time (almost a week) investigating SSD's.
In theory, they should last a lot longer than standard drives because they don't have any moving parts. However, reading on a lot of forums, many are finding they are crapping out after as little as 3 months.
If these are 'normal' people using their machines in a normal manner, then I don't stand a chance with how my PC is used.
That doesn't bode well for me. There's no way I want to have to re-install my OS and all the software more often than once or maybe twice during the lifetime of the machine.
My last machine that I 'retired' was 11 years old and the only reason I upgraded it was for a newer/faster motherboard and Ram.




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RE: Antivirus - 5/12/2013 10:03:35 AM   
Missokyst


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Status: offline 		Yeh. I used to belong to several pay sites and downloaded most of it for the members of my group. I doubt if I have even watched 20G of that stash.

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ORIGINAL: absolutchocolat

Damn, hella porn!



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RE: Antivirus - 5/12/2013 10:28:09 AM   
freedomdwarf1


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It does sound like you have a system with more activity than mine. I would never hook my systems up so we all could run the same media. I have 5 computers in this house. We all run our own stuff. My solid state has been up for about a year and a half. And if it crashes.. lol its not a big deal. I have 5 computers here on active duty and 2 spares. I use the externals so when it crashes, it won't crush me.

The kids are using theirs pretty much all day and evening 7 days a week.
They don't do a lot - usually streaming a movie or music from my main PC or one of the others. Either that or they are listening to music while reading on their fanfiction sites.
The Mrs is always on her forums (like me) from the time we fall out of bed until we go back to bed. lol.
There are at least 3 or 4 other machines that are constantly downloading and our main machines are downloading when we go to bed. And obviously, the print server is on 24/7 (5 printers connected).

Whilst us 2 adults are on our respective forums, we are usually re-rendering movies or re-vamping audio tracks and re-building DVD's for friends.

All in all, about 7 or 8 of my PC's are constantly busy 24/7.
I run a scan on all machines every single day and check MS updates once a week.
The AV software updates itself automatically.
The only time these machines are turned off is if an update needs a reboot or I upgrade something inside (a newer video card, more Ram or a new hard drive).

The last time I checked, we were downloading approx 8-10GB an hour, 24/7.
Until SSD's are proven to be as reliable as the old-type hard drives, I won't invest any money in that technology just yet. Apart from which, they are hellishly expensive for what space they offer. I'd sooner spend the money on a 2TB normal drive than a 128GB SSD.

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RE: Antivirus - 5/12/2013 11:36:16 AM   
Missokyst


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Status: offline 		LOL omg way over my use. We take breaks. Too much computer or tv around here and it is time for a road trip. I am stuck kind of because my business is computers. But, unless I am on the forum (which is on and off when I decide to sit here), I spend my time creating offline. Yesterday my girls headed to the bay area (3 hrs away) to have lunch at Bubba Gumps. We do turn off the systems.
As for scans.. Since 1998, I have run maybe 4 scans on the antivirus, probably about a dozen scans for spyware. And even then it was only because I put someone elses hard drive in the tower, or I deliberately introduced a virus into my machine to analyse it.
Apart from downloading the 500 g of porn for my group, the only time I do things to help out family is because they know I work in computers and they are going to pay for my time. I no longer give my services for free even for family.

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RE: Antivirus - 5/12/2013 1:01:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		ESET or Bitdefender. If you think otherwise, you may be a victim of uneducated hearsay or brand advertizing. Please take a second to search and study.

ESET - NOD 32 was the best in the world for years. Used by commercial installations, servers and techs because "it really works". No other AV programs had succeeded in preventing a virus infection in the wild . . . but ESET. Look it up.

Bitdefender did well in recent tests. When monitoring the real world and in the lab, Bitdefender comes in 1/100 of a percent ahead of ESET.

I bought Bitdefender for my slave's laptop and I run ESET on my servers.

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RE: Antivirus - 5/12/2013 1:22:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I use McAfee Security Center and have for many years. I have heard a lot of good things from various people I know about Bitdefender and also Kaspersky...I will probably switch to one of those when my McAfee runs out in 2014.

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RE: Antivirus - 5/12/2013 1:25:19 PM   
freedomdwarf1


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ESET or Bitdefender. If you think otherwise, you may be a victim of uneducated hearsay or brand advertizing. Please take a second to search and study.

ESET - NOD 32 was the best in the world for years. Used by commercial installations, servers and techs because "it really works". No other AV programs had succeeded in preventing a virus infection in the wild . . . but ESET. Look it up.

I did
ESET isn't the best by quite a margin.
And it wouldn't be good enough for me.
Check with these independant tests - http://www.av-comparatives.org

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
Bitdefender did well in recent tests. When monitoring the real world and in the lab, Bitdefender comes in 1/100 of a percent ahead of ESET.

Have a look at more recent figures.
ESET & BD are more apart than just 0.001%.

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
I bought Bitdefender for my slave's laptop and I run ESET on my servers.

I would kindly suggest that ESET isn't your best option for your servers these days.
And I wouldn't want to be paying £30 a year for a max of 3 PC's.
I would need 4 full licenses - far too expensive for me for something that isn't 100%.


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RE: Antivirus - 5/12/2013 1:28:19 PM   
freedomdwarf1


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I use McAfee Security Center and have for many years. I have heard a lot of good things from various people I know about Bitdefender and also Kaspersky...I will probably switch to one of those when my McAfee runs out in 2014.

I wouldn't touch MacAfee with someone else's barge pole. lol.
If my experiences over the last decade (and also very recently) are anything to go by, I wouldn't give it house room.
It's about as useful as a wet tissue in a tornado.
It is seriously that bad.

ETA: Just thought I'd give an example -
I recently picked up an old HPa708 complete PC.
I cracked the user password, logged in, checked the specs and checked what was left on the hard drive.
The latest MacAfee 2013 was installed so I updated it. Update worked - 100% "safe".
I ran a scan.
It took 3 hours and came up as 100% clean - nothing detected. No spyware, no malware, no hijacks.... nothing.
I plugged the HD into my PC and run a Ms security scan followed by a MalwareBytes Pro scan.
Ms Security Eseentials reported 5 hijacks, 3 malware, 1 trojan dropper, 8 viruses (viri?).
MB reported 7 hijacks, 9 trojans, 1 trojan dropper, 78 malware/spyware, 12 viruses.

MacAfee??? Point proven. It's not worth a wank... seriously.
And that was last Friday 10th May - so not exactly 'old stuff'.
I've since flatlined the HD, both high-level and low-level formatting and re-installed XP Pro.

PS: I wouldn't wait to kick MacAfee out the door and get something that might work.
Your PC could be dead by 2014.


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RE: Antivirus - 5/12/2013 1:57:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: playfulotter

I use McAfee Security Center and have for many years. I have heard a lot of good things from various people I know about Bitdefender and also Kaspersky...I will probably switch to one of those when my McAfee runs out in 2014.

I wouldn't touch MacAfee with someone else's barge pole. lol.
If my experiences over the last decade (and also very recently) are anything to go by, I wouldn't give it house room.
It's about as useful as a wet tissue in a tornado.
It is seriously that bad.

ETA: Just thought I'd give an example -
I recently picked up an old HPa708 complete PC.
I cracked the user password, logged in, checked the specs and checked what was left on the hard drive.
The latest MacAfee 2013 was installed so I updated it. Update worked - 100% "safe".
I ran a scan.
It took 3 hours and came up as 100% clean - nothing detected. No spyware, no malware, no hijacks.... nothing.
I plugged the HD into my PC and run a Ms security scan followed by a MalwareBytes Pro scan.
Ms Security Eseentials reported 5 hijacks, 3 malware, 1 trojan dropper, 8 viruses (viri?).
MB reported 7 hijacks, 9 trojans, 1 trojan dropper, 78 malware/spyware, 12 viruses.

MacAfee??? Point proven. It's not worth a wank... seriously.
And that was last Friday 10th May - so not exactly 'old stuff'.
I've since flatlined the HD, both high-level and low-level formatting and re-installed XP Pro.

PS: I wouldn't wait to kick MacAfee out the door and get something that might work.
Your PC could be dead by 2014.



Freedomdwarf1....I am sure you are right about McAfee as a few things have slipped onto my computer and I had to find them myself by doing a full scan right after I saw something funny happening and McAfee didn't prevent it from getting on my computer to begin with!!! Also my computer is kind of old (bought in 2003 but with maximum memory added a few years ago). McAfee takes up a lot of space and takes 2-3 hours to do a full-scan...And sometimes after they install new items my computer does weird things when I try and reboot it.....I have to get a new computer early next year anyway before Microsoft stops supporting Windows XP anyway...Right now thought it is adequate for my needs with the computer I have.


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