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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 7:39:00 AM

Submissivekerl

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Well, not everyone is verified , that said I am not sure what ID verified means.

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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 7:45:07 AM

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Well, not everyone is verified , that said I am not sure what ID verified means.

On alt.com at least, ID verified means I have mailed a copy of my valid state ID in to them through the US postal service. They verify my identity, location, age, and height and weight.

Other sites do it differently.

Example on ELM you have verify by posting a picture of you with your nick on it that says something like, "Joe Blow is on Extra Lunch Money".

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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 7:46:07 AM

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I think you are still missing the part about why should I trust you when you don't trust Me? I don't really know if you are thinking about that. You're so busy wanting people to prove that they are who they say they are but what are you offering in return? Where's the proof that I want that you won't do something with that 20 seconds of cam?

Honestly, I think you expect too much for so little. Frankly, if somebody wanted to verify Me, it wouldn't take them an extended amount of time. It's one of the advantages of being a presenter. Google is your friend.

Since we can't seem to come to an understanding on the matter, I'm going to exit the thread. I am going to thank you for starting the topic, as it's reminded Me that I have to remove some shots from My own profile.

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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 7:46:56 AM

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ORIGINAL: Submissivekerl

Well, not everyone is verified , that said I am not sure what ID verified means.

On alt.com at least, ID verified means I have mailed a copy of my valid state ID in to them through the US postal service. They verify I identity, location, age, and height and weight.

Other sites do it differently.

Example on ELM you have verify by posting a picture of you with your nick on it that says something like, "Joe Blow is on Extra Lunch Money".

Oh , collarme should do something like that then, but would it still be free then

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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 7:50:15 AM

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I think you are still missing the part about why should I trust you when you don't trust Me? I don't really know if you are thinking about that. You're so busy wanting people to prove that they are who they say they are but what are you offering in return? Where's the proof that I want that you won't do something with that 20 seconds of cam?

Honestly, I think you expect too much for so little. Frankly, if somebody wanted to verify Me, it wouldn't take them an extended amount of time. It's one of the advantages of being a presenter. Google is your friend.

Since we can't seem to come to an understanding on the matter, I'm going to exit the thread. I am going to thank you for starting the topic, as it's reminded Me that I have to remove some shots from My own profile.

See did you a favor right there, and not at all he is quite verifying himself too. And it isn't personal at all i wouldn't point to anyone in person just a question I had :) thanks for the replies anyways.

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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 7:55:25 AM

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Oh , collarme should do something like that then, but would it still be free then

I pay for alt.com and they have employees not volunteers.

Someone has to go through the IDs they are mailed and then mark the profiles ID verified. Btw... you are NOT required to ID verify for alt but I choose to.

I agree with LP about you seem to be asking for a lot but what are YOU willing to do to verify you are who / what you say you are?

Example, the other day on fet a male sub approached me about wanting to become one of my personal video slaves. Which means several things he is doing actual fetish sessions with me and they are on camera. Yet, in the picture he emailed me he was headless and he stated it was "protect his identity." If you aren't willing to trust me with your identity why should I trust you with mine yet alone trust you into my private space to play with me? If you can't trust me with your picture how can you trust me enough to scene with me?

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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 7:58:07 AM

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Well, true but there seems to be a slight misunderstanding he would come on cam and verify himself too. I never said that above?

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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 8:00:21 AM

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I think LP is spot-on with her reply.
You are asking far too much and offering nothing in return.
That, in itself, is a seed for mis-trust right off the bat!

I have never gone on cam to verify unless we have exchanged several emails and some idle chat to see if there is anything worth taking forwards.
If someone at the beginning asked to go on cam for 'verification', my answer would be "bye".

Just my

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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 10:53:09 AM

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What's up with Cam and dominant ladies, they seem to never come on cam

That's because they're probably guys. Listen to your gut. "She" is a "he".

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I mean as a sub of course your first encounter with a mistress is just doubful, and with all honesty that question goes through your head like for hours on end; 'is she real?'

This is complete nonsense. Why is your first encounter doubtful? Why do you question "is she real"? My suggestion is to stop the cam nonsense and go to a munch. Meet REAL PEOPLE in REAL LIFE. There is never any question of whether someone is real when you're sitting across the table from them at a diner.

No offense, but I'll never understand why so many guys get stuck on such simple questions. Go to a munch, my friend. Go to a munch.

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So the question is if you are a dominant or even a switch would you get on cam for your sub just to show him you are real?

As I said, stop this cam BS and go meet a local Domme. Then all of your frustrations will go away.

These are simple issues. Why are you making them complex?

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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 11:03:48 AM

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Ok going to a damn Munch :)

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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 11:10:29 AM

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OP, may I make this very simple for you?

How you think (and wish) it would be is not going to change anybody's MO. If you can't get someone to cam and that's what you want, move on to the next profile.

Again: there are those who dabble at 'the lifestyle' online, and those who participate in the flesh.

Try the second one. MUCH more rewarding.

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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 11:43:45 AM

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I cam verify with females that I've been interested in relocating here. I've talked to them on the phone, etc. as far as males go, if I'm on cam, they are paying for it. I have audio greetings, and references if need be.

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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 2:45:10 PM

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Loosely paraphrased, here's part of the exchange:

Q: Why not cam for 20 seconds?
A: You could steal my picture and distribute it or otherwise use it without my consent.
Q: If you have a profile pic, I could steal that just as easily.
A: Yeah, but that's one that I specifically set up -- pose, hair, makeup just right.

So here's a question.

To quote someone recently, "are you seriously saying that" a picture thief would ignore the just-right profile picture, but opt for the grainy, hair-messed-up, piss-poor-video-quality, underlit picture from a webcam shot?

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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 2:51:02 PM

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There are less risks with a picture that you own compared to cam footage that you have no copy of. If it's a picture that you own and post, you have the original and can prove your ownership of said picture. If you found it being used somewhere you could ask the site to take it down. You can even search for the picture using a pic search engine such as tin eye. If it was cam footage that you didn't know existed, you wouldn't have any copies of it or be able to look for it.

Each scenario carries risks but with a still picture you have the original in your possession should you need it.

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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 3:18:32 PM

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Here's the bottom line. If you are talking long distance to someone who is insisting you get on cam and they don't, yea, chances are they aren't real, so don't get on cam.

If you are simply conversing on line without the medium of video, does it really matter whether it is a girl or a guy? After all, it is all fantasy, so it should be irrelevant.

You will find around here, most of us aren't getting on cam. Not to verify, not to chat, not to watch you dominate yourself. Yes, there are legitimate pros who will do video time with you, but they are pros, so you are going to pay for the privilege. The majority of us want someone in real, face to face time, so we want to meet you somewhere for coffee (or hot chocolate). That verifies everyone, doesn't it.

Personally, I don't even OWN a web cam, and have no intention of getting one. I have skype and when I have used it, it was voice only.

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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 3:18:49 PM

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You can take down webcam videos just as easily as pictures, however; as most don't even realize it is posted on the net. So why would they look? Most people wouldn't unless they happen across it while looking for other things.

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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 3:21:03 PM

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Here's the bottom line. If you are talking long distance to someone who is insisting you get on cam and they don't, yea, chances are they aren't real, so don't get on cam.

If you are simply conversing on line without the medium of video, does it really matter whether it is a girl or a guy? After all, it is all fantasy, so it should be irrelevant.

You will find around here, most of us aren't getting on cam. Not to verify, not to chat, not to watch you dominate yourself. Yes, there are legitimate pros who will do video time with you, but they are pros, so you are going to pay for the privilege. The majority of us want someone in real, face to face time, so we want to meet you somewhere for coffee (or hot chocolate). That verifies everyone, doesn't it.

Personally, I don't even OWN a web cam, and have no intention of getting one. I have skype and when I have used it, it was voice only.

I second that

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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 3:24:08 PM

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There are less risks with a picture that you own compared to cam footage that you have no copy of. If it's a picture that you own and post, you have the original and can prove your ownership of said picture. If you found it being used somewhere you could ask the site to take it down. You can even search for the picture using a pic search engine such as tin eye. If it was cam footage that you didn't know existed, you wouldn't have any copies of it or be able to look for it.

Each scenario carries risks but with a still picture you have the original in your possession should you need it.

I understand your take, but the ratio is still way out of balance, IMHO. All of these apply to either event (still pic or cam pic)

* You have to know that it was stolen before you take action.
* You have to know everywhere it has been proliferated to (you don't think a pic thief is going to put it in just one place, do you?)
* You have to have a lot more faith in tineye than I do. The last dozen searches I did there of pix that I *knew* were elsewhere came up empty.
* You have to hope that the owner of every site where your pic landed gives a crap (highly unlikely) or be ready to shell out lots of money to lawyers.

Yes, the added security of a still picture exists, but it's on life support.

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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 3:24:33 PM

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Here's the bottom line. If you are talking long distance to someone who is insisting you get on cam and they don't, yea, chances are they aren't real, so don't get on cam.

Absolutely. Very bad idea. No good can come from that.

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RE: Cam and dominance - 5/11/2013 3:39:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: wannapleez

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ORIGINAL: lizi

There are less risks with a picture that you own compared to cam footage that you have no copy of. If it's a picture that you own and post, you have the original and can prove your ownership of said picture. If you found it being used somewhere you could ask the site to take it down. You can even search for the picture using a pic search engine such as tin eye. If it was cam footage that you didn't know existed, you wouldn't have any copies of it or be able to look for it.

Each scenario carries risks but with a still picture you have the original in your possession should you need it.

I understand your take, but the ratio is still way out of balance, IMHO. All of these apply to either event (still pic or cam pic)

* You have to know that it was stolen before you take action.
* You have to know everywhere it has been proliferated to (you don't think a pic thief is going to put it in just one place, do you?)
* You have to have a lot more faith in tineye than I do. The last dozen searches I did there of pix that I *knew* were elsewhere came up empty.
* You have to hope that the owner of every site where your pic landed gives a crap (highly unlikely) or be ready to shell out lots of money to lawyers.

Yes, the added security of a still picture exists, but it's on life support.