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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/18/2013 9:30:44 PM   
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OP, I peeked at your profile and it said pretty much nothing, so all I have to go on is what I read here. If your approach to the subs is anything like your approach on this thread, I would say that you're pushy. That may be why they're using the "You're not MY Dom" reply.

I honestly can't say I've ever had someone pull that card on me....ever. However, I've had to tell some subs to take it easy, that I'm not THEIR Dom at this point. That surprised me at first, but .

Of course, later in the thread, it sounded like your mini-rant all came from ONE instance. lol lol lol

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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/18/2013 9:31:50 PM   
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Yeah, so basically a rant and a post for basically nothing.

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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/18/2013 9:55:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

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ORIGINAL: evesgrden

Ok.

So could you give an example of exactly what you've said that elicited the response "you're not my dom". That's not to say that their response was appropriate, but if you're getting that repeatedly then somehow what you're saying is being received as direction or criticism.



That's the thing, I don't get this repeatedly (perhaps like 3-4 times out a year)

When is does happen most of the time I blow it off because they are a complete stranger.

However ever so often, it happens with somebody I've been talking with for awhile.
They are a little past being a complete stranger. These rare cases tend to suck.

This magic combination just recently happened. The last time this combination happened
was like two and half years ago.

The issues tend to center over vanilla aspects of the other person's life. The result
of me talking an interest in a person as a whole.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about.

Somebody tells me that they had spent most of the day playing and working on a new song.
Naturally, I'm going to ask. You Play? Play what? New Song? Wow, you write songs?
I'm very much wanting to know a little more. Because I myself Love music.

Now, this should be the result of some amazing conversation? Right?

It's a completely vanilla topic, has nothing to do with BDSM. Should not like be pulling
teeth talking about this stuff. Right?

It's amazing how often I discover the layers of bull-shit talk simply because I'm
wanting to talk about Vanilla stuff. I'm far far from just some horny bastard trying
to get inside somebody's pants. Although I Love sex and I'm extremely sexual.

Anyways, I tried to engage her in a conversation about music. What she used to
record and compose her songs with. Sony Acid, Reaper, FL Studio or what?
Basically what DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) Software she uses.

I was wanting to know, what kind of music she was making genre wise. I was
hoping she'd share some of her recordings with me even.

So, there I was asking some direct questions about what she uses to record
and compose her music with. Which should be normal conversation. She
skirts the questions with a topic change. (warning warning something is a little
off).

I entertain the topic change for awhile, I'm flexible. However, I'm still curious
as to her music/creative sides.

I even go so far to share with her some of my own songs. Even let her know
what DAW software I love using and etc. So I am back at re-engaging this
vanilla topic.

Anyways, she pulled out.. "I just got the Hottest Heels" topic. OKAY, I'll roll
with this vanilla interest. I even have a friend who has a major footwear
fetish.

I actually love checking out pictures of all this amazing and crazy foot
wear. In fact, whenever I encounter an amazing pair of heels online some
where I'll think of her and share on her facebook page or send her a link
in email. This girl used to live 3 doors up from me at one time. Anyways,
I have an interest in Heels too.

I don't think she was expecting for me to equally have an interest in Heels
as I do with Music.

I asked her what kind of Amazing new Hottest Heels there were? and I
was sincerely interested. Brand, Color... and even would love to see
a picture of them. It really should not be a big deal here. A verbal
description nor even a quick snap picture of them. I already had face
pictures of this girl and etc.

It's rather ironic, how all of a sudden there was this amazing silence
and space that happened. I know that life happens, and people don't
get back to you right away because of other things going on.

I'm a big bad mean person. After a few days of clear avoidance tactics
over music and her new heels. I confronted her about it.

I'm not her Dom and she does not have to answer my questions.

She played "You're not my Dom" as the ultimate avoidance tactic.

The reality is that she probably does not write and record her own music,
let alone just get the Hottest Heels ever.

This is why I was prepared to Deep Six things. I suspected if I
keep re-asserting these topics and not simply let them slide by
unanswered.

I guess I'm too much of a pushy bastard. However, these kinds
of topics and conversations... should not be like pulling teeth.

I've occasionally have met somebody less than honest who was bragging
it up about Computer programming, Music or something else. A topic or
interest that I myself have. It's amazing how fast the topic changes
when I attempt to engage them on the subject.

You can literally see the "OH Shit.." expression on their face.
That somebody with a real interest in the shit they were just bragging
about (to make themselves look amazing to other people)
is attempting to engage them in real conversation.

I'm laughing my ass right now. Because only on sites like this..

Does the Dom Card get played as a truth avoidance tactic.

It's one big can of crack me the fuck up. Doms will play this
card to avoid having to deal with the truth. Sub/slaves play this
same stupid card in reverse with "You're not my Dom"... Hahahahaha

The World is in perfect order on sites like this, just with a added
layer of avoidance tactics in the social tool set.

Like I said, I'm a human being first and foremost.

Perhaps I should just work the Big Bad Dom after only Tits and Ass
and getting Laid angle.. and not give a shit about any of this vanilla
stuff. I should keep the conversation, hot and nasty. Simply ignore
talking about vanilla stuff. It's all this vanilla stuff which a lot of
people seem to lie about anyways. LOL






Dude, you're getting worked up about nothing. If these are all online conversations, you have to take it with a grain of salt. My feeling is nothing is real until you are sitting face to face.

There could be a million reasons she changed the topic from music -- she was lying and doesn't do music; it's personal; she's had a million conversations about her music this week and was bored by your questions.

You do seem really self-absorbed and lacking in conversational skills. Maybe you need to go to a class on how to talk with people.

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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/19/2013 12:08:09 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: NiceButMeanGirl
OP, I peeked at your profile and it said pretty much nothing, so all I have to go on is what I read here. If your approach to the subs is anything like your approach on this thread, I would say that you're pushy. That may be why they're using the "You're not MY Dom" reply.

I honestly can't say I've ever had someone pull that card on me....ever. However, I've had to tell some subs to take it easy, that I'm not THEIR Dom at this point. That surprised me at first, but .

Of course, later in the thread, it sounded like your mini-rant all came from ONE instance. lol lol lol

NBMG


yuppers, my profile is blank at the moment.
I even removed my pictures from it. ;^)

Honestly, I'm just frustrated.

The perception of me being "pushy" is combination of frustration,
being defensive, and ummmm.. a not so great attitude at the moment.
So yes... I do tend to become a little pushy under certain situations.
I was not like this last week, last month or for awhile. It's been awhile.

It was the interaction I had with one person lately that trigger this off.
It is what it is, nothing more and nothing less. This sums it up.

I'm already starting to snap the fuck out of it.
A couple more days and I won't even be thinking about it.

Making anything more or less out of this, is on par with me starting this thread to begin with.
I came over to this side of CM, was going through the threads.

My mistake was starting up a thread, with the mood I was in, and using
exactly what was on my mind at the time. I did not give myself time
to step back and cool down. Chill out, or whatever.

You know for more rational, and less emotional thought to take hold.
That proverbial cool down period.

Again this sums it up.

This whole thread, is one big can crack me the fuck up.
There was something of value I found on this thread from (two) posters.

In the middle of my frustration, defensiveness, not so great attitude,
and the side bar exchanges.

The clarity set in when somebody called me on the bullshit mood I was in.
It was RS...(you've got to love him).

He pointed out the contradiction!! A contradiction which I had going on
internally inside my mindset. I was emotionally viewing things one way,
yet the logical view was conflicting.

The epic battle where emotional thoughts are beating down logical thoughts.
When somebody Quotes an "emotional thought" and compares it to the "logical thoughts"!!

Priceless!!!

With that said, RS is the declared winner of any and all pissing matches
on this thread!!


The Dude kicked my ass in the right way, in which it needed kicking to bitch
slap me back to reality.

Really, again... it's really this simple and sums up the thread as whole.


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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/19/2013 12:45:07 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder
Yeah, so basically a rant and a post for basically nothing.


It's all not been for nothing. Your words were more than little pixels on a screen.
Although they could have easily been just that.

It's a bit of quagmire. I find it difficult (personally) to reduce people down to little
pixels on a screen like a video game. Yet, the reality is that many people do it.

This directly nailed a good part of my frustration.

I can see it never was about me being treated as a human being above
being a Dom. It was about being treated as human being instead of pixels
on a screen.

This made me stop and see things from a different angle or light.
All this has nothing to do with one's orientation, label and etc..

It simply is what it is to many people, pixels on a screen on par
with playing a video game.

The video game analogy is really a great one.

Some people literally play this like it is a video game.

They create their characters, pick their sex, race, and skill
sets. Find some hot looking avatar (pictures of other people)
to slap on top.

They press play..and enter the Dark Dungeons of BDSM-land.
In their mind everybody else is just another player.
If they encounter somebody real, it's no big deal to them.
It does not make a difference in their day to day real world life.




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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/19/2013 11:13:15 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

Some people literally play this like it is a video game.



That has always been my default position. No one is real to me unless and until I meet them. It saves a lot of emotional wear and tear.

And personally, I even skip the phone calls. Before I even think about whether I may want them in my life they have to prove they can be physically present in my life.

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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/19/2013 11:19:28 AM   
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While I certainly understand your position about the phone calls, I find them very useful. I was once talking with someone and when we got on the phone he sounded like Sylvester Stallone on Quaaludes. Trust me, that phone call saved me much time. I just couldn't take someone who spoke like that seriously.

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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/19/2013 11:53:38 AM   
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Not sure if you're the same WhiplashSmile from years ago but if you are we discussed this once on the phone I believe. I agree with your rant and see it as well. Why is it that simply because of a "label" we become non human or perhaps super human and aren't afforded the same courtesy as any other human being. I don't ever remember claiming I am not human or not a woman simply because I'm a Domme.

It also baffles me that I arrange to meet for a simple vanilla get together at Starbucks to see if it works as well as in email and via phone and they are "disappointed" that I wasn't domly enough. As if I'm going to stroll in wearing a leather catsuit, gimp mask, and snapping a bullwhip. Goddess forbid I should want to have a normal conversation to see if I can spend more than 5 min w/ someone and not be bored to tears. That I should say please and thank you vs Do it worm! When did a D label signify that I'm not a normal human being in day to day life. We're all here for a reason. I want to know I can spend the rest of my life waking up next to them every morning without wanting to stab a grapefruit spoon through their eyeball.

Rant leads unto rant.

*steps off soapbox*

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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/19/2013 2:09:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

While I certainly understand your position about the phone calls, I find them very useful. I was once talking with someone and when we got on the phone he sounded like Sylvester Stallone on Quaaludes. Trust me, that phone call saved me much time. I just couldn't take someone who spoke like that seriously.


I agree. I never meet without phone first. It is amazing how different people are when you talk to them first vs reading their words.

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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/19/2013 2:52:03 PM   
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I met Master before I ever saw a clear photo of him or a phone call. I met him just thinking it didn't really matter who he was as long as he paid for my coffee.

Like I've done before, if I don't like the person then I just excuse myself and let them know I'm not interested. I'm also the type that if I was able to see them before actually meeting them and I thought "helllllll no", I just slipped away and make an excuse in email that my daughter got sick and I couldn't leave the house and then neither of us would continue any kind of contact. It just was what it was.

I guess I just don't put a lot of care into meeting people in real life. Never have.


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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/19/2013 3:23:51 PM   
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I met [my] Master here not having seen Him, or spoken on the phone also.

I was very pleasantly surprised.



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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/19/2013 3:44:04 PM   
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I'm ok with the no photograph thing really. But that guy's voice! Can you imagine talking to someone and all you can think of is them yelling "Adrianne!" sounding like they are Rocky who just went 13 rounds with Apollo? My big thing is that I don't have much of a poker face, so if I were to have met "Rocky" in person, the look on my face could have really hurt his feelings. While I had no interest in him after speaking, I don't really want to hurt people's feelings if I can help it.

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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/19/2013 3:53:38 PM   
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I am happy you ladies found your soul mates without ever seeing them or speaking to them, but if they see my photos then I need to see theirs. Not that it's a guarantee on chemistry, but it gives me an idea of the possibility. same with phone calls.

Now, I have met men who sent old photos and lied about their looks, etc. but that is for another thread.

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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/19/2013 3:59:20 PM   
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Let me get this straight.

You made small talk with some woman and she lost interest two and half YEARS AGO, and because of that most recent event, now you're posting about submissives pulling the "I'm not your Dom card

Memo to you: You're carrying a grudge over someone you never met, who had the audacity to not want to pursue things with you.

Put on your big-boy pants and get over it. When something happened that long ago ONLINE it doesn't even belong in high school as a somebody-done-somebody-wrong-song, let alone here.

Amazing how illuminating it can be if you just ask someone for an example. Suddenly all the moral indignation doesn't hold any water.

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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/19/2013 4:23:04 PM   
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evesgarden,
I can't be positive, of course, but I think what he meant was, that the fully described interaction happened recently, which got him feeling this way, but that, when he looked at it logically, the last time it happened before this was perhaps 2 and a half years ago. That was my read on it, anyway. and I think when he said, 'it happens 3 or 4 times a year', it was like when I say, 'I smoke one or two cigars a year'. Actually, there is a random life event that happened close to the last time I smoked one, so I happen to know it's been about 4 years. But I might smoke 2 a year some other year - it's just variable. I think '3 or 4 times a year' was just what he was feeling as he started facing the logic that, really, it wasn't that often - then when he looked at it very closely, he admitted that the last time before this time was 2.5 years ago.

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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/19/2013 4:31:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1

I am happy you ladies found your soul mates without ever seeing them or speaking to them, but if they see my photos then I need to see theirs. Not that it's a guarantee on chemistry, but it gives me an idea of the possibility. same with phone calls.

Now, I have met men who sent old photos and lied about their looks, etc. but that is for another thread.


I think for me, anytime I ever talked with men online I never felt any kind of anything at all for them. It was just chat and nothing more and if they wanted to meet, I'd shrug my shoulders and say "sure, why not?". It got me out of the house and a free coffee.

It was the same with Master. I never asked him for a photo or call because he never held any kind of interest for me until after we met. He asked me to meet and I said "sure why not?". I just assumed it would be another free coffee and that was it.

I guess if I started feeling some kind of interest in the guy online I maybe would have asked for photos or even a call. It's just never worked that way for me online.


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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/19/2013 8:00:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: evesgrden

Let me get this straight.

You made small talk with some woman and she lost interest two and half YEARS AGO, and because of that most recent event, now you're posting about submissives pulling the "I'm not your Dom card

Memo to you: You're carrying a grudge over someone you never met, who had the audacity to not want to pursue things with you.

Put on your big-boy pants and get over it. When something happened that long ago ONLINE it doesn't even belong in high school as a somebody-done-somebody-wrong-song, let alone here.

Amazing how illuminating it can be if you just ask someone for an example. Suddenly all the moral indignation doesn't hold any water.


No you don't have it straight.


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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/19/2013 8:10:40 PM   
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Yes, she does. You don't want to admit it, but that doesn't make it less true.

You also don't like getting your balls busted for being all butt hurt over nothing.

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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/19/2013 10:23:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady
Yes, she does. You don't want to admit it, but that doesn't make it less true.
You also don't like getting your balls busted for being all butt hurt over nothing.


There's some thing that's running parallel to this recent event,
connects with my not so good attitude too.

This thread is just an ugly piece in a rather frustrating jig saw puzzle.

My ass end is burned from re-entry from the real world, real time back to
this crazy online website.

I'm tired of turning over rocks and stones in the midst of the rubble, looking
for a gem here. This site clearly is not the way to go. It's a waste of time
and energy in fact. This is simply reality.

Yesterday, I went down the better path. One of less stupidity and frustration.
I'm hooking up with somebody for coffee.

I really don't have time to burn on people that treat everything like mere
pixels on a screen, the maze of scammers, the website builder girls,
the webcam girls. People which are 800+ miles away from me.

Sincerely this site ain't the right place to meet anybody. If anything the
results are extremely low for the amount of time and energy you need
to sink into it.

LafayetteLady, it's nice that you some how magically believe.. that
I'm just bent over this one incident or even what happened 2.5 years
ago.

Honestly, this site is one major time pit with awful results. This is just
reality.

It's nice that people missed what I shared about having been dating
in the real time!! LOL

Also, here on the message boards are a lot of people burning up and
throwing away valuable time of their life.... or eating up the time of
other people with no end game in mind. LOL Hahahaha

Time that could be spent more constructively, or out and about actually
living and experiencing life.

I see a lot of people trapped behind computer screens! I hate to say
this.. but nobody is getting any younger here.

If other people enjoy having other people waste and burn up their
time and energy like it... so be it.

This is reality! I'm going back to it!

Seriously, there is nothing here for me!! I'm not getting anything out of it.

I really don't care how much anybody can change up their game here,
it's still a fight against the waste of time to success ratio. LOL

Seriously!! Being reminded that this site is like One Big Video Game!!!
Ummmmmmmm... I think it's time to shut it off. Go outside and Play
and do something in the real world. Instead of being trapped behind
a screen again. LOL

This is far far more than being bent about one incident with one person
on here.. last week or 2.5 years ago.

Sooo... yeah I just finally vented. It does not matter to me.

I'm not looking for advice on how to deal this any of this.

Again, I'm not looking for advice. I'm not looking for any constructive
criticism. I'm not Lost as to what to do. I know what to do..
and that's to go back to what I was doing before I returned to here.


I'm very much looking forward to the coffee date!! :P




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RE: Interaction with others in and out of the lifestyle. - 5/20/2013 12:55:29 AM   
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You seem to be under the mistaken impression that because we post on this message board that we don't have "real" lives that we enjoy. I'm not surprised.

But you have managed to give us a new, different type of flounce.

I hope you enjoy your coffee date. I would tell that you will be missed around here, but I really don't like to lie to people.

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