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BitYakin -> TRUST (5/22/2013 3:18:26 PM)

I have a question for the communuty at large here

let me give a lil background, I am talking to a girl and I get an e-mail for someone who claims she made promises to him about this and that and the other thing
says she is a LIAR AND FAKE and I should wash my hands of her etc etc etc
in his mail he offers to send me mails and yahoo messages she sent him to show he is telling the truth

so here is my question, while I have no problem with somone warning people that someone else MAY be a player, am I the only one who thinks this person shows an UNTRUSTOWRTHY trait by offering to show PRIVATE MAILS and PRIVATE IMS to a COMPLETE STRANGER?



OsideGirl -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 3:31:34 PM)

So, some guy that you don't know...randomly out of the blue...emails you about someone else that you don't know.

And the thing that has caught your attention is that he wants to share private emails? Really?

How about you start at square one? How does he even know that you've been talking to this woman?



BitYakin -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 3:35:23 PM)

sorry if I wasn't CLEAR, noo I know the girl he is talking about, the reason he sent me mail was because he saw that she updated hre profile to indicate she was being considered by me as a sub/slave

the part tha bothered ME was his offre to send me, a complete stranger to him, her PRIVATE MAILS an IMS...

I mean it wasn't like I called him a LIAR and asked him to PROVE IT, just UP an OFFERED to send me her PRIVATE MAILS TO HIM!



OsideGirl -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 3:36:08 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BitYakin

sorry if I wasn't CLEAR, noo I know the girl he is talking about,

You've met, face to face?



BitYakin -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 3:40:59 PM)

actually we are supposed tp this weekend, course he MAY be RIGHT, she may not show!

but thats not the point, if you and I were speaking threw mails, you sent me mail you ASSUME they are PRIVATE between you an I ONLY then I get my nose bent outta joint ya feel its OK for me to forward YOUR mail to a 2rd party I don't even KNOW in an attempt to smear your repuatation

forget whether he is right or wrong about her, its not PUBLIC MAIL it PRIVATE mail



OsideGirl -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 3:49:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BitYakin

actually we are supposed tp this weekend, course he MAY be RIGHT, she may not show!

but thats not the point,


Yes, it is the point. Until you have met face to face, you don't know her.

You have someone you don't know emailing you about someone else you don't know....and you don't if any of it is the truth.

I would suggest that you meet her face to face before you make judgements based on the word of a random stranger.



BitYakin -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 3:58:04 PM)

NO that is NOT the point AT ALL

so what you are saying is PRIBATE MAIL is only PRIVATE unless you get angery then it OK so fprward it out to anyone

I have MANY friends I have never met face to face, have spoken with them threw mails for YEARS...

this isn't 1950...

so you are saying if YOU and I started talking threw mail, and I got mad for some reason, you would have NO PROBLEM with me forwarding your PRIVATE mails to me to some 3rd person I found out you were talking to?



sexyred1 -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 4:02:22 PM)

Obviously, some random stranger dude should not be sending private emails to anyone.

But, the point you are missing is that you a. never met this chick and b. I would never update my "status" to say I was being "considered" for anything, nor would I mention names, which is how he found you.

The situation sounds ludicrous especially since you are a grown man and having to ask this is just whack.

Also, why is this posted in Health and Safety?



OsideGirl -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 4:06:02 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BitYakin


I have MANY friends I have never met face to face, have spoken with them threw mails for YEARS...
Really? How do they treat and speak to a waitress in a restaurant? When you're not face to face, you only know what they want you to know.



quote:

so you are saying if YOU and I started talking threw mail, and I got mad for some reason, you would have NO PROBLEM with me forwarding your PRIVATE mails to me to some 3rd person I found out you were talking to?


No, I'm saying that since YOU DON'T KNOW EITHER OF THEM, you should follow your own gut and judgement AFTER you have actually met this person in real life.

Until then, it's just ether.



BitYakin -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 4:07:20 PM)

and NO wether I met this gal has ZERO to do with it, as for THATS HOW he FOUND ME, I wasn't HIDING

I know what *I* think of it, and I told this guy what I thought of it, I was just CURIOUS what the PEOPLE AT LARGE would think of it

I didn't HAVE to ask I wanted to know what OTHER PEOPLE THOUGHT!


GEEZZZ judgemental much?



sexyred1 -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 4:09:03 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BitYakin

and NO wether I met this gal has ZERO to do with it, as for THATS HOW he FOUND ME, I wasn't HIDING

I know what *I* think of it, and I told this guy what I thought of it, I was just CURIOUS what the PEOPLE AT LARGE would think of it

I didn't HAVE to ask I wanted to know what OTHER PEOPLE THOUGHT!


GEEZZZ judgemental much?


Dude, get it together and stop yelling and misspelling everything. You have been given answers and you don't like it.

Get over it.





BitYakin -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 4:15:35 PM)

to OsideGirl

what does how they treat waitress have to do with ANYTHING, why would I EVEN CARE???

and the defintion of a FRIEND is someone who's company you ENJOY, I can ENJOY a conversation with MANY people without EVER having MET them..
and WHILE what you say is true abotu only knowing what they want you to know it HAS ZERO BEARING ON THE ACTUAL QUESTION

the question was NOT ABOUT this girls INTEGRITY it was about some RANDOM GUY offering to SHARE PRIVATE MAIL with a COMPLETE STRANGER with the PURPOSE of DRIVING her and I APART cause he was MAD that she chose ME over HIM!

geeez no wonder people get frusterated here, ask ONE question and the people that answer try to make it about EVERYTHING BUT the question!



OsideGirl -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 4:19:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BitYakin

I didn't HAVE to ask I wanted to know what OTHER PEOPLE THOUGHT!


What I think is:

You don't know if she is real.

You don't know if he is real.

You don't know if the emails are real.

You don't know if the motive to display those emails is real.


So, in my book, the sharing of the emails is a secondary concern.

Yes, sharing those mails would be crappy. So would believing the word of a complete stranger to make your judgements.



BitYakin -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 4:21:29 PM)

CHIC don't be condesending then!

implying I am to dumb to decide for myself on this issue that I HAVE to ask, I was looking for other people OPINIONS!

and while yes you did answer the question at the begining of your post it quickly became quite condesending

its actually quite common for people to undate thier profile to acknowledge they are seriously speaking with somone so as to let others know they are no longer actively seeking the attention of others!



BitYakin -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 4:29:10 PM)

geeez it doesn't matter wether she is real or not, that such a NON ISSUE

and yes of course I will decide for myself what to do regarding her

but I can tell you this his MOTIVE was clear...

and yes you are quite correct, there is no way to know if the mails here legit or he just trumped em up or edited them to look in a way he wanted me to see
and considering he felt it was just OK so share someones private mails HIS integrity come into question as well

there was ALOT more to it than just oen ONE mail, but towards the end I questioned his honestly because of what he offered to do, and I mentioned wondering what other people would think of what he had done...
sooooo I thought I'd just come her and ASK

then get this whole is she real? phylisophical thing going on

I just thought a lil background on how it came to pass what apropraite



LafayetteLady -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 4:42:46 PM)

You really are getting your boxers in a bunch over this.

First, some random stranger sending you and email containing derogatory statements about someone you are talking to is a huge red flag. Apparently, him contacting you and saying nasty shit about her doesn't bother you, but offering to send emails to prove it does. Give that some thought.

Second, no, it is not common among experienced people to put "under the consideration of..." on their profile. It does NOTHING to keep people from contacting you, and every female on this site knows it. "Under consideration" is rookie online bullshit anyway.

Finally...spell check. Learn to use it.



girlandherDaddy -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 4:56:07 PM)

Why all the animosity? You asked for everyone's opinion and when they see a bigger picture that perhaps you may not have thought of because maybe, just maybe, you are thinking with the little head, you become disrectful. Chick? Thas was not necessary, in fact it was very rude. She stated her opinion which was what you were looking for.
As a submissive i would never remotely advertise that i was under consideration from any Dominant. In my opinion that is just juvenile and a breeding ground for issues... as you have just experienced.
Any private emails are just that, private. Alarms should be going off in your head as to the whole him and her situation.. It would sure cause me to run at Usain Bolt speed
You seem to have a very quick temper, maybe before you try to control another, you get control of yourself... just my observation.



girlandherDaddy -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 4:59:05 PM)

Sorry, I meant disrespecful, not disrectful. I don't want to get banished by the spelling fairy.



LafayetteLady -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 5:00:15 PM)

Another interesting thing to consider. Even if this random internet dude who's pissed at the women is full of shit, the girl is coming with much unneeded drama.



BitYakin -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 5:00:51 PM)

lafayettelady
yes some random dude making derogatory remarks about her was an ISSUE, just not the issue I wanted an OPINION about

geeezz you people here are just MEAN!

you make ASSUMTIONS that have nothing to do with the question asked

as for the consideration thing, I personally think its a curtosy thing, does it stop the dweebs and twits from mailing you women NOOOO
but it does let the serious people know that the woman is speaking with someone in a serious way
it lets the serious people know, that if they are going to mail her anyway they shouldn't be surprized is they are turned down and that they are intentionally stepping on someones toes

it also lets anyone she was talking to know that she has made a decision

as for the SPELL CHECK thing, guess I am lucky I am a better plumber than typist eh?
I don't see a spell check buttom here, maybe its disguised as one of those goofy smiley face things



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