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RE: Doing the right thing... - 6/8/2013 10:23:52 AM   
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I'd like to know what the rape hotline people said when they called him back to discuss this as promised. Did I miss that update or did it never happen?


Okay, this was an intense moment for me to be on the phone with the call back. It little weird considering it was women which had called me too. I found myself quickly blurting out that I am into BDSM and D/s... the consensual stuff between adults. However, had found myself in a situation dealing with people that wanted to take a Rape Scene and violate her limits and actually make it more of a REAL RAPE. That the initial CL AD I responded to and got to know her from...we had ended up talking voice, texting, IMing and even went so far to be Friends on Facebook. So both her and I had a real look into each other's lives. This was all about keeping "it real". Anyways, I had responded to this other CL AD...which was very similar in terms of NSA hookup deal. This is where the turning point happened. When I realized it was for the same girl. However there was this 3rd party "k" involved setting things up. This "k" character was pushing for way more than what I knew this girl could deal with. However, I played along with him. Fishing him out. Which was a bit dishonest on my part. Still none the less, I was trying to figure out just WHO and WHAT the fuck he was all about. So I actually played him.

I knew that this girl had had a legit MILD Rape Fantasy. Which it was just that a Mild Fantasty, her and I had talked voice about what MILD actually met. This Dude wanted to make it intense and over the top. So, I found myself making the sales pitch to the do, that I had the follow through. Just to make certain it was me showing up there instead of somebody else which would carry out this Dude's mission plan.

Now, I had showed up there knowing she really wanted this, however I also knew she had no idea to how extreme this DUDE had plotted things out. I had every intention of attempting to follow through in doing the RAPE Scene because she had wanted it. However, mentally this was not setting right with me at the same time. The Whole Business of doing this to get her out of Debt was a mindfuck in itself. That added more pressure to the situation. It made me wonder just how deep of a fucking Mess or Hole this girl got herself into.

Keep in mind, none of this situation was present in our initial conversations or interaction. Her and I had established a measure of comfort and trust.

So anyways, I was explaining this whole mess on the phone. That I was legit concern for the Grip that these forces had on this girl. Because the debt total that this girl assumed for this other girls drug debt.. was around $4,000 and I knew there was no way in HELL... that me using this GIRL 1 time would pay off that debt.

I was legit concerned and freaked out over what this girl got herself into. All of this... All of this... Keep in mind was not on the table to begin with. Her and I had built enough trust and established that we both were real people. Mutual kinky interests.

The option was laid out for me to contact Law Enforcement about this shit. I refrained from that, because I myself was uncertain about how deep the rabbit hole went. So I attempted to Fish "K" out some more... I was not going to drag the authorities into a situation which was so questionable.

However, at the same time... this whole situation really truly freaked me out.

She did not realize that it was me showing up that night (according to what she told me), This is what Happened after the Blindfold came off.. by another thread. I had wrote about it. This is why the first things out of my mouth were "Trust Me, Trust me Girl.. I really really like you, please just trust me". Because I suspected if "K" had been truthful and she did not know who was showing up... that I wanted to let her know that I myself was not in on some twisted setup job. She sincerely looked like a deer in the head lights then melted away with a Great Big smile on her face.

This experience is/has been surreal. However, the plot thickens some here. Because of my interactions with fishing "k" out... it's become painfully apparent he shared with her my Bullshit which I was feeding him. So this is what startled her, keep in mind I was expressing to her my concerns over this Dude, and also I was not trusting of something of this story line for obvious reasons.

I sincerely don't know if she retreated, because "K" convinced her that I was out to use or rape her again. I had told "k" that I was up for doing more to her to help work off the $4K debt. (Making a sales pitch). Basically, if he was into it. I would have pretended to have used her hardcore style and reduce her ass to tears and stage it up. Rather Fake shit to help with this debt. Anyways, there's a good chance that this played a role in her retreating. Also, there's a good chance that me being Worried about her and Liking her made her retreat because she had only wanted NSA. There's also a good chance she retreated because I was digging for the truth as well.

Hell, it's probably a combination of all three things.

I do know this, that while my intentions were rather layered in this affair. I violated my Integrity in the process. I was clearly less than honest with this "K" character. I suspect this came back and bit me in the ass. Keep in mind, I also have doubts as to if he was ever was real. If it was not her which I had been dealing with all along. This "k" Character changed his story with me in mid stream.

All the way around... everybody involved Violated their own Integrity (including me). This is EPIC!

This whole affair degenerated into one big bullshit game of mindfucks and crafty bullshit. It makes me wonder what would have happened, if I had not ever responded that that other CL AD??

Anyways, the girl I had talked to on the phone... was not judgmental and rather understanding about consensual BDSM D/s and consensual forced sex and rape play. She understood the differences between this kind of shit... compared to RAPE the real deal with disregard for limits. Along with my concern over a sort of Prostitution for debt. This girl told me she did it because of a mutual interest by all parties involved. I did not provide this "k" any pictures of things! LOL

Hell, I was busy enjoying things with her sanely and she was way way more into things when she discovered it was me. Up until that point this Girl was like a TPE Mannequin slave girl. Extremely tense.

So this was a bit of mind fuck for and I think all parties involved.

"k" had no concept of aftercare and even sub-drop. Which were issues I had talked about with him. I told him that if I brought her ass down to tears and got all intense with her...like that. That I insisted upon AFTERCARE that was part of my Terms and conditions. He was rather clueless about this crap.


In all honestly "k" was probably some acquaintance of her's attempting to set up a rape scene in an extremely stupid and amateurish manner. Not realizing the implications of this kind of Edge Play involved. That he was wanting to get his ROCKS off over this happening to her ass.

This is what I tend to believe more the case now. So yeah...

I should have left shit the Hell alone and not violated my own integrity, along with exposing myself to this madness as well. If I could rewind things. I'd be making a phone call. Letting her know that this "k" was setting up a dangerous scene and situation.. that she'd better rethink what the fuck she had agreed to. That he was dumbass and that this was a poor way of going about things. Instead, I played along and into this bullshit. Like I said, I violated my own integrity here.

I've never been involved in such a crazy setup of a rape scene before. Sure, I knew she was down for it...

I don't know what to make of things. Too many lies all the way around for anybody to trust anybody. Which without Trust. Everything is tanked up and gone to Hell in a handbasket.

I don't trust her nor "k". I know "k" does not trust me and that she does not trust "k"... I think this whole deal left everybody pissing themselves over this level of all around stupidity.

This is a literal intense mess...and I'm reminded of the fact why "Edge Play" is "Edge Play".

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RE: Doing the right thing... - 6/8/2013 11:07:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

I just got off the phone with a Girl at the National Sexual Assault Hotline!! It was an intense conversation... Yes tell her that I'm into BDSM and kinky stuff and explain to her all this madness.

The girl brought up a good point, that there's a good chance that these Guys are doing the same things with other women!!
That this is not right. So, what I've embarked upon make spare other women of the same treatment and use.

I need to contact the main office during business hours for somebody which can be of more assistance tomorrow,
and I'm also going to waive my right to keeping this confidential.. where they are free to share this information
and my interaction with authorities. I want a high degree of transparency to exist. However, I'm going to gowith the
advice that the National Sexual Assault Online is going to provide.



Don't go spouting off about integrity. If you truly had any doubts this wasn't all fictional wank bullshit you would have called the police and reported a possible crime.

After 11 pages of this, let's hope everyone has their waders on. It's deep in here.

< Message edited by DomMeinCT -- 6/8/2013 11:08:00 AM >


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RE: Doing the right thing... - 6/8/2013 11:21:11 AM   
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Please don't refer to a child as "it." It's rude. Use him or her.


In the context she used it, I really dont have a problem with the usage.

Hell, I have called my son "it" to his face... of course, he turns around and calls me bitch.. so we are all even...lmao.


That's fine that you don't have a problem with it. I do have a problem with it.

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RE: Doing the right thing... - 6/8/2013 4:26:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DomMeinCT

Post #20:

quote:

ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

I just got off the phone with a Girl at the National Sexual Assault Hotline!! It was an intense conversation... Yes tell her that I'm into BDSM and kinky stuff and explain to her all this madness.

The girl brought up a good point, that there's a good chance that these Guys are doing the same things with other women!!
That this is not right. So, what I've embarked upon make spare other women of the same treatment and use.

I need to contact the main office during business hours for somebody which can be of more assistance tomorrow,
and I'm also going to waive my right to keeping this confidential.. where they are free to share this information
and my interaction with authorities. I want a high degree of transparency to exist. However, I'm going to gowith the
advice that the National Sexual Assault Online is going to provide.



Don't go spouting off about integrity. If you truly had any doubts this wasn't all fictional wank bullshit you would have called the police and reported a possible crime.

After 11 pages of this, let's hope everyone has their waders on. It's deep in here.


Exactly, so I did not do this. I did not call the police. Yes, I did, do and still have my doubts. In regards to Integrity...I did violate my own integrity... I need to stand solid on at least this aspect of things.

Dude, it's a bitch being torn between doubts in either direction.



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RE: Doing the right thing... - 6/8/2013 6:00:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Didnt your dick get you in trouble enough?


Tazzy,

What's funny is a close female sub friend of mine which I've known for years.
Ended up hitting the road to come to see me and hookup. She called me when
I was in the middle of work... letting me know she had already hit the road.

So yeah, last night was an amazing great time. It was a bit of a mutual stress
relief. She really wanted to help take my mind off all this crap. At least try to.

Needlessly to say, I didn't have a damn problem keeping up!! Unlike the Stage
Rape scene and my hookup with this Girl. Where I swore I was starting to
wonder if I need Viagra or something.

The trust and comfort levels radically different here.

Though I was quick to ice down her calling me "Daddy" which I'm not to crazy
about letting anybody into that reserved headspace. That requires a little more
and deeper meaning for me.

However, yeah my dick is off getting me into perhaps more trouble. I'm basically
going to turn into a Male Whore of sorts with NSA for awhile... cause I give up on
finding anybody Sane for an actual lifestyle relationship at the moment.

I know some of you guys have amazing and wonderful relationships. Me, I'm
just a single Dude and need to get my FIX. NSA will fill part of this void but not
the whole void.

At least this weekend, it was with somebody that I trust and trusts me. FWB
kinky Hookup Booty call. She just went through something herself. So yeah..
what the Hell.

The rate I was going at things, I was turning into a BDSM virgin all over again.
While trying to find the right girl. Pfffffffffffffftttt..

So, yeah I've gone of the edge of my normal. More back to my younger days
and ways of things. Hopefully something will come along and work out.

I'm on the playing field again. I even got to enjoy one activity I like to top
from the bottom one last night. It's been years since I had anybody take my
own flogger to my back! Seriously that Felt AMAZING! WAY WAY WAY Better
than back massage. Well it's a bit on par with that for me anyways. So Yeah
I used her like a wonderful dirty little slut too.

I was amazed at how in tune she was with shit, in terms of me having my way
and being in control of things. She tried a couple of times to top me, and quickly
backed off from it. Did not take much for me to express back off or for her to
be a quick read of my own reactions... I'm simply not into being topped.

It was funny when she was flogging me... I had to tell her to alternate the spots
she was hitting me with around a little more. You really don't want to place a lot
of strikes in one single location for too long. Rather move around the area, and
build up on the intensity. LOL Anyways, she kept asking me about her doing More.
Expressing how she did not really want to hurt me. Plus, I was reaching some
thresholds. LOL.. had to get up and check myself out in the Hotel Room Mirror!!
OMG, I can't believe the fucking welts and marks she had left on my back! Another
5-10 more minutes of this and I would have been bleeding with cuts and shit. LOL

It really did not bother me, again it was like an amazing back massage for me.
She respected what was going on, talked and communicated... and did not treat me
like I was some bitch BOI... cause that would have been a train wreck moment if she
had tried to be on top like that.

It was nice to toss her the flogger, and lay down on the bed and tell her to have at it.
That I wanted this. Without any mental hang ups.

Mind you, I loved and got off on the None stop blow job the whole time I watched
the new Episode of Continuum on SyF, while knocking off a beer at the same time.

All and All, it meant a lot to me for somebody to get into their car and make this
trip to come please me and help take my mind off from this bullshit experience.







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RE: Doing the right thing... - 6/8/2013 6:09:06 PM   
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Dude, you STILL think K is real???

Really??? STILL???? OMG. Are you that far gone off the deep end??? Oh wait...yes, yes you are.


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RE: Doing the right thing... - 6/8/2013 8:03:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder
Dude, you STILL think K is real???
Really??? STILL???? OMG. Are you that far gone off the deep end??? Oh wait...yes, yes you are.


I don't know if "K" is or is not truly real. I believe "k" was not honest in regards to who and what he was. I think he was a friend of hers which was bullshitting me to set things up. I don't believe a damn thing about this so called debt and 80% if the things he said to me. That's the most credence I'll give to this "k" character.

I do know this much, I did not set up a situation where she would feel safe in being honest with me. I had assumed too much as either being real or not. This situation took a bad spin. Which was really real. I know I got played, and I did my share of playing too.

I did get an email from her a couple days ago, which made me back and up and take a few things into consideration which I had not been. I'm not looking to salvage shit from this. However, I do plan on expressing a few things in a sanely objective logical letter. To at least put her mind at ease. Though, I am tempted to leave her ass in a state of suspense. I'm simply not going to let it roll like that for the end.

I had enough of this madness already. I'm calm about shit now. I'll know exactly how to deal with any future similar situations which might arise... or rather what I'm not going to do. (Lesson learned).

Although there is/was a repeating pattern involved. Can't repeat the same pattern expecting different results. The context of that advice, sort of had some added clarity over morning coffee this morning while talking with a good friend in person. I think I'm onto what I've been trying to repeat and Why. Call it a form of Mental S&M trying to re-experience a certain thing from the past. I can't ignore my own actions or even lack of actions. Like why I did or did not do certain things differently.

I know that I myself was not out to cause anybody any true harm. So, in other regards... I may or may not just be an asshole. I think it all depends upon who I get mixed up with.

I want something a little more sane and healthy though, for NSA or even relationship material. This was soooooooooo clearly not it. Not a good combination for me to be in. (NEXT)...



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RE: Doing the right thing... - 6/8/2013 10:52:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

However, I do plan on expressing a few things in a sanely objective logical letter.



You aren't capable of writing anything sane or objective at this point. Logic has also left the building.

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RE: Doing the right thing... - 6/9/2013 2:46:40 PM   
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dude...you must have some form of mental masochism.

whywhywhy are you still writing her? I thought you said you were walking away. You are as far away from walking away that you may as well be married to her!

You really need to commit yourself NOW or I hope someone commits you soon out of concern. You really need it because right now, you are NOT right. Not even a little bit.


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RE: Doing the right thing... - 6/10/2013 1:46:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

dude...you must have some form of mental masochism.

whywhywhy are you still writing her? I thought you said you were walking away. You are as far away from walking away that you may as well be married to her!

You really need to commit yourself NOW or I hope someone commits you soon out of concern. You really need it because right now, you are NOT right. Not even a little bit.



Relax, I'm off this kick.






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RE: Doing the right thing... - 6/10/2013 7:24:45 PM   
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really? I guess we'll see with your next post.

One can only hope.


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RE: Doing the right thing... - 6/10/2013 8:32:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder
really? I guess we'll see with your next post.
One can only hope.


I'm off this kick, seriously it's all figured out.
It was and has been under my nose this whole time.
It's actually extremely logical and all the pieces of the puzzle fall into place.
No big deal now. I see exactly WTF happened and even understand it.
It's all rather butt stupid.



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