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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/7/2013 7:05:23 AM

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I think folks get annoyed when they've been deliberately misled about the type of relationship someone wants...someone with whom they've started to interact. Two people start talking, only for one to later find out the other only wants online, or is married, or charges them when the profile and initial conversations indicate nothing of the sort.

That's the nature of deception that upsets people the most I would say. That's what I'd consider a fake: a fundamental misrepresentation about who you are and what you want/what you're offering. I don't see any need for outrage when people just lay their cards on the table. If you can't handle the truth just take your ball and go home.

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/7/2013 7:16:50 AM

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Lashing out in frustration? Thinking everyone else gives a shit about what they personally consider fake and real? Not really sure, but some worry way too damned much about stupid crap (like fakes) that doesn't really mean much in the grand scheme of things. The ones I personally find highly entertaining are the ones who think that the biggest insult they can levy against someone is the dreaded...dun dun DUN..."you're just a fake and not a weal <fill in the role>" when that someone literally owns them discussion-wise in a forum exchange

OR the :

Him: on your kneels bitch

Me: No thanks

Him: Well you're fat and no one would want to fuck you anyway

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/7/2013 7:25:48 AM

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I'm with you.

I don't really consider anyone as fake. Liars or tricksters, maybe. For all I know, tricking others is their kink.
I'd treat them as someone who doesn't share the same interest, just like anything else.

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/7/2013 7:31:48 AM

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The fake profiles that bother me are:

The current crop from xxx.nl
A profile in my state (IL) but is 1,000 miles away.
A profile with an e-mail address and/or phone number.
A profile with a link to another site, typically a PPV web cam.
A US profile with the sob-story of her Dom being dead and she is stuck in a foreign country (often Ghana).

As for Fin Dommes, IMHO they are typically too stupid/lazy to hold a real job or too ugly for the pole so they come here and beg for money. Their parents must beam with pride.

While it would be VERY easy (even for a "volunteer" staff) to weed these out, the bottom line is the bottom line. Ad rates are based on membership numbers and all these 1/2-assed profiles help to inflate that number. All you can do is block/hide the profiles you don't like and move on.

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/7/2013 9:12:12 AM

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Nobody likes being scammed. And there are a lot of people who just want to make money and don't care about ethics.

However, mostly the ones screaming that we're all fake are idiots without social skills who expect to be able to dip their dicks into the girl of their dreams despite being 30 years older than what she's looking for.

After all, they signed up. Aren't they owed an available female delivered immediately to their inbox without being someone that anyone else would want to be with?

Nobody is owed anything.

But I have been approached by idiots pledging devotion to me, despite not knowing me from Adam. That's always a good sign. Then, after we've been chatting either here or on yahoo, the nonsense starts where they want me to tell them all the evil things I am going to do to them, SWEAR they want to meet, but don't.

It's not just the men that are complaining, btw.

Personally, it's my time *I* care about, and the lifestyle is not about getting your genitals serviced.

The thought of dealing with anyone in their 20s gives me a headache. I'm too old for them, and I know it.

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/7/2013 9:15:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Is this in relations to findomme again? What qualifies as a "fake" ?

The 20 or 30 profiles that have popped up in the last few days that have this nonsense, for one...

Hey.. I love to show off my body! I think its perfect LOL. I can't show my cam in public or I'll lose my job so I keep them in my room on (website) Its free to register so come see my body. Goto (website)(copy and paste it into your browser's address bar)

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/7/2013 9:22:55 AM

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir

OR the :

Him: on your kneels bitch

Me: No thanks

Him: Well you're fat and no one would want to fuck you anyway

I've always found the replies like that to be funny: because it means that they're willing to throw their own standards out the window if there's a possibility of getting laid. It really shows a lack of integrity beyond the obvious drivel.

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/7/2013 12:38:42 PM

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The moment I signed onto this service I knew that most of the profiles were going to be fake. And yes, at first I dogpiled on some of them (with a few notable others), until I realized it didn't solve a damn thing. And I'm with stef, K, and others who have said that the biggest complainers are the ones who stumble on this site with stars in their eyes that they're going to hook up immediately with some hot, young, wild, and kinky playmate (of either gender) and get bent out of shape when they discover it's actually harder to do than in a vanilla setting. (Unless you've got mucho dinero to blow)

And there are some who fake a profile because it gets them off, plain and simple. It IS their fetish to pretend to be a (insert gender/orientation/title/kink here), and communicate as such. Yeah, it's a PITA for someone who thinks they're making a connection with Mistress So-and-So or slavewhatever12345, thinking they're somebody else when they're really a 50 year old shut-in's personal Second Life fantasy.

Do you discriminate against these people? We're not supposed to come down on anyone else's fetish here, and all they have to do is list "Role Play" on the checklist and they're covered. If they don't ask for money, is what they're doing "wrong"? Deceptive, yes, but we're all supposed to be grownups here, and let's face it, our pastime is noted for not being the fuzzy-wuzziest of personal interests. I'm not outraged, nor even annoyed anymore. If anything, they're another source of amusement for me.

The problem is and shall always be (here and on any other adult-oriented site) guys (and gals) who try to take advantage of a window of opportunity in their normal lives for some strange tail, and in an age of instant gratification, they go apoplectic when their Free Fetish Delivery System™ doesn't magically appear outside their door in thirty minutes or less. A oversimplification, yes, but it's how I see it.

I'm going to copy this response and save it for the next thread about "fakes". Save me some typing...

< Message edited by MasterCaneman -- 6/7/2013 12:40:11 PM >

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/7/2013 2:20:34 PM

Kaliko

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Every so often (like three or four times a week), someone posts a diatribe against the fake profiles.

Why?

I'm a straight Dom male. That means that I'm suited only for straight or bi sub or switch women. They either live here or are willing to move here.

That rules out maybe 95%-99% of the women on collarme.

Why is it that people have no objection to the people with wrong gender, orientation, side of the kneel, geographic location, etc., but get bent out of shape about the criterion of them being real? That's nothing but another selection category.

Whether someone is real or not isn't as concerning to me as whether they could pick up on a bit of understated wit.

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/7/2013 2:28:42 PM

SwitchNSpanky

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I'm not heretofore hook up. So I can't speak from experience as far as cruising thru profiles and searching for the right "one". I've already found the right one for me.

That said. I can imagine that being deceived by a profile would be frustrating. And it sounds like it happens "a lot" here. Instead of burdening the mods with veting new members. Why not a "name and shame" section on here.

Then members could post about their negative experiences with these "fake" members. Not sure how to prevent childish "hate posts". But it would be fun to read posts like this..."so there I was... Tied to the bed.. When she took of her pants, and that's when I realized she was really a Dude!! And that's when I knew this night was gonna suck!".

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/7/2013 2:33:21 PM

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Everyone is fake on the internet, after all.

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/7/2013 3:54:14 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman

... all they have to do is list "Role Play" on the checklist and they're covered.

Even if this wasn't intended to be funny, it was!

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/7/2013 4:27:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: LittleMsMary

I guess I've never really understood people who can get that wrapped up in profiles of people that they've had little to no interaction with. My guess is the reaction comes from people who thought they had stumbled on a fantasy world of real life BDSM porn, and get angry when this "world" ends up being a lot like the vanilla one in many ways. You still have to sort through a lot of people that don't match up with your interests, to find those that do. I don't like the obvious scams any more than anyone else, but I also don't spend any time/energy/effort worrying or thinking about it.

I don't worry about 'fakes' however, & for what reason they're defined, I just find duplicity, whether here, or anywhere else for that matter, slightly depressing.

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/8/2013 12:05:00 AM

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It's cause ya can't smack 'em.

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/8/2013 4:35:01 AM

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I don't want to smack anyone, I'm a submissive

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/8/2013 4:49:44 AM

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes?

For the exact same reason some losers call a gal a dyke cunt when she turns down his advances at the local watering hole

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/8/2013 9:30:17 AM

MasterCaneman

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It was, and what I consider to be a truism as well.

Anybody who's into RPGs (gamers, not anti-tank weapons) can tell you that a large part of the enjoyment is building their character. Second Life and the umpteen other MMPORGs bear this out, and it can be considered a logical extension of the pursuit that lead people to online dating sites. BDSM is a natural attraction because of the fantasy element to the activities, so an RP'er can have a field day in here.

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/8/2013 9:36:16 AM

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I am curious why so many here think that "fake" equals not interested.

Most profiles of women on this site are not actual women looking for anything. Most are fronts for porn sites or scams.

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/8/2013 10:56:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: garyFLR

I don't want to smack anyone, I'm a submissive .

I'm a slave and there have been times I really want to smack someone. Hard. With a baseball bat.

Guess that makes me a fake slave

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RE: Why the outrage against fakes? - 6/8/2013 10:59:00 AM

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ORIGINAL: myotherself

quote:

ORIGINAL: garyFLR

I don't want to smack anyone, I'm a submissive .

I'm a slave and there have been times I really want to smack someone. Hard. With a baseball bat.

Guess that makes me a fake slave

How much are dues? I wanna join

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