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MrBuild -> Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 10:16:13 AM)

I have read so many journal entries / forum posts on CM from female subs complaining about fake male Doms. I have no interest in demeaning the truthfulness or significance of their experiences. However I do feel compelled to post about cyber subs masquerading as a sub in search of a real life Dom.

If a cyber D/S experience meets your needs that’s fine. There is nothing wrong with that. I am sure there are plenty of cyber Doms who can accommodate you. What’s senseless is why these cyber subs pretend to be in search of a real life D/S dynamic only to achieve an instant messenger scene.

If you are referring to me as Master within the first 2 minutes of an IM conversation you are either a cyber-sub pretending or your submission is of so little value you are willing to give it away as opposed to having your perspective Master earn it. Either way a true Dom with something to offer in search of a true sub with something to offer is not going to be interested.

There is nothing more valuable then a woman's submission. However I don't think I could value it without having gone through the process of earning it.



DesFIP -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 10:27:44 AM)

With that said, a lot of newbies, just coming to feel comfortable with their desires, do find that trying this out in online to be a safer way to explore and learn. Who is to say they are wrong for wanting to get into the water a little at a time instead of throwing themselves in the deep end not knowing if they'll be able to swim?

If they want something different than you, that just means you aren't compatible.

But wanting someone to meet you in real life immediately means you probably wouldn't be a good partner for someone new to this.



Rawni -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 10:31:49 AM)

I'd like to suggest that you actually know a bit about the forum in which you would post something like that. To actually be thorough, and assure that what you have to say has some merit there. How many cyber subs will you find on the forums? Check it out dude... then you may see why your post was rather off for where you are.



TieMeInKnottss -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 10:34:19 AM)

Hey I always stated clearly that I was only interested in real-time (NO online or cyber) doms and STILL got email from doms around the world who wished to own me! Reading seems to NOT be on the "likes" list of the majority of those who are looking.



kalikshama -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 10:39:59 AM)

Ya, I said ***local guys only*** and that didn't stop out of state or country emails.



tazzygirl -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 10:51:11 AM)

Thats cus you ladies are so hot they could not resist themselves.

Turn down the thermostats!

[8D]



Charles6682 -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 11:25:38 AM)

I'm not into cyber myself but I can see where a new person may benefit from it. Plus consider people who live in far away lands where local Munches and Party Plays aren't even an option. I've talked to male subs from areas where BDSM is not common,if not downright illegal. Especially for male submissives who live in area's where Women have no rights. I've had some of the these subs send me emails before. The internet for many, is their only way into this very unique world.



OrionTheWolf -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 11:59:31 AM)

My girl made extra money for a short time being a cyber sub, that even included SMS texting throughout the day. Her clients were usually too busy to have the time needed to put into it, and for many of them it was just a role playing escape. I look at those that don't pay for it or charge, and believe it is often just another entertaining distraction for them. It was also wish fulfillment because the longer she knew them, the more she knew they really didn't have much dominance in them.



tsatske -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 12:42:57 PM)

Nice photo of you and your sub. Beautiful.

What you are looking for (in your profile) is called a unicorn for a good reason. As hard a time as subs and Doms have finding a good match, you will have a harder time, because you are looking for a third. Just as women have to wade through those that Don't read their profile or offer what they are seeking, you will have to wade through a lot of chaff, as well. Good luck in your search



SwitchNSpanky -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 12:54:19 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrBuild

I have read so many journal entries / forum posts on CM from female subs complaining about fake male Doms. I have no interest in demeaning the truthfulness or significance of their experiences. However I do feel compelled to post about cyber subs masquerading as a sub in search of a real life Dom.

If a cyber D/S experience meets your needs that’s fine. There is nothing wrong with that. I am sure there are plenty of cyber Doms who can accommodate you. What’s senseless is why these cyber subs pretend to be in search of a real life D/S dynamic only to achieve an instant messenger scene.

If you are referring to me as Master within the first 2 minutes of an IM conversation you are either a cyber-sub pretending or your submission is of so little value you are willing to give it away as opposed to having your perspective Master earn it. Either way a true Dom with something to offer in search of a true sub with something to offer is not going to be interested.

There is nothing more valuable then a woman's submission. However I don't think I could value it without having gone through the process of earning it.



I have not read past the OP post. Yet I have to agree with and suppoort the op. just bravo.



SwitchNSpanky -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 1:00:50 PM)

Y'all need to read the ops poSt again. Then. Pretend he is a chick. Answer both Fictitious poasts on your notepad. Go back after you do whatever it is that will give you perspective. Then. Reply. Or reply again. As the case may be...



lizi -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 1:06:34 PM)

I wonder if all of these cyber subs you're running into that claim to be female are indeed women. They could also be married and looking for fantasy on the side, doesn't mean they're fake. Just different in the type of relationship that they're looking for. If it gets them hot and bothered to have some guy text them about their panties while they're cooking dinner for the family then so be it. Sounds incredibly boring to me, but they're not any faker than I am in my preference for someone to put his hands on me. I mean some people drink lite beer ya know?

Btw Tsatske, 'his' picture is very popular around the internet on other sites.



Rawni -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 1:10:15 PM)

Whether the original post came from a male or female, I saw a basic comment, rather deadened, coming off as an expression of venting or telling people how it ought to be in his opinion. My mind quickly went to... the poster is frustrated and has had this experience as many times as it took to come vent about it. I would see it this way no matter who posted it.

It was as if he and could have been a she, was talking to those cyber submissives, for which, there aren't so many of them on the forums and preaching/teaching/venting about the other side of the site here on the forums isn't as fruitful as a post in your journal would be. If in fact it was fruitful there. [:D]



DesFIP -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 1:33:15 PM)

I thought we were remarkably gentle considering he spouts what's true and what isn't.

OP, coming into a group of people who don't know you and telling them that the only person who does it right is you, is rude. You might be surprised as to how little anyone here needs to be spoonfed what to do.



lizi -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 2:10:54 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SwitchNSpanky

Y'all need to read the ops poSt again. Then. Pretend he is a chick. Answer both Fictitious poasts on your notepad. Go back after you do whatever it is that will give you perspective. Then. Reply. Or reply again. As the case may be...


Believe it or not, I'd have said nothing different to a woman poster. Thinking that the people in the group that you're sifting through that do things differently than you do are fake is immature kind of silly no matter if you are a man or a woman.



Rawni -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 2:14:37 PM)

[:D] So we have a dominant that claims a dominant should earn his place as dominant for values sake, that uses a stolen picture and tells it how it should be to people that have varied experiences and takes it upon himself to use this forum format to vent?

That's impressive. [:D]



Kaliko -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 2:39:31 PM)

Or....he was just starting a conversation.



angelikaJ -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 2:50:48 PM)

If you are referring to me as Master within the first 2 minutes of an IM conversation you are either a cyber-sub pretending or your submission is of so little value you are willing to give it away as opposed to having your perspective Master earn it. Either way a true Dom with something to offer in search of a true sub with something to offer is not going to be interested.

Or there is a 3rd possibility: the woman in question is very inexperienced and is doing it because she either does not know it is okay to be herself, or was previously reamed out by a "Master" who told her she should defer to him and how she should behave with/address him.

[My] Master would never refer to Himself as a "true Dom".
Nor would I refer to myself as a "true sub/slave".
What we are is true to ourselves and true to each other.

So while I can appreciate your opinion for what it is, in my opinion, it is a little shortsighted and narrow in it's scope.



OsideGirl -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 2:55:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

If you are referring to me as Master within the first 2 minutes of an IM conversation you are either a cyber-sub pretending or your submission is of so little value you are willing to give it away as opposed to having your perspective Master earn it. Either way a true Dom with something to offer in search of a true sub with something to offer is not going to be interested.

Or there is a 3rd possibility: the woman in question is very inexperienced and is doing it because she either does not know it is okay to be herself, or was previously reamed out by a "Master" who told her she should defer to him and how she should behave with/address him.


I was going to say that same exact thing.

And personally, I think guys that refer to themselves as "true Doms" aren't really Doms. They're just chest thumpers trying to convince everyone else how "Domly" they are.



Rawni -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 3:02:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kaliko

Or....he was just starting a conversation.


Maybe. However, he isn't conversing. Maybe he wanted the conversation to go the way he wanted it to go, since he isn't here conversing. [:D] Or... maybe we were mean to him.



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